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Topic: RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Topic: RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

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UpSan Bobcat
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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/21/2011 8:11:46 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

OUVan wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Oxford Tech, for one. And that's a crying shame.

They play a harder schedule to be sure but that doesn't make it better. Getting walloped on the road doesn't do your players any good and it kills any kind of interest your fans have in the season. That kind of schedule is fine if you have the team to compete in it but they never do.

I would suggest you look at the Miami results befor eyou start talking about getting walloped on the road. Looks to me like that really only happened at New Mexico. 2 point loss to Kentucky in Lexington-a walloping?

They got hammered at Duke, Ohio State and Kansas this past season. If you play enough of those, you're bound to make one relatively close, but do you really want to absorb than many losses every season?

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/21/2011 10:44:20 PM

One could make the argument that they're battle-tested and play a high level of basketball early in conference play. But scheduling like that and getting whooped (UC and SDSU each crushed Miami at Millett last season) puts the perception in fans' minds that they're not a team worth cheering for. Even a win at home against Xavier wasn't enough to keep the fans around in the short term. I'll take what our program has over what Miami has any day of the week.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/21/2011 10:55:21 PM

shabamon wrote:

Totally forgot about that San Diego State game! Could you imagine a top 10 team in the Convo? That would be amazing to see. Miami, on the other hand, probably had 4k tops for that game!!

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/21/2011 11:00:21 PM

Aren't we edging to the classic split on this board: those who want BIGNAMES in Convo and for our roadies for the attraction vs. those who fear the damage it would do to the program because those bignames would eat us up.

Around that, didn't we lose twice to redhawk last year (my memory's weak here). What does that say about scheduling up or not?

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/22/2011 9:04:55 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Huh?

@Duke -34
@tOA&M -21
@Dayton -12
@Wright St -15
@Belmont -11
@Kansas -27

Last Edited: 7/22/2011 9:19:19 AM by OUVan

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:05:19 AM

Miami occasionally keeps it interesting, but that's a lot of blowouts.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/22/2011 10:11:22 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I think coaches need to schedule to the team they have. Charlie schedules the same every year. If he has the horses then by all means take on a tougher schedule but he hasn't had a team that could handle a gauntlet schedule since 2005. Fiami also has an advantage in that they have a bunch of schools right down the road that they have long standing series with. We have Marshall.

But on a side note, I think if you have the chance to schedule Duke you do it no matter how tough the rest of your schedule is.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/22/2011 2:02:08 PM

OUVan wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Huh?

@Duke -34
@tOA&M -21
@Dayton -12
@Wright St -15
@Belmont -11
@Kansas -27

Obviously my comment was based on the 2009-2010 schedule that was in the thread, not last year. Dah. Read the context please.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/23/2011 1:43:54 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Opinions on basketball scheduling actually are quite varied. With the new MAC schedule home game mandates the program is moving toward buying home games against lessor foes. Going back to the Hunter years, at least 2 if not 3 BCS programs were on the schedule and games against the A10 (back when it was as good as the Big East) were quite regular. This is back when they played 8 non-conference games instead of 14. The Larry Hunter era had the program playing higher profile basketball than his successors.

1997-98 Non-con games (8): St. Bonaventure, West Virginia, Rhode Island, Kentucky
1998-99 Non-con games (8): Syracuse, Rhode Island, West Virginia, George Washington
1999-00 Non-con games (12): George Washington, Houston, Iowa, West Virginia, Gonzaga, Bradley
2000-01 Non-con games (9): Virginia, Wisconsin, Duquense, West Virginia, Arizona State
2001-02 Non-con games (9): Duquense, DePaul, Wisconsin, St. Bonaventure, North Carolina
2002-03 Non-con games (9): Providence, DePaul, Wisconsin, St. Bonaventure, Kentucky, Virginia
2003-04 Non-con games (11): DePaul, Wisconsin, Duquense, Butler
2004-05 Non-con games (9): Butler, Duquense, Florida
2005-06 Non-con games (9): Rhode Island, Cincinnati, Kentucky
2006-07 Non-con games (14): Marshall, St. Bonaventure, Louisville, St. Joe, Rhode Island, Cincinnati
2007-08 Non-con games (16): Temple, St. Bonaventure, Maryland, Kansas, St. John's, St. Mary's, George M.
2008-09 Non-con games (14): George Mason, Tulsa, Louisville, Xavier, Marshall
2009-10 Non-con games (17): Marshall, Tulsa, Illinois State, Pittsburgh,Georgetown,Tennessee
2010-11 Non-con games (17): Kansas, Marshall, Illinois State, St. Bonaventure, Temple

Each of the last 3 seasons have only featured 1 BCS school on the schedule. In the Larry Hunter era the program played 2-3 BCS programs a year. Based on the length of the non-conference today the program should be playing 4-5 BCS schools and not 1 a year. Generally some of the worst SOS years have been since the schedule was pared down (2009-10 numbers were helped by Georgetown and Tenn games).

2010-11 SOS (#164)
2009-10 SOS (#101)
2008-09 SOS (#165)
2007-08 SOS (#128)
2006-07 SOS (#150)
2005-06 SOS (#171)
2004-05 SOS (#136)
2003-04 SOS (#161)
2002-03 SOS (#113)
2001-02 SOS (#184)
2000-01 SOS (#155)
1999-00 SOS (#109)
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1998-97 SOS (#122)

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/23/2011 2:55:05 PM

This is certainly true to a point, but the MAC has rated worse and worse, so the conference part of the schedule also has had a lowering effect on the strength of schedule rating.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/24/2011 9:23:34 PM

Miami has NEVER drawn well at home. Maybe when Wally was there in his last few years. They don't care in Oxford. Not in football or hoops, unless they have a Trent or Wally type and they are being hyped on a national scale. Every time we played them in the late 70's at Millet the place was empty, and they had good teams coming off NCAA wins and we are their "arch rival". I attended a game there against us during Wally's Jr year and it was barely half full. So don't compare their situation with ours.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/25/2011 9:57:55 PM

I think we had this discussion on another thread. I attended two sellout games at Miami (back when Millett's capacity was about 10,000)...one during the Gary Trent years; another a few years after that. But I'll admit that was the exception rather than the rule.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/25/2011 10:24:43 PM

Here is Marietta College's article on playing the Bobcats this year...some nice quotes from players and coach.

http://news2.marietta.edu/node/1356

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/27/2011 10:15:44 PM

MariettaCatFanatic wrote:

Here is Marietta College's article on playing the Bobcats this year...some nice quotes from players and coach.

http://news2.marietta.edu/node/1356

This is the Super Bowl for Marietta. We had best not take this one too lightly.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/28/2011 9:50:10 PM

Thanks for posting. I think as one reads this article you get the sense that the whole town of Marietta will be paying attention to this game and that many will make the trek to Athens. Show them a good time and some will come back for other Ohio games. This is one way to begin to build fan following in other parts of Southeastern Ohio. I remember very vividly years ago -- in the Snyder Era -- talking to some fans at halftime of a game at the Convo. These fans had come from Marietta, and they told me they made the trip for as many games as possible because they thought we had such a good program. They were not alumni and had no other direct connection with OU, other than they liked our brand of basketball. I've often wondered in recent years how many of this type of "regional fan" we still have. My guess is not many. This game will help us re-acquaint these fans (or their sons and daughters) with the excitement of Ohio basketball. My hat's off to Jim Schaus and John Groce for "thinking out of the box" on this one.

Last Edited: 7/28/2011 9:58:05 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 7/28/2011 10:07:46 PM

Funny how priorities change. When I was an Ohio student I never missed a home game in hoops. And in FB, in four years, I only attended one game: a victory over Marshall in 1987 in a 1-10, "Heave Cleave" era game.

Now, as long as we are somewhat RPI competitive in totality, I could care less who we play at home in hoops. I would never travel to Athens just for a hoops contest because it's only 1:45 on the court and nothing else.

However I make it to several FB games in ATH because it is a different vibe/pregame/weather/etc.

Want me to travel to support hoops, you're more likely to get me to go to an exotic off season destination for a roadie than to hit Athens. Sorry homies.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/6/2011 1:01:33 PM

Rumor mill starting to swirl about the OOC schedule a little more. My "in the know" buddy said that two of our other home games are...

North Carolina A&T and Morgan State

Are we joining the MEAC?

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/6/2011 4:10:52 PM

Confirmed by Morgan State's website. They will visit the Convo December 3rd.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/6/2011 5:59:50 PM

We first have to beat teams like Robert Morris, St Bonaventure, Oakland, IUPUI, Marshall and others on our schedule. Until we prove we can handle these regional mid majors we aren't ready for bigger teams anywhere. Kanas? come on we lost to IUPUI, Oakland and Robert Morris at home last year. We also lost at 300 rpi CMU. We gotta stop laying some major eggs before we beef up the schedule. Groce needs to get the team to close games out they should win. We pissed away too many games last year,

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/7/2011 1:13:59 PM

oubobcatjohn wrote:

Agreed, but from a fan interest/attendance perspective, it would be nice to occasionally have a more exciting opponent at home. Piecing things together from the posts in this thread, it looks like this is our home slate:

Arkansas State (1)
Tennessee-Martin (0)
Marietta College (D3)
Kennesaw State (0)
North Carolina A&T (2)
Morgan State (1)
Robert Morris (7)
St. Bonaventure (5)

In parenthesis are the number of NCAA Tournament appearances for each of these teams. The only opponents that are even somewhat compelling are St. Bonaventure and Robert Morris. And that's stretching it....the Bonnies are still living off their name from the 70's.

If you're one of our fans in Columbus or Cincinnati, how many of these games are you traveling to Athens for?

Last Edited: 8/7/2011 1:20:36 PM by bobcat72

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/15/2011 6:04:52 PM

Shouldn't all this become official very soon? Like, this week?

I'm sure I am late on this, but at Wright State on Dec. 17th to return bracket buster from 2 years ago.

Last Edited: 8/15/2011 6:12:27 PM by ohio9704

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/15/2011 6:44:38 PM

ohio9704 wrote:

Shouldn't all this become official very soon? Like, this week?

I'm sure I am late on this, but at Wright State on Dec. 17th to return bracket buster from 2 years ago.

I've been checking ohiobobcats.com for a release... I'm getting impatient!

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/15/2011 9:53:36 PM

If that truly is the OOC home slate, I don't care if you're an optimist or whatever...that's just simply brutal. Just awful no matter how you wish to spin it. Honestly, Marietta College will be the highlight for me out of that bunch of teams and I don't care if they're the top of their league or not. I purchase an extra season ticket each year so I can bring one guest per game and it will be near impossible to get someone who's not a die-hard to want to attend any of those games--even for free.

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/15/2011 11:03:20 PM

If you're one of our fans in Columbus or Cincinnati, how many of these games are you traveling to Athens for?

"Fan" and 20 year season ticket holder - I'll be at all of 'em (unless business travel makes impossible - but typically try and plan ahead of games).....

Winning "more" home games seems to me to be the urgent priority, not as much who we schedule. Better schedule will follow from more success.

"Fans" "attending/travelling" to any/all games sure helps that!

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RE: Ohio OOC Schedule

Posted: 8/16/2011 8:45:09 AM

BobcatBigFish wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Totally forgot about that San Diego State game! Could you imagine a top 10 team in the Convo? That would be amazing to see. Miami, on the other hand, probably had 4k tops for that game!!

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