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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/5/2025 10:08:09 PM 
Done after last years poor season, and no public comment or press release.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/6/2025 2:03:02 PM 
Interesting, he is lucky on the timing being after last year because I don't think they could justify that after this season. The 22 season was as disappointing as they come, historically great returning players and we were painfully mediocre. Similar to the mens season this year but way worse. Then a freefall in 23, but could be seen as a rebuild and in 24 slight improvement (but still not good). The step back in 25 is a tough sell. I don't anticipate Ohio budges no matter what in the 3 years remaining on the deal, but he'll need to get some steady improvement these next 3 seasons to stick around.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/12/2025 3:18:37 PM 
Not a winning season in the last four years and two seasons they win 6 games. Yep that secret renewal was another great move by the administration.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/12/2025 6:13:12 PM 
My question is, say the department just renewed Boals in the same manner. How many would lose their mind.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/12/2025 10:41:44 PM 
BTC- the administration made a huge blunder but nobody will call them out on this ridiculous renewal of the womens BB coach. Chalk that up to one more screw up for this administration. This administration let the best football coach in the last fifty years leave this university.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/12/2025 11:25:50 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
This administration let the best football coach in the last fifty years leave this university.



Given your obsession with our ex-football coach who CHOSE to leave Ohio before the season was over, I hope you are at least in counseling/therapy. Better yet, follow UNCC football next year. BTW, this is a basketball thread.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 8:31:08 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
BTC- the administration made a huge blunder but nobody will call them out on this ridiculous renewal of the womens BB coach. Chalk that up to one more screw up for this administration. This administration let the best football coach in the last fifty years leave this university.


He chose to leave. Good luck to him. Get over it. She doesn't love you anymore.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 9:51:47 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
This administration let the best football coach in the last fifty years leave this university.


lol
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 11:21:36 AM 
mid70sbobcat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
This administration let the best football coach in the last fifty years leave this university.



Given your obsession with our ex-football coach who CHOSE to leave Ohio before the season was over, I hope you are at least in counseling/therapy. Better yet, follow UNCC football next year. BTW, this is a basketball thread.



Doesn't matter. I could post that the Tiddlywinks coach got an extension on Western State Tech's message board and 96 would find it and post this same BS he's been crying about since Albin left.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 4:25:45 PM 
You guys go ahead and be supportive of this administration on these contract blunders. Yep the womens coach gets rewarded for not having a winning season in four years. Two six win seasons thrown in. Chalk that up to a great renewal by this administration. Also throw in that the mens head coach is the highest paid coach in the league. Highest finish in his six seasons in Athens is a third seed. I’m guessing you boys like spending top dollar for the above performances. And while you are in the mood for spending more money, there is some beach front property in Coolville that you guys may want to buy. And as far as the ex football coach, his record was second to none in conference games the last four years. However, this wonderful administration couldn’t give him a secret renewal. All the above are facts that many of you continue to deny!

Last Edited: 3/13/2025 4:26:26 PM by Bobcat1996

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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 5:08:42 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
You guys go ahead and be supportive of this administration on these contract blunders. Yep the womens coach gets rewarded for not having a winning season in four years. Two six win seasons thrown in. Chalk that up to a great renewal by this administration. Also throw in that the mens head coach is the highest paid coach in the league. Highest finish in his six seasons in Athens is a third seed. I’m guessing you boys like spending top dollar for the above performances. And while you are in the mood for spending more money, there is some beach front property in Coolville that you guys may want to buy. And as far as the ex football coach, his record was second to none in conference games the last four years. However, this wonderful administration couldn’t give him a secret renewal. All the above are facts that many of you continue to deny!


we have the most ncaa wins in the MAC since he's been hired (Ohio 1. Everyone else: 0)

Read my lips: 1. Albin chose to leave. 2. He doesn't love you anymore. 3. Therapy.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 5:51:31 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
You guys go ahead and be supportive of this administration on these contract blunders. Yep the womens coach gets rewarded for not having a winning season in four years. Two six win seasons thrown in. Chalk that up to a great renewal by this administration. Also throw in that the mens head coach is the highest paid coach in the league. Highest finish in his six seasons in Athens is a third seed. I’m guessing you boys like spending top dollar for the above performances. And while you are in the mood for spending more money, there is some beach front property in Coolville that you guys may want to buy. And as far as the ex football coach, his record was second to none in conference games the last four years. However, this wonderful administration couldn’t give him a secret renewal. All the above are facts that many of you continue to deny!


You got all this saved on a Word document for pasting?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 8:54:20 PM 
DCF- I’m sure you and many others are elated with Boals. That is your choice. He finished as a fifth seed during Covid when all league teams were scrapping games left and right. Give him
Credit for getting a win in the tourney vs a UVA team who couldn’t play in ACC tourney because of Covid or practice the days before the first round game. If this university is paying Boals top rated salary in the league, you and others should expect much more than he is delivering. Of course you may work for the athletic director and agree with every blunder she makes. Akron, Kent and Toledo all have been better than Ohio during Boals six years in Athens. However you probably don’t care that Ohio is paying Boals top dollar. Last time I checked, coaches are paid for the entire season not for just three games in March. Keep congratulating the administration for these wonderful contract renewals. And read my lips,this administration had ample time to lock down a deal with the previous football coach. She failed miserably!! Yet she was more than happy to pay a womens coach who has been awful the last four seasons and happy to renew a mens basketball coach who finishes no better than a third seed yearly. Those are facts! Some of you can’t handle the truth.

Last Edited: 3/13/2025 8:59:04 PM by Bobcat1996

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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 10:20:46 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
DCF- I’m sure you and many others are elated with Boals. That is your choice. He finished as a fifth seed during Covid when all league teams were scrapping games left and right. Give him
Credit for getting a win in the tourney vs a UVA team who couldn’t play in ACC tourney because of Covid or practice the days before the first round game. If this university is paying Boals top rated salary in the league, you and others should expect much more than he is delivering. Of course you may work for the athletic director and agree with every blunder she makes. Akron, Kent and Toledo all have been better than Ohio during Boals six years in Athens. However you probably don’t care that Ohio is paying Boals top dollar. Last time I checked, coaches are paid for the entire season not for just three games in March. Keep congratulating the administration for these wonderful contract renewals. And read my lips,this administration had ample time to lock down a deal with the previous football coach. She failed miserably!! Yet she was more than happy to pay a womens coach who has been awful the last four seasons and happy to renew a mens basketball coach who finishes no better than a third seed yearly. Those are facts! Some of you can’t handle the truth.


First question for you. Are you related to Albin? Nephew? Cousin?

How often do you see a university decide during the season (football, basketball) to extend a coach's contract? Further, up above you state coaches are paid for the entire season, correct? Did our AD or university President explicitly tell Albin he was free to contact and negotiate with other football programs prior to the season concluding? I seriously doubt it. However, he chose to do just that. And it was he who chose to accept the UNCC job prior to the MACC. FACT. He chose to NOT wait until the conclusion of our season to see what the AD and President would offer. To me, that is rather foolish, unless he was wanting a change of scenery. To NOT wait for your employer of almost 20 years to make an offer after a great year is rather perplexing. He could have told the other programs that he would not make any decision until the conclusion of the season. That way he'd see what Ohio was willing to offer. You can blame the administration all you want. But the individual who apparently has caused you so much turmoil is Tim Albin. Facts matter, and he CHOSE to leave before the season concluded.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Women’s basketball coach gets extension
   Posted: 3/13/2025 11:42:06 PM 
mid70sbobcat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
DCF- I’m sure you and many others are elated with Boals. That is your choice. He finished as a fifth seed during Covid when all league teams were scrapping games left and right. Give him
Credit for getting a win in the tourney vs a UVA team who couldn’t play in ACC tourney because of Covid or practice the days before the first round game. If this university is paying Boals top rated salary in the league, you and others should expect much more than he is delivering. Of course you may work for the athletic director and agree with every blunder she makes. Akron, Kent and Toledo all have been better than Ohio during Boals six years in Athens. However you probably don’t care that Ohio is paying Boals top dollar. Last time I checked, coaches are paid for the entire season not for just three games in March. Keep congratulating the administration for these wonderful contract renewals. And read my lips,this administration had ample time to lock down a deal with the previous football coach. She failed miserably!! Yet she was more than happy to pay a womens coach who has been awful the last four seasons and happy to renew a mens basketball coach who finishes no better than a third seed yearly. Those are facts! Some of you can’t handle the truth.


First question for you. Are you related to Albin? Nephew? Cousin?

How often do you see a university decide during the season (football, basketball) to extend a coach's contract? Further, up above you state coaches are paid for the entire season, correct? Did our AD or university President explicitly tell Albin he was free to contact and negotiate with other football programs prior to the season concluding? I seriously doubt it. However, he chose to do just that. And it was he who chose to accept the UNCC job prior to the MACC. FACT. He chose to NOT wait until the conclusion of our season to see what the AD and President would offer. To me, that is rather foolish, unless he was wanting a change of scenery. To NOT wait for your employer of almost 20 years to make an offer after a great year is rather perplexing. He could have told the other programs that he would not make any decision until the conclusion of the season. That way he'd see what Ohio was willing to offer. You can blame the administration all you want. But the individual who apparently has caused you so much turmoil is Tim Albin. Facts matter, and he CHOSE to leave before the season concluded.


I've told him essentially the same things, Mid70s, but he won't listen. Though he might be related to Albin in one or more of the ways you list, with his constant harping on one theme and refusal to modify his opinion based on presented facts differing from his personal narrative, I was thinking that he might be related to Monroe, late of this board, now in exile.

Last Edited: 3/13/2025 11:43:51 PM by OhioCatFan


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   Posted: 3/14/2025 1:24:44 PM 
Not related to Coach Albin. However I do appreciate winners and great coaches, unlike some of you and the current administration. I don’t know Monroe either.

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   Posted: 3/14/2025 7:30:37 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
However I do appreciate winners and great coaches, unlike some of you and the current administration.


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   Posted: 3/15/2025 9:15:46 AM 
I've got some insight into last year's renewal. The AD had taken a hard look at the culture of the women's program. She was especially interested in the student-athlete experience, which prior to Boldon was horrific. They reached out to former players going back more than 30 years and found that a majority regretted their decision to play at Ohio due to terrible coaching (including some issues that could have led to litigation against the university) and inadequate support from the university. The current AD wants to change that. They found that virtually all alumni and current players who have played for Boldon LOVE him. He is a true player's coach and emphasizes all elements of the student-athlete experience, including academic support, mental health services, etc. So, given this feedback, coupled with the fact that he HAS been successful on the court over much of his tenure in Athens, she renewed him last year. No big raise, just a renewal to allow him to get the program back on its feet. It's damned unfortunate that he lost a few very talented players to larger schools, but that's the reality of mid-major programs. It's also unfortunate that the program was hit with a spate of serious injuries this year. The guy can recruit and he can coach. And now, finally, he has the support of the university to further improve the program culture. As one example, the university just completed perhaps the only fundraising program ever focused on women's basketball, paying for the upgrade of the women's locker room and showers, which hadn't been touched since the building was erected in 1968.

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   Posted: 3/15/2025 10:32:53 AM 
SBH wrote:
I've got some insight into last year's renewal. The AD had taken a hard look at the culture of the women's program. She was especially interested in the student-athlete experience, which prior to Boldon was horrific. They reached out to former players going back more than 30 years and found that a majority regretted their decision to play at Ohio due to terrible coaching (including some issues that could have led to litigation against the university) and inadequate support from the university. The current AD wants to change that. They found that virtually all alumni and current players who have played for Boldon LOVE him. He is a true player's coach and emphasizes all elements of the student-athlete experience, including academic support, mental health services, etc. So, given this feedback, coupled with the fact that he HAS been successful on the court over much of his tenure in Athens, she renewed him last year. No big raise, just a renewal to allow him to get the program back on its feet. It's damned unfortunate that he lost a few very talented players to larger schools, but that's the reality of mid-major programs. It's also unfortunate that the program was hit with a spate of serious injuries this year. The guy can recruit and he can coach. And now, finally, he has the support of the university to further improve the program culture. As one example, the university just completed perhaps the only fundraising program ever focused on women's basketball, paying for the upgrade of the women's locker room and showers, which hadn't been touched since the building was erected in 1968.


That's great, but aren't conspiracy theories more interesting?

In all seriousness, I think winning the culture war will be important in the NIL era and I think it has benefitted the football program tremendously. Perhaps Boldon will see some of that talent come back his way as a result. Combine that with some better luck on the injury front and they could bounce back quickly.
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   Posted: 3/15/2025 8:34:59 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
SBH wrote:
I've got some insight into last year's renewal. The AD had taken a hard look at the culture of the women's program. She was especially interested in the student-athlete experience, which prior to Boldon was horrific. They reached out to former players going back more than 30 years and found that a majority regretted their decision to play at Ohio due to terrible coaching (including some issues that could have led to litigation against the university) and inadequate support from the university. The current AD wants to change that. They found that virtually all alumni and current players who have played for Boldon LOVE him. He is a true player's coach and emphasizes all elements of the student-athlete experience, including academic support, mental health services, etc. So, given this feedback, coupled with the fact that he HAS been successful on the court over much of his tenure in Athens, she renewed him last year. No big raise, just a renewal to allow him to get the program back on its feet. It's damned unfortunate that he lost a few very talented players to larger schools, but that's the reality of mid-major programs. It's also unfortunate that the program was hit with a spate of serious injuries this year. The guy can recruit and he can coach. And now, finally, he has the support of the university to further improve the program culture. As one example, the university just completed perhaps the only fundraising program ever focused on women's basketball, paying for the upgrade of the women's locker room and showers, which hadn't been touched since the building was erected in 1968.


That's great, but aren't conspiracy theories more interesting?

In all seriousness, I think winning the culture war will be important in the NIL era and I think it has benefitted the football program tremendously. Perhaps Boldon will see some of that talent come back his way as a result. Combine that with some better luck on the injury front and they could bounce back quickly.


Well hell Billy Hahn should have a live time contract.
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   Posted: 3/16/2025 3:08:57 PM 
Sorry, but with the talent he inherited, Billy Hahn committed coaching malpractice. He was a horrible head coach.
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   Posted: 3/16/2025 3:46:29 PM 
You can buy that hard look at the culture of the program if you want. He was successful several seasons ago, but you and others can’t ignore the facts that the team won only 6 games two out of last three seasons. He does not have a winning record in the last four years. I realize many of his former players love the guy, but the job isn’t getting done. No need for a renewal. Would a football coach get renewed if they had that type of record the last four seasons? We all know the answer to that question? Would the mens hoop coach get renewed secretly with that record the last four seasons?

Last Edited: 3/16/2025 3:49:52 PM by Bobcat1996

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   Posted: 3/16/2025 3:48:04 PM 
SBH wrote:
Sorry, but with the talent he inherited, Billy Hahn committed coaching malpractice. He was a horrible head coach.


Some people are great head coaches and others are great assistants. Coaching "searches" back then were far different than they are today. One game below .500 after three years with Snoopy and Jameson for two of those three years was a tough fall from the Nee era.

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   Posted: 3/16/2025 4:15:22 PM 
Go back and look at the players he lost to the portal and injuries. And no, this AD would not cut a coach who faced those difficulties.
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   Posted: 3/16/2025 9:17:34 PM 
SBH wrote:
Go back and look at the players he lost to the portal and injuries. And no, this AD would not cut a coach who faced those difficulties.


How’s baseball and wrestling going. We seem to be loving winning MAC titles.
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