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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  This coming fall announcement
   Posted: 5/14/2020 12:35:32 PM 
https://www.10tv.com/article/ohio-university-planning-reo...

A big "if" that I'm afraid will be interpreted immediatley as we'll be open in the fall. Lots of planning ahead.
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rpbobcat
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   Posted: 5/14/2020 1:23:27 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
https://www.10tv.com/article/ohio-university-planning-reo...

A big "if" that I'm afraid will be interpreted immediatley as we'll be open in the fall. Lots of planning ahead.


Comments like "as long as a safe plan is in place","if it is safe for us to do so" and "should it be necessary or required to start the fall semester remotely ...",make it pretty clear that,right now,everything is up in the air.

If O.U. does decide to open in the fall,the devil will be in the details.

As I posted in the Higher Ed In Trouble Thread,N.J.colleges are already talking about the changes they are looking into for the fall.
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   Posted: 5/14/2020 3:23:36 PM 
One thing in Ohio's favor for opening, at least in part, this fall is the low number of Covid-19 cases in Athens County -- just five, making it one of the lowest in the state.

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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: This coming fall announcement
   Posted: 5/14/2020 3:34:23 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
One thing in Ohio's favor for opening, at least in part, this fall is the low number of Covid-19 cases in Athens County -- just five, making it one of the lowest in the state.


I would think they'd have to test ever student coming in,especially if they
are from "hop spot" areas.
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mf279801
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   Posted: 5/14/2020 3:48:48 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
One thing in Ohio's favor for opening, at least in part, this fall is the low number of Covid-19 cases in Athens County -- just five, making it one of the lowest in the state.


I would think they'd have to test ever student coming in,especially if they
are from "hop spot" areas.



All the craft breweries are closed/curbside only, right? That’s gotta cut down on the number of hop spots in the state, right?
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 5/14/2020 4:00:59 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
One thing in Ohio's favor for opening, at least in part, this fall is the low number of Covid-19 cases in Athens County -- just five, making it one of the lowest in the state.


One of the reasons that that has happened is OU closed before students returned from spring break. Had that not happened, I shudder to think how many cases we'd have. Right now, it's only been 6 with only Meigs (3) and Morgan (5) less than us in this area. Just to the east, Washington County has 115. Sadly, I'm afraid that many people read that headline and that's all.
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Pete Chouteau
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  Message Not Read  RE: This coming fall announcement
   Posted: 5/15/2020 12:23:58 PM 
People who like to read articles will see all the qualifying statements.

People who see headlines and assume the rest will see that OU is open this fall.

This is going to be a 1970-style fall off in enrollment and I am not sure we have the leadership to get us through it and still recognize our OU.
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rpbobcat
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   Posted: 5/15/2020 12:30:31 PM 
Pete Chouteau wrote:
People who like to read articles will see all the qualifying statements.

People who see headlines and assume the rest will see that OU is open this fall.

This is going to be a 1970-style fall off in enrollment and I am not sure we have the leadership to get us through it and still recognize our OU.




If how the whole fraternity/sorority/110 situation was handled,unless you add "lack of", "leadership" is not a word I would associate,in any way, with the current administration.
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/15/2020 3:33:05 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Pete Chouteau wrote:
People who like to read articles will see all the qualifying statements.

People who see headlines and assume the rest will see that OU is open this fall.

This is going to be a 1970-style fall off in enrollment and I am not sure we have the leadership to get us through it and still recognize our OU.




If how the whole fraternity/sorority/110 situation was handled,unless you add "lack of", "leadership" is not a word I would associate,in any way, with the current administration.



After reading the board comments in the paper, they have no leadership, there answer is to protect management and cut faculty,staff, workers and services.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: This coming fall announcement
   Posted: 5/15/2020 6:03:46 PM 
Moved to new topic on cuts

Last Edited: 5/15/2020 6:12:53 PM by Alan Swank
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: This coming fall announcement
   Posted: 5/19/2020 10:43:32 AM 
If the University doesn't reopen this fall, Athens as a community will get a unique opportunity to assess the financial impact of the University on everyone in town. Some jobs will be unaffected, while other will be directly affected, while still others who don't think the University affects them, will be indirectly affected. Athens is a beautiful town, but it is very unlike the many dying small towns in America, and partly that has to be traced to the financial impact the University makes on the entire community.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 5/19/2020 11:44:53 AM 
L.C. wrote:
If the University doesn't reopen this fall, Athens as a community will get a unique opportunity to assess the financial impact of the University on everyone in town. Some jobs will be unaffected, while other will be directly affected, while still others who don't think the University affects them, will be indirectly affected. Athens is a beautiful town, but it is very unlike the many dying small towns in America, and partly that has to be traced to the financial impact the University makes on the entire community.


We are already seeing and assessing that. Properties are going unrented, asking prices for homes for sale are going down, 3019 new claims for unemployment came in in a 6 week period, stores are closed, etc., etc. As late as 1979 when we came here, there was still manufacturing is this town. Now that OU has cut 10% of it's work force, a service industry economy will not survive as we know it particularly if rent prices on Court Street remain and sky high levels.
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JSF
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   Posted: 5/19/2020 2:02:09 PM 
L.C. wrote:
If the University doesn't reopen this fall, Athens as a community will get a unique opportunity to assess the financial impact of the University on everyone in town. Some jobs will be unaffected, while other will be directly affected, while still others who don't think the University affects them, will be indirectly affected. Athens is a beautiful town, but it is very unlike the many dying small towns in America, and partly that has to be traced to the financial impact the University makes on the entire community.


I don't think that's ever been ambiguous.

At least the food bank has money.

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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 4:02:05 PM 
L.C. wrote:
If the University doesn't reopen this fall, Athens as a community will get a unique opportunity to assess the financial impact of the University on everyone in town. Some jobs will be unaffected, while other will be directly affected, while still others who don't think the University affects them, will be indirectly affected. Athens is a beautiful town, but it is very unlike the many dying small towns in America, and partly that has to be traced to the financial impact the University makes on the entire community.


With all due respect, how do you know how the community of Athens feels? As Mr Swank and myself have recently had to defend to other posters, NO one of any cognitive ability thinks that the University is NOT the number one draw and impact in this community.

It’s the rest of the country and corporate world who have just now figured that out. 20 years ago Athens did not have 1 sit down casual restaurant of a national chain, did not have any nationally branded hotels, no WalMart, no Lowe’s. So trust me the local community is very well aware of what the University means to this town and community.

It was everyone else who failed to realize the power of the University, leaving locals and visitors alike to travel 45 min to eat at a chain restaurant, shop at a big box retailer, purchase appliances, etc. after that 1st one, it’s been steady growth, because they finally learned that the small college town is not the normal demographics. But alas, keep believing that people in Athens hates the University. It’s
Ike the old arguments that people used to make that no locals attend games 🤦🏼‍♂️

Last Edited: 5/23/2020 4:19:22 PM by BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 5:49:36 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=L.C.] 20 years ago Athens did not have 1 sit down casual restaurant of a national chain, did not have any nationally branded hotels...




Might want to recheck your facts here.
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 6:55:14 PM 
SBH wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
[QUOTE=L.C.] 20 years ago Athens did not have 1 sit down casual restaurant of a national chain, did not have any nationally branded hotels...




Might want to recheck your facts here.


What ya got? I ain’t counting Western Sizzlin. Damon’s opened late summer of 2000.

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   Posted: 5/23/2020 8:10:56 PM 
Pizza Hut.
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 8:26:59 PM 
SBH wrote:
Pizza Hut.


LOL, ok, but I’m not putting that on the same level of Applebee’s, Damon’s, Texas Roadhouse, etc.

Pizza Hut is characterized as a fast food chain.

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SBH
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 8:35:25 PM 
Casual sit down restaurant. That was your definition. Oh, and Bob Evans. And Day's Inn. Bang.



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   Posted: 5/23/2020 9:00:53 PM 
SBH wrote:
Casual sit down restaurant. That was your definition. Oh, and Bob Evans. And Day's Inn. Bang.





Still not the types of places I’m talking about. And regardless Pizza Hut is considered Fast Food, I’m talking decent dinner and a beer or drink. But I’ll banter all day. If you think you are getting big time when you have a Bob Evans, then I just don’t know what to say. Days Inn, that place was a hole when it was built. Again in last 20 years hotels and chain restaurant/bars have learned that though Athens does not meet their demographics, the University hauls the people in. Same with Lowe’s and now a Menards.
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 5/23/2020 9:57:14 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
SBH wrote:
Casual sit down restaurant. That was your definition. Oh, and Bob Evans. And Day's Inn. Bang.





Still not the types of places I’m talking about. And regardless Pizza Hut is considered Fast Food, I’m talking decent dinner and a beer or drink. But I’ll banter all day. If you think you are getting big time when you have a Bob Evans, then I just don’t know what to say. Days Inn, that place was a hole when it was built. Again in last 20 years hotels and chain restaurant/bars have learned that though Athens does not meet their demographics, the University hauls the people in. Same with Lowe’s and now a Menards.


Got to agree with Billy on this one. In 2000, East State Street was still a two lane road with a center turn lane. Bob Evans is a very local regional chain - hardly a place someone is going to before or after a game. I've lived within two blocks of East State Street since 1983 and the growth has occured in the last 15 or so years - in order Hampton Inn, Holiday Inn Express and Fairfield Inn - all national chains. Restaurant wise we now have Applebees and Texas Roadhouse on a national level. Without OU and these things aren't coming to town.
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   Posted: 5/24/2020 8:37:00 AM 
BW's and Ruby Tuesday's. When did those franchises arrive in Athens?
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   Posted: 5/24/2020 9:13:11 AM 
I'm not arguing with his basic premise (which is just as true for Oxford, Kent, Mount Pleasant and Bowling Green), but it was an exaggeration. And yes, he states that we did not have one casual sit-down restaurant affiliated with a national chain. Sorry, but the Hut qualifies...and they serve beer. Fast food? 25 minutes for a pizza! And "fast food," by restaurant industry standards, precludes the use of wait staff.

I do believe BW was here prior to 2000, as well.

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   Posted: 5/24/2020 9:30:34 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
BW's and Ruby Tuesday's. When did those franchises arrive in Athens?


BW’s in about 2002 Ruby Tuesday about the same time
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 5/24/2020 9:38:49 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
BW's and Ruby Tuesday's. When did those franchises arrive in Athens?


BW’s in about 2002 Ruby Tuesday about the same time


Good memory. Oh, how time flies.

https://www.athensnews.com/news/local/ruby-tuesdays-wal-m...
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