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Topic: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

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rpbobcat
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Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 3/31/2016 11:36:09 AM

Actually, to some people in the media out here, its a bigger "scandal" then what they're calling the "Trump assault fairy tale".

Governor Kasich was in the city yesterday trying act like a New Yorker.

He went to a local pizza place and got a slice.

Then what does he do ?

Starts eating it with a knife and fork. (Scandal #1)

When it was pointed out that this isn't how you eat pizza out here,he picks up the slice.
But he doesn't fold it in half. (Scandal # 2)

There really has to be more important stuff to talk about with Presidential candidates then this.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 3/31/2016 1:10:53 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

Scandal #3 - then this.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 3/31/2016 4:00:43 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

Scandal #3 - then this.

It was important enough that Governor Kasich made a reference to it at a news conference today.
He said something to the effect that he thinks he can get beyond the pizza incident.

At least he's got a sense of humor.

Last Edited: 3/31/2016 4:03:53 PM by rpbobcat

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 3/31/2016 7:47:11 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

Scandal #3 - then this.

I think you missed my OCF grammar police comment rp - the last two words of your original post.

And I could never figure out why New Yorkers ate pizza like that either.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/1/2016 6:52:42 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

Scandal #3 - then this.

I think you missed my OCF grammar police comment rp - the last two words of your original post.

And I could never figure out why New Yorkers ate pizza like that either.

Allen,to be honest,I didn't at first.

I was just surprised Governor Kasich felt it necessary to even respond.

As for why we eat pizza the way we do.
You fold it in half and then "lean " the slice back towards the crust so nothing falls off.

Another "trick".
When you buy two slices to go, you put one on top of the other so you can walk and eat.
(John Travolta does this in the opening scene of Saturday Night Fever)

Last Edited: 4/1/2016 7:22:51 AM by rpbobcat

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/2/2016 11:46:48 AM

John Stewart once did a 'schtick' on Trump when he did the same thing taking Palin out for pizza.. Must be a Repub' thing (except Cruz probably eats it with a knife and gun).

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/0ect4f/the-daily-show-with-...

Last Edited: 4/2/2016 11:57:45 AM by stub

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/2/2016 4:10:05 PM

stub wrote:

Actually,its not limited to one party or even "out of towners".

Mayor Deblasio got blasted for using a knife and fork to eat a slice when he first became Mayor.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/4/2016 3:07:33 PM

Apparently Governor Kasich is no fan of the movie Fargo. Actively led a campaign to have Blockbuster remove it from its shelves. You need to see the sketch on Colbert with Steve Buscemi and Colbert as Kasich and Blockbuster worker discussing the movie. Not only does Kasich hate women, minorities and education, he has sh** taste in movies and was advocating for censorship.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 8:44:06 AM

Ah, yes. We can only hope America gets to meet the real John Kasich some day soon. This touchy, feely, "let's all hold hands" guy impersonating him across the country is a little creepy.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 9:31:55 AM

I'm a bit confused.

Gov. Kasich has been campaigning in N.Y.,so the local T.V. and radio stations have aired a number of stories about him.

They were talking about his margin of victory when he ran for Governor and that he appealed to both parties.

They keep talking about how popular is in Ohio and that he won the Ohio primary.

That contradicts how Deciduous Forest Cat and Bobcatbob portray him.

Just looking for some clarification.

Last Edited: 4/5/2016 9:32:40 AM by rpbobcat

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 10:02:30 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

In the 2014 race, the DEM nominee for Governor was marginal to begin with, then ran a laughably bad campaign. To top it off, sometime in the summer (iirc) leading up to election day, police found him in a parked car "with a woman who was not his wife" (can't remember if one or both of them were drunk, either). He claimed nothing untoward had been happening in that car, and that instead he was just helping his friend (part of a trade delegation to Cleveland) find her way back to her hotel.
The real kicker to this story (And in my opinion far more damaging than had he actually been gettin' busy, consensually, with said woman in said car in said parking lot) was that he didn't have a driver's license and hadn't had one for the better part of a decade.
This led people to say to themselves "wtf? how does someone not have a drivers license for so long?" (by all appearances he never stopped driving over this time, just didn't have a license) and also led to the realization that while executive of cuyahoga county he had fired numerous county employees (who needed to drive for their job) for not having valid driver's licenses. Basically in terms of candidate quality, Fitzgerald fell somewhere "between the Jims" (Pancake and Traficant that is). All of this was very good for Kasich, but it does make his margin of victory somewhat overstated

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 11:24:09 AM

I assume that you feel that Queen Hilary and Bernie are more "touchy and feely". Governor Kasich may not be perfect, but compared to the other 4 candidates still running, he is the closest to a moderate that exists. Ohio wouldn't have expanded Medicaid if it wasn't for him. I would take my chances with him before any of the other four.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 3:03:05 PM

In 2014, Gov. Kasich ran against what amounted to a cardboard cut out.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 3:32:32 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

In 2014, Gov. Kasich ran against what amounted to a cardboard cut out.

I honestly think a cardboard cut out, or a wet stinky moldy disgusting sock, would have run ahead of ole Fitzy

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 4:45:14 PM

I give John Kasich all due credit for solid governance as a Congressman (years ago) and as the best in the current field in that aspect of things. It is true that he expanded Medicaid in Ohio (Clap, clap), which is why the Republican "establishment" is having a hard time with him now. Besides being a good thing, that happened to be a federal money grab at a time when the Ohio Treasury was in bad shape.

My comments were simply to the cosmetics of it all. He has never been shy about letting everyone around him know exactly what he thinks of them, their mother, their kids and anyone they may have met while in grade school. Google "stupid cop +Kasich" as one example. Also look back at the public frenzy surrounding the creation of "Jobs Ohio", a private organization, funded by public dollars, headed by a Kasich crony and exempt from the Ohio Auditor's oversight by design. That's a case study for you! Then there was the whole public union thing.....

Again, seeing him speak on the campaign trail as a healer just does not square with my perception.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 6:53:48 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

My comments were simply to the cosmetics of it all. He has never been shy about letting everyone around him know exactly what he thinks of them, their mother, their kids and anyone they may have met while in grade school. Google "stupid cop +Kasich" as one example.

I don't believe the Kasich cop videos support your thesis here. Calling a cop who pulled you over for something that's not generally known to be a violation of the law is not exactly saying anything about his mother, or his kids or anything of the sort. Idiot is kind of tame language. Frankly, I always thought it was a courtesy to pull over one lane when you see a cop has someone pulled over on the shoulder, but I never knew it was a state law. Though I do this in the vast majority of cases, there have been times when I did not (usually because someone was in the lane to my left, but occasionally because my mind was just not clicking on all cylinders). I've met Kasich a few times, and I'll say he is a real talker and he can go off on some wild tangents when he talks, but your portrayal of him as some kind of mean-spirited egomaniac just isn't accurate.

Bobcatbob wrote:

Again, seeing him speak on the campaign trail as a healer just does not square with my perception.

I submit your perception is warped. Truth in packaging, mine is also, as the governor appointed me a little over a year ago to the Board of Trustees of the Ohioana Library. This not a lucrative political plum, as it actually ends up taking some out of my pocket(trustees are expected to pay membership dues and help underwrite an annual dinner for Ohio authors) and putting nothing into it.

My wife's biggest complaint about Kasich is that he never knows when to shut up. He can take a 15-minute speaking opportunity and turn it into a 2 hour rambling lecture. BTW, I've heard similar complaints about the current White House incumbent.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/5/2016 7:07:08 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

I give John Kasich all due credit for solid governance as a Congressman (years ago) and as the best in the current field in that aspect of things.

I agree with that, and I would add he has been the best governor we've had in a long time. He is what I would call a pragmatic conservative. I voted for him in the Ohio primary, as block Trump vote more than anything, but I do think he'd make a good president, though Ted Cruz is probably closer to my positions on a host of issues, particularly in the area of pro-life.

Bobcatbob wrote:

It is true that he expanded Medicaid in Ohio (Clap, clap), which is why the Republican "establishment" is having a hard time with him now. Besides being a good thing, that happened to be a federal money grab at a time when the Ohio Treasury was in bad shape.

All these references to the mythical "GOP Establishment" are about to drive me nuts. There is one commentator on the air who keeps acting like a multi-ballot convention will be controlled by some mythical ghost finger from the RNC. That's just not the way things work. If a multi-ballot convention picks Cruz, or Kasich, or Rand Paul, it'll not be because of a conspiracy but because that's who the delegates want. Abraham Lincoln was nominated on the third ballot, interestingly, when four Ohio delegates switched their votes late in the roll call. If the person with 48 percent of the vote on the first ballot had been given the nomination, we would have had President William Seward, a good man but not the skilled politician that Abraham Lincoln turned out to be.

My point is that this talk of the GOP Establishment is way overblown. The Establishment is not some monolithic "they" out their pulling various strings. It's a bunch of people with varying interests, attitudes, and points of view, that sometimes manage to coalesce around mutually agreeable ideas.

Last Edited: 4/5/2016 8:18:10 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/6/2016 10:55:53 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

My point is that this talk of the GOP Establishment is way overblown. The Establishment is not some monolithic "they" out their pulling various strings. It's a bunch of people with varying interests, attitudes, and points of view, that sometimes manage to coalesce around mutually agreeable ideas.

Well, that's not what I see. I used to vote for candidates on both sides. But, not anymore. What I see from the republican party is a monolith with a strange worship of guns, that uses state governments as a vehicle to use the bible to openly persecute people, actively attempts to limit voting rights, has a head-in-the-sand view of immigration, and always chooses corporate profit over people and god's second greatest creation, Earth. It is quite depressing.

And Senate Bill 5 is a huge red flag with Kasich. He didn't say a word about it when campaigning. And then pulled out after being elected. And even after Ohioans said now way to it in huge numbers, he is looking to implement it piecemeal now.

Oh well. There are no moderates left anywhere anymore. And that is bad.

Thanks for letting me rant. Now, back to sports....

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/6/2016 11:08:46 AM

Ohio69 wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

I'll put you down as undecided. ;-)

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/6/2016 12:47:35 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

I'll put you down as undecided. ;-)

Hah!

Unrepresented is a better description.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/6/2016 5:03:26 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Comparing this cycle to that of 1860 is a bit disingenuous. The first primary in the United States was not until 1912 (Oregon, the first to set one up). Read The Bully Pulpit by Doris Kearns Goodwin for more information about that awesome election between Roosevelt and Taft. That got messy, because only 20 states had elections, the voters wanted Roosevelt, but Taft was able to control the party. Thus, he received the nomination as the sitting president. Before that, it truly was the 'Establishment' that chose the nominees of the party, not the voters. Slowly, other states starting getting on board with open caucuses or primaries.

The craziness of the 1968 Democratic National Convention set the current process in motion. Since that year, the top vote-getter from each party has been the nominee. That is the voice of the people, whether many choose to agree with the voice or dissent.

As a fan of the game of politics and presidential elections, I am eager to see how this plays out. However, there is no precedent for somebody who was not on the ballot for the primaries to be selected in an open convention. The great story of 1860 is one of back-door politics, not of the will of the people being overturned.

In 1976, Republicans had an open convention between Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. Ford had 1,106 (though some places list it as high as 1,121) delegates, Reagan had 1,034. That was a difference of only 72 delegates, with 119 uncommitted. The winner needed 1,130 to earn the nomination. It was undecided before the convention, but once again, the only two candidates were the two on the ballot and the winner was the one with the most delegates and the most votes.

Point being, the people now vote, not the Establishment. If the Establishment overrides the will of the people, I think the drive to fracture the party in a year when people feel that the government is not acting in the best interest of the people will be high.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/6/2016 6:22:35 PM

finnOhio, I think you are making too big a distinction between the primary system now in place in most states (not all) and what occurred before that. Over the years state parties have had many and varied ways of picking delegates. Some states used their representatives in the state legislature, others held state party conventions. Were delegates coming out of that system demonstratively less the "will of the people" since you are talking about the will of the party regulars, not the voting public at large? Only a small fraction of the members of either party vote in primaries these days, even with this year's record breaking numbers. And, to confound matters further, many states now have what are called "open primaries" where independents and even members of the other party can vote in your party's primary. Donald Trump has done better in these open primary states, where he pulls in independents and Democrats to vote for him. Is this the "will of the people"? Also, keep in mind that even with this spoilage of the vote, Trump has averaged 37 percent of the vote. That's hardly a mandate for anything. According to my unofficial tally that this point, after Wisconsin, Trump has 742 delegates won, and all the non-Trump candidates combined have 838. Regardless of what system you use to select delegates, pluralities don't insure winning a nomination.

Last Edited: 4/6/2016 6:41:01 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/7/2016 8:46:52 AM

More to the national vs. local perspective on Governor Kasich. I am not the only one who is a little skeptical.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/04/06/...

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/7/2016 10:25:03 AM

Announcing yesterday that OHIO is healed so we can not cut taxes because the budget is fixed. We tried this several years ago, and it did not work out real well.

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RE: Governor Kasich Faux Pas

Posted: 4/7/2016 12:08:11 PM

OCF,

While I disagree with some of your assertions, I do respect the process and the way it has changed over the short life of our awesome country. Without getting into a disagreement, it seems that we both share a love of history and of the presidency. I would then recommend that you listen to the podcast from the Washington Post, 'Presidential'. They are releasing a new podcast every Sunday on the next president in the line. This week, I was treated to an understanding of the Millard Fillmore presidency. I have listened to each multiple times thus far and have really enjoyed all of them. The John Adams and the John Tyler episodes really were interesting. Give them a listen, I imagine you'd enjoy.

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