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Alan Swank
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Bat protest

Posted: 3/25/2015 7:22:21 PM

This could be most interesting. The alleged sketchiness of the move has folks up in arms including what some on here will call the usual suspects. This will make national news.

http://www.wherevent.com/detail/Ohio-University-Student-B...

Last Edited: 3/25/2015 8:56:13 PM by Alan Swank

Obc2
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/25/2015 10:22:23 PM

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ytownbobcat
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 12:39:14 AM

So what does this have to do with Ohio University basketball?

100%Cat
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 7:47:20 AM

ytownbobcat wrote:

So what does this have to do with Ohio University basketball?

Are you going to hit every thread on this forum that doesn't directly tie to Ohio basketball with the same question?

Last Edited: 3/26/2015 7:47:28 AM by 100%Cat

The Optimist
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 8:25:12 AM

ytownbobcat wrote:

[QUOTE=Alan Swank]This could be most interesting. The alleged sketchiness of the move has folks up in arms including what some on here will call the usual suspects. This will make national news.

http://www.wherevent.com/detail/Ohio-University-Student-B...]

So what does this have to do with Ohio University basketball?

My guess is the thread about McDavis' house in the Green & White forum wasn't getting enough hits so Alan made the strategic decision to place it here.

I've seen crazier things happen.

OhioCatFan
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 11:15:16 AM

Hey, I like the idea. The prez will be moving into my neighborhood and it should increase property values! ;-)

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DelBobcat
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 3:19:22 PM

I highly doubt it will make national news. There's nothing unusual about it.

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Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 4:48:32 PM

DelBobcat wrote:

I highly doubt it will make national news. There's nothing unusual about it.

A good journalist could find quite a few unusual things about it if they would just dig a little. No, it's not unusual for a president to live off campus - that is true. I think it's a combination of the uniqueness of the OU situation, the parties involved, the reasons given for the move, and the $1.2 million that has appeared out of midair when so many facilities on campus are in dire need of repair.

Last Edited: 3/26/2015 9:08:15 PM by Alan Swank

Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/26/2015 4:49:40 PM

The Optimist wrote:

ytownbobcat wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

This could be most interesting. The alleged sketchiness of the move has folks up in arms including what some on here will call the usual suspects. This will make national news.

So what does this have to do with Ohio University basketball?

My guess is the thread about McDavis' house in the Green & White forum wasn't getting enough hits so Alan made the strategic decision to place it here.

Not really. I didn't even see the thread when I posted about the bat protest. But you are right that there is way more traffic on the basketball and football boards.

Bobcatbob
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/30/2015 1:53:29 PM

I don't have any real problem with the move so I am amused by all the effort being taken to justify it - bats or not.

What I do find interesting is how the perfect house just happened to be sitting vacant and available in Athens when it became a "crisis" in need of a solution. There can't be too many properties like that in town. And controlled by a friend of the University. How fortunate.

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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/31/2015 4:48:47 PM

The Post is live streaming the Bat Rally via periscope. The attendance looks to be underwhelming, kind of like an EMU basketball game.

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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 3/31/2015 5:39:11 PM

Is the student government president going to douse herself in bad blood? And is this something a previous student leader, Monroe, considered way back when?

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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 8:05:41 AM

The Post had a piece that said that,as of last Friday,close to 700 people had said they would be attending the rally.
According to toady's (4/1) The Post about 100 people (students + faculty) showed up.
So much for this being a big issue.
I wonder how many of the 83 faculty members who signed the protest letter published in The Post last week were there.

There's also a very good interview/article in Today's The Post about the whole issue of bats entering old buildings.
I like the guy's one comment that when you find bats,you don't have a bat problem,but a strutural problem.
That and once they find a way in,they tend to keep coming back.

Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 8:52:07 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

Dispatch says over 300.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/03/31/...

Same for the ANews:

http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-44671-protesters-a...

Last Edited: 4/1/2015 12:18:51 PM by Alan Swank

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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 9:07:16 AM

Checked back in a little later and the crowd grew well beyond the 30 or so people that were present initially. Credit to The Post for using this new technology in a meaningful way.

Mike Johnson
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 9:11:44 AM

Yesterday I was on campus, hosting parents and students from New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Why me? One parent was one of my interns back in the late 1980s,and she reached out to me for help. The students are interested in engineering and some googling had told them about Russ College.

Anyway, after meeting with a dean, faculty and student ambassadors at Russ, we strolled campus. When walking by the president's long-time house, I was reminded of my student days. In the evenings Vern Alden occasionally would drop into dorm lounges to chat with students. That likely wouldn't have happened had Vern lived off campus, and with Rod McDavis living off campus it seems inevitable that it will diminish his campus presence.

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rpbobcat
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 11:53:50 AM

Looking at the pictures in The Post, the 100 number they used seems about right.

Last Edited: 4/1/2015 11:55:28 AM by rpbobcat

Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 12:17:27 PM

Check out image 5 of 6 from the Dispatch article and you'll see way more than 100 people.

rpbobcat
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 7:01:25 PM

Looked at the Dispatch picture.
I agree there are more then 100 people.

I dislike over or under estimating the number of people at an event, based how the reporter feels about that group's cause.

One of the things I do as a land surveyor is analyze aerial and terrestrial photographs.
I looked at the photo using a template I use for this type of analysis.
Came up with 220 people.
More then the 100 The Post reported , but no where near the 700 who were supposed to attend.

Based on the number of students, faculty and employees, it doesn't seem like this issue is resonating with that many people.

As I also said in a previous post, I wonder how many of the 83 faculty members who signed the letter in The Post bothered to show up ?

OhioCatFan
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/1/2015 8:11:06 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

. . . One of the things I do as a land surveyor is analyze aerial and terrestrial photographs. I looked at the photo using a template I use for this type of analysis. Came up with 220 people. . . .

Only on BA. We have experts on everything. Thanks for sharing your expertise. I trust this analysis and suspect it's the best estimate available. Personally, I prefer that the president live on campus, but this is not an issue that I would go to the wall about. The O$U prez lives in a very snazzy house in the most expensive part of Bexley. My wife is a native of Bexley (in a more middle class section), so I'm very familiar with the town.

Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/2/2015 9:00:05 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

Just because someone doesn't show up doesn't mean it doesn't resonate with them. I was on a plane Tuesday or I would have made it. It will be interesting to see and I'm not sure how this can be measured what effect this has on giving. In the thread after this, an unpopular decision has clearly had an effect on giving. The only thing that gets the attention of organizations today is money. Look at the backlash that the states of Indiana and Arkansas are receiving. Anyway, a good discussion on a timely topic.

http://www.athensmessenger.com/news/some-donors-rescindin...

Last Edited: 4/2/2015 9:23:33 AM by Alan Swank

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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/2/2015 11:40:53 AM

I saw the news yesterday. I thought it was odd as I assumed the house was no longer lived in since the '90s and that it was more of a meet-n-greet building.

Maybe there was just a major remodel in the 90s so it looked unused for sometime??

The Optimist
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/2/2015 1:27:54 PM

"Attending" on Facebook is not actually equal to attending in real life. When I was attending OU, I regularly clicked "attending" on invites to events (mostly friend's parties) just so I would get FB notifications on the comments on that event. Now of course, most of the event notifications I get on FB are spam events like this so I do not bother to look at them. If my friends want to invite me to something, there are much better apps available.

I've seen crazier things happen.

Ohio69
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/2/2015 2:08:48 PM

I've forwarded the Anews and Post articles about this to many Bobcat alums and non-alumns I know and their reaction has been puzzlement over the protest. And many work at other universities.

One joked that this should have been expected when the two most hated professions in Athens are involved -- the OU president and a landlord. Thought that was pretty funny. And telling.

Sometimes this campus/town acts like everything is a huge Watergate conspiracy type thing, whether it is a city or university issue. The sky is falling! Again! I guess that's more fun than than seeing things as normal/typical business.

When Kasich takes his axe to higher education, I can't imagine this will even be on his radar.

Last Edited: 4/2/2015 2:10:44 PM by Ohio69

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Alan Swank
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RE: Bat protest

Posted: 4/2/2015 6:01:03 PM

Now WOUB is on it.

http://www.woub.org/2015/04/02/documents-show-trustees-ap...

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