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brucecuth
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  Message Not Read  bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/26/2013 9:06:38 PM 
I am grateful that STO runs this program.

But it looks AWFUL.   It's bad enough that the colors are all washed out (and you simply can't have that when the predominant color is green).  But the way it was shot is incompatible with STO's playback, so all the action shots break up, as if you were very quickly flipping through drawings on flip cards.  It is simply unwatchable under these circumstances.  

The WOUB technical folks need to meet with their counterparts at STO and figure this out... 
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anorris
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/27/2013 7:41:39 PM 
I noticed this as well when it came on after our game the other night and we were still bringing in the feed at work. I would like to know from anyone in the Athens area if the video is clean, or if it hitches there, as well.

I also noticed not all the video did it, it seemed to be mostly video that we had acquired (WMU footage, wherever it came from, looked fine). It shouldn't be a format incompatibility, as both WOUB and STO are broadcasting in 1080i.

What it looks like to me is a simple field dominance issue.
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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/28/2013 1:47:56 PM 
On a somewhat related question: In watching the Ohio vs Kent game, our picture quality was pretty good until about half time, then it turned very bad and stayed that way except for a couple of times, for almost exactly 10 seconds or so, where the picture returned to being pretty good. Unfortunately, both times, the bad picture came right back.

And when I say bad picture, I mean so bad you really can't read the on-screen clock, and can just make out the scores. In fact, on a fast break, I confused Ivo Baltic with D.J. Cooper. That bad.

Is that a streaming issue, or something we can control?
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/28/2013 11:29:44 PM 
What do you mean by "our"? That was a Kent home game, so that would be their people doing the stream, no? Or the conference. Wouldn't be us, right?


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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/29/2013 9:03:53 AM 
The "our" refers to my household. I'm not casting blame on Ohio, Kent or STO. I'm just trying to understand the source of the irratic quality, and whether or not there's anything I can do about it.
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anorris
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/31/2013 1:42:08 AM 
ESPN3 or mac-sports.com? Either way, could be bandwidth to your house (ISP, congestion in the neighborhood if you're on cable), bandwidth in your house (other users, wifi signal strength if a computer was moved, etc.), or other computer resources (RAM, etc. -- I've often found closing my browser entirely and restarting it during halftime helped quite a lot with ESPN3 streams for football games this fall; Flash can be very prone to memory leaks).

Most streams will continuously evaluate how well your computer is keeping up with the video playback and adjust accordingly (usually streams are delivered in small chunks, which would account for the 10-second improvements - in all likelyhood the program thought, "hey, lets give the higher quality a shot," then said, "nope, not working well enough, back down we go").

Last Edited: 1/31/2013 1:44:22 AM by anorris

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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 1/31/2013 8:36:33 AM 
I'm accessing through ESPN3. Thanks for the info. You've helped me with this in the past, but I'm always puzzled about where the problem exists, with our household or with the ISP.


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Tim Burke
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  Message Not Read  RE: bobcat showcase on STO
   Posted: 2/27/2013 1:01:58 AM 
brucecuth wrote:
I am grateful that STO runs this program.

But it looks AWFUL.   It's bad enough that the colors are all washed out (and you simply can't have that when the predominant color is green).  But the way it was shot is incompatible with STO's playback, so all the action shots break up, as if you were very quickly flipping through drawings on flip cards.  It is simply unwatchable under these circumstances.  

The WOUB technical folks need to meet with their counterparts at STO and figure this out... 


I haven't watched it in a long time, but the last time I did it was sent as an interlaced, SD feed which when upscaled without being deinterlaced will look awful.

It needs to be sent out in 1080p and letting whoever rebroadcasts it deal with the translation. That could be done in a matter of minutes with free software, but seeing as how my job is to watch television and I see people whose job it is to know how to perform this simple act not know how to do it, and in this case it's kids who aren't being paid or are being paid very little...


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