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  Message Not Read  Share worthy story?
   Posted: 10/15/2011 11:51:16 AM 
There's alot of neat, subtle stuff in this article. Kinda shows the various crossroads of America and American thinking these days. Figured some of you would enjoy it.

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011/oct/15/moncks-cor.../





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  Message Not Read  RE: Share worthy story?
   Posted: 10/17/2011 9:36:37 PM 
Won't anyone THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


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  Message Not Read  RE: Share worthy story?
   Posted: 10/18/2011 1:19:20 PM 
Microwave radiation causes electrophoresis, which alters the internal components of your cells, including DNA.

It also reduces melatonin, which is crucial to regulation of hormones and circadian rhythms.

Third, it erodes the blood-brain barrier, which is what protects your brain from toxins including metals.

It's entirely possible that the proliferation of cell phones and Wi-Fi will eventually (when it's too late) be seen as partially or largely responsible for the epidemic levels of cancer, insomnia, hormonal problems and degenerative brain diseases.

The FCC considered ONLY ONE health criterion - the potential for your cells to be heated by several degrees - when it greased the skids for ubiquitous wireless penetration in 1996. Credible research by scientists who actually care about the public interest, such as Henry Lai at the University of Washington, has been routinely snuffed out. In Lai's case, it was systematically "discredited" by Motorola operatives.

A meta-analysis by microwavenews.com found that studies of wireless safety were almost perfectly divided into two types. Studies that were not sponsored by the industry found pathways for harm, while industry-sponsored ones did not. 

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  Message Not Read  RE: Share worthy story?
   Posted: 10/21/2011 4:27:53 PM 
PF has stated his fear of WiFi and cell phone radiation several times recently, so I thought there was a need for the other side of the story to be given to posters as well.  Here's what the American Cancer Society says about the dangers of microwave RF exposure at the levels cell phones are capable of producing.  Click here for full article.


Here's a key quote with specific reference to the question of DNA damage.  

What does the laboratory evidence suggest?

As noted above, the RF waves given off by cell phones don't have enough energy to damage DNA directly. Because of this, many scientists believe that cell phones aren't able to cause cancer. Most studies done in the lab have supported this theory, finding that RF waves do not cause DNA damage.

A number of scientists have reported that the RF waves from cell phones produce effects in human cells (in lab dishes) that might possibly help tumors grow. However, several studies in rats and mice have looked at whether RF energy might promote the development of tumors caused by other known carcinogens (cancer-causing agents). These studies did not find evidence of tumor promotion.

A large study now being done by the US National Toxicology Program should help address some of the questions about whether exposure to RF energy could potentially lead to health issues. The study will expose a large group of laboratory mice and rats to RF energy for several hours a day for up to 2 years and follow the animals from birth to old age.

 

Last Edited: 10/21/2011 4:31:05 PM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Share worthy story?
   Posted: 11/4/2011 10:18:42 AM 
OCF, I appreciate your interest, and I know that for most people giving up wireless is a nonstarter at this point.

That doesn't change reality, though. Reality is that no study can replicate the real-world conditions of low-level, decades-long human exposure to microwaves.
 
Until that time elapses, we won't know what the effects are. The harm pathways I outlined above - DNA changes, melatonin reduction and erosion of the blood-brain barrier - could be subtle or could be pronounced.

Like with many other subjects, it's dangerous to have a settled perspective that wireless communication is harmless. There is an extremely useful concept - the precautionary principle - that has fallen by the wayside to a great extent.

You know who still employs the precautionary principle? Major insurance companies. Media outlets including The (London) Observer and Harper's magazine have reported that Lloyds of London and Swiss Re will not underwrite policies containing any provision for recovery for wireless-caused health damages.

As for the American Cancer Society, they have not earned the right to be a trusted source. Given the organization's historical origins, its longtime shilling for the chemical industry and the troubling ratio of its expenditures for research versus overhead, it would be silly to expect them to take any real stand on microwave safety. Please take some time to read these excellent critiques of ACS. The first two are short and easy to read:

islaslab.blogspot.com/2011/05/cancer-and-corruption.html

www.whale.to/cancer/american_cancer_society_h.html

www.impactpress.com/articles/augsep00/cancer8900.html
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  Message Not Read  RE: Share worthy story?
   Posted: 11/4/2011 10:58:25 PM 
I will come back and read your links later, PF.  I'm going to bed in a few minutes as I have to get up very early (for me) in the morning to play old-guy basketball.  The only thing that I"ll say now is that the kinds of study that the ACS mentioned in the last paragraph talking is the same kind of animal study that was able to show a link between exposure to tobacco smoke and lung cancer before the mechanisms in humans were understood.  Using laboratory rats with their much shorter normal life span are often a very good way to project the effects on humans over a much longer period of time.  It's not perfect -- but in general -- rats are more sensitive to carcinogens than are humans.


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