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Author Message Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/1/2010 4:28:07 PM    http://www.finearts.ohio.edu/art/galleries/current.htm Prostitute/porn star turned sexologist/performance artist Annie Sprinkle is being brought in to Ohio University.  Her "art" and "show" is being sponsored by the Kennedy Lecture Series, Arts for Ohio, Ohio University, the Kennedy Museum of Art, and the School of Fine Arts. It's really ironic how the same people who consider this stuff as a wise investment of university funds dismiss athletics as a waste of money.  While "Sexecology" may be worth at least a look as a form of art, it's a questionable use of taxpayer funds in a time of fiscal austerity.  (If this event is being sponsored entirely by private and/or foundation funds, someone please enlighten me on this.)  Also, it's worth checking out the doctoral research being conducted in schools like Communications.  Some of the doctoral research is on topics so obscure and eccentric that it's hard to find any "public value" in it...especially in a time of fiscal austerity.    Back to Top BobcatJH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 81 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 1:09:13 AM  Slippery slope, here we come. Like I said elsewhere, the test of worth of a program/show/exhibit at a university isn't whether or not you morally agree/disagree with it. And let's not get into a "public value" debate. What's the public value of Ohio playing in a fourth-tier bowl game? And the more we use "public value" as the frame when deciding on a college's educational offerings, the less we truly prepare a school's students for the real world. Cutting the kinds of programs that actually teach people to think creatively and be fully-fledged human beings at the expense of business, etc., is a horrible mistake. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,023 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 9:36:40 AM  Yeah, pretty silly, eh Jeff? Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Flomo-genized General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 574 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 10:19:53 AM  Jeff, While "Ms. Sprinkle" wouldn't be my top choice for entertainment to bring in either, I'm guessing that her appearance fee is probably on the order of a few thousand dollars.  That is a drop in the bucket compared to the money thrown at athletics.  It is truly apples and oranges. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 4:33:18 PM  BobcatJH wrote: Slippery slope, here we come. Like I said elsewhere, the test of worth of a program/show/exhibit at a university isn't whether or not you morally agree/disagree with it. And let's not get into a "public value" debate. What's the public value of Ohio playing in a fourth-tier bowl game? And the more we use "public value" as the frame when deciding on a college's educational offerings, the less we truly prepare a school's students for the real world. Cutting the kinds of programs that actually teach people to think creatively and be fully-fledged human beings at the expense of business, etc., is a horrible mistake. Well, I agree with some of what you are saying.  But again, a lot of the opponents of athletics are using the "public value" argument.  Agree that the liberal arts have value that cannot be quantified necessarily...that doesn't mean that the humanities and liberal arts should be cut from the curriculum. But I would have to say that spending money on programs like "Sexecology" is pushing the envelope on wise expenditures of public funds when universities are trying to make their case with state legislatures for further funding.  Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 4:35:40 PM  Flomo-genized wrote: Jeff, While "Ms. Sprinkle" wouldn't be my top choice for entertainment to bring in either, I'm guessing that her appearance fee is probably on the order of a few thousand dollars.  That is a drop in the bucket compared to the money thrown at athletics.  It is truly apples and oranges. It's not comparing Sprinkle to the entire athletics budget.  Sprinkle might be the tip of the iceberg.  (No puns intended.)  There might be a wide assortment of other expenditures that should be questioned...if you add them all up, it might not be apples vs. oranges any more.  Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,223 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/2/2010 8:25:49 PM  Huh......and she has a Ph.D. Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 993 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/3/2010 12:11:43 AM  You guys seriously need to lighten up...she'll draw a good crowd, and she's a legend in her field. God forbid we actually bring a big name to Athens. Seriously, lighten up. If you don't want to attend, don't. Don't rip others that find her interesting. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/3/2010 12:05:03 PM  Not ripping those who find her interesting.  Merely raising the question of whether public funds should be expended on this when the university is competing for scarce resources. Being a "legend in her field" isn't enough justification.  We could do a lot of things just to draw a crowd.  Back to Top Flomo-genized General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 574 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/3/2010 12:08:18 PM  Jeff, I hear your point, but this is still a drop in the bucket compared to athletics.  Let's say that her appearance fee is $5,000.  You'd have to find 2,899 other similarly questionable $5K expenditures to match the $14.5 million in institutional funds devoted to athletics.  Athletics is simply a completely different beast. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/3/2010 5:06:31 PM  Flomo-genized wrote: Jeff, I hear your point, but this is still a drop in the bucket compared to athletics.  Let's say that her appearance fee is $5,000.  You'd have to find 2,899 other similarly questionable $5K expenditures to match the $14.5 million in institutional funds devoted to athletics.  Athletics is simply a completely different beast. Vedder and I got together this afternoon and found 2,346...give us time and we'll come up with the other 553... Your argument assumes that the entire $14.5 million to athletics is in the "questionable" pot.  Which I know you don't believe.  To compare to the Sexecology expenditure and others, wouldn't you have to pull out those discrete parts of the athletic budget deemed "questionable"?  If you did that, the disparity between questionable athletics expenditures and those of the rest of the university might be a lot less.  Rather than looking at the entire university budget on an aggregate basis per department, we would be wise to analyze it on a dollar by dollar basis.  No?    Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,164 Status: Offline     RE: Ohio University spending money on THIS??!?!    Posted: 11/8/2010 5:45:55 PM  Were student fees or tax-payer money used for this?  If the former, I agree with Flomo.  If the latter, I agree with Jeff. 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