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Topic: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Topic: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

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WestOhioBobcatFan
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Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 9:12:30 AM

According to FootballScoop and Dave Campbell's Texas Football

https://footballscoop.com/news/update-at-rice-where-a-pat...

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 9:28:29 AM

WestOhioBobcatFan wrote:

According to FootballScoop and Dave Campbell's Texas Football

https://footballscoop.com/news/update-at-rice-where-a-pat...

Good for him. It�s nice to see him getting noticed. I hope he stays in Athens.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 9:36:09 AM

As much as I'd like for him to stay in Athens, if he is offered the job, he needs to accept it. Always go for the money. He makes a nice living in Athens now, but Rice could offer him generational money.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 10:15:33 AM

I know rules have changed but I still think the rules are that they could not have contacted him at this point without permission. I suspect that since he is now on a short list, if the report is accurate, Rice knows he has some interest in this job. He'd go from about 750K to 1M. A 250K raise is crazy money for most people but only about 30% in this case. And the cost of living is higher. But there are also different perks and opportunities in both jobs. But he's also built up some job security here. This isn't a P5 job. I think that It is still in the territory that it is at least somewhat possible that he'd chose to stay. If he's now on the short list, I don't know that he will.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 10:32:21 AM

I love what this says about Ohio�s program. I just hope that if he leaves they promote from within and keep it going.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 10:33:25 AM

I'm not surprised in the least to see Albin generating interest from other schools, but is Rice really where he wants to be? The AAC is still a G5 conference, and Rice is a minor player in the Texas market, as well as a chronic also-ran. They have had precisely one coach since 1966 with a winning record (7-6), and that coach was there for only a single year before getting out of town. I think Albin is a great coach, and therefore I think he will get a better offer than Rice, but I suppose, if Rice offers enough bucks, it's worth a look.

Also, living in Houston is very, very different than living in Athens. Some people like the big city life, while other like a smaller town vibe. Albin should choose wherever he feels more comfortable.

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 10:36:24 AM by L.C.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 10:42:59 AM

If I were Rice, I'd be most interested in the Sam Houston guy.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening (NT)

Posted: 11/22/2024 11:34:06 AM

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 11:38:04 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 11:37:26 AM

shabamon wrote:

If I were Rice, I'd be most interested in the Sam Houston guy.

My first thought, but he's 65 years old. Respect to anyone in this game for that long, but would he want to start over? Getting a big payday for retirement sounds great, but not if youre too old to enjoy it.

Tymaster wrote:

Would Albin really go to Rice? I just googled the last guys contract and he only made $900K.

That's not exactly generational wealth. He's making $800K+ in Athens and pumping out 10 win seasons.

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 11:37:51 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 11:52:40 AM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

shabamon wrote:

If I were Rice, I'd be most interested in the Sam Houston guy.

Tymaster wrote:

Would Albin really go to Rice? I just googled the last guys contract and he only made $900K.

That's not exactly generational wealth. He's making $800K+ in Athens and pumping out 10 win seasons.

That's the last guy. Certainly if Rice is interested in taking someone else's coach, they're going to offer a significant increase. The other consideration is the sponsorship opportunities in a market that is the 4th largest (although they keep claiming they're third) in the US. Although the AAC is still group of five, I'd argue they are "larger" than the MAC. Just my thoughts. If Rice comes at him with anything less than 2.5 million, I scoff.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 12:59:19 PM

L.C. wrote:

Jim Grobe comes to mind. He took over an Ohio program that was 0-11 in 1995. In Grobe's 1st year Ohio went 2-8-1. Second season 6-6. Third season 8-3 and I thought he might be gone. But he stayed 3 more seasons. In his 6th season the team went 7-4 with wins over Minnesota and Marshall. Then Grobe accepted the job at moribund Wake Forest. I phoned him. (We had become close as his 6 years as Ohio coach coincided with my 6 years as president of the Ohio Akron-Canton alumni chapter.) He told me that it was difficult to leave Ohio, but the Wake job would give him and his family a sizable nest egg that he felt obligated to provide.

How did the move work out on the field? Not bad. In 2006 he was voted ACC Coach of the year and Associated Press Coach of the Year. He retired after the 2013 season by which time the Wake program had flattened from the 2006 mountain top.

Might Albin see a Rice-like job as one that would give him more of a nest egg plus some possible national recognition if he proves able to resurrect its program?

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 2:57:02 PM by Mike Johnson

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 1:09:06 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Tymaster wrote:

Would Albin really go to Rice? I just googled the last guys contract and he only made $900K.

That's not exactly generational wealth. He's making $800K+ in Athens and pumping out 10 win seasons.

My thoughts exactly. I don't think Albin leaves at the age of 59 after 20 years in Athens for Rice.

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 1:18:33 PM by Andrew Ruck

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 1:12:34 PM

Mike Johnson wrote:

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Might Albin see a Rice-like job as one that would give him more of a nest egg plus some possible national recognition if he proves able to resurrect its program?

Not if they only offer him the $900k that the current coach is making. I'm guessing here, but I'd guess that the cost of living in Houston is 30-40% higher than in Athens, so making $900k in Houston would be like making $670,000 in Athens, and thus, a pay cut in spending power. I don't believe Texas has an state income tax, so it would figure out better than $670k, but still, I don't think it would be a significant pay increase.

Now, if Rice were to offer $1.5 million, then yes, that would be a good increase.

Edit - Here's a cost of living comparison. One thing it doesn't factor in is the dramatic increase in commute time and driving distance. In Houston, you probably should plan for at least 1/2 hour each way for commuting to work.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?...

Last Edited: 11/22/2024 1:17:30 PM by L.C.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 1:16:49 PM

Rice isn�t even P4 school. Leaving at age 59 to try to turn around a program to be, at best, the seventh best program in the state of Texas? Maybe they have someone ready to ante up. Would be interesting choice.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 1:34:13 PM

Albin has been an excellent head coach. However, if I were a "big football" AD making a critical coaching hire, I wouldn't choose him. As much as I like him, he's got a poor media presence and does not exude leadership or confidence. He seems nervous and unsure of himself in interpersonal situations. His hiring would likely bring immediate, albeit unwarranted, criticism to the AD.

I also believe Albin would like to emulate Frank's career - stay where you're wanted and build a legacy. I have no problem with another bump in pay, at least to approach what Candle is making at Toledo.

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RE: Albin "Serious Candidate" for Rice Head Coach Opening

Posted: 11/22/2024 1:36:50 PM

L.C. wrote:

Mike Johnson wrote:

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Might Albin see a Rice-like job as one that would give him more of a nest egg plus some possible national recognition if he proves able to resurrect its program?

I think his actual cost of living is probably a small fraction of is salary. For most people, having less income tax, which usually also means paying more in other types of taxes, wouldn't offset the cost of living. In his case he might make more in Texas.

Another thing to consider is does he think Smith or Hauser is going to get the job here and how many of his staff will get raises moving on to Rice or being promoted on the new Ohio staff if we hire internally to replace him. He might care a whole lot about that or perhaps only a little.

I'd still bet against this happening. But we can't really judge his interest. There are also other jobs he'll be considered for. That's especially true if he ends the MAC Championship drought.

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