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Topic:  OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney

Topic:  OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
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  Message Not Read  OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/9/2023 10:40:13 PM 
I was trying to remember which OAC team used to run the single wing when no other team was using it. They won a lot of games with less than stellar talent because opponents could not successfully prepare for it in one week. I just can't remember which team it was. Seems to me the name might have started with an "O." Was it Otterbein or Oberlin, maybe? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ohio Wesleyan.

For some reason I could not find the answer with an internet search, but I know Jeff won't fail me.


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  Message Not Read  RE: OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/10/2023 8:06:18 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I was trying to remember which OAC team used to run the single wing when no other team was using it. They won a lot of games with less than stellar talent because opponents could not successfully prepare for it in one week. I just can't remember which team it was. Seems to me the name might have started with an "O." Was it Otterbein or Oberlin, maybe? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ohio Wesleyan.

For some reason I could not find the answer with an internet search, but I know Jeff won't fail me.


It was Dennison and they were in the NCAC. Legendary coach Keith Piper. Here is his obituary which is a nice tribute to his career. I have a signed copy of his book "Single Wing and a Prayer". Was a very good coach and better person.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/11/sports/keith-piper-76-...

Last Edited: 11/10/2023 8:06:56 AM by BillyTheCat

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  Message Not Read  RE: OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/10/2023 10:58:30 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I was trying to remember which OAC team used to run the single wing when no other team was using it. They won a lot of games with less than stellar talent because opponents could not successfully prepare for it in one week. I just can't remember which team it was. Seems to me the name might have started with an "O." Was it Otterbein or Oberlin, maybe? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ohio Wesleyan.

For some reason I could not find the answer with an internet search, but I know Jeff won't fail me.


It was Dennison and they were in the NCAC. Legendary coach Keith Piper. Here is his obituary which is a nice tribute to his career. I have a signed copy of his book "Single Wing and a Prayer". Was a very good coach and better person.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/11/sports/keith-piper-76-...


Thanks for the info and the link.


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  Message Not Read  RE: OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/16/2023 12:30:15 AM 
Denison used to be in the OAC before they left for the NCAC. When they ran the single wing, were they still in the OAC?
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  Message Not Read  RE: OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/16/2023 12:34:50 AM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Denison used to be in the OAC before they left for the NCAC. When they ran the single wing, were they still in the OAC?


If I read it correctly, he ran the single wing, then dropped it, and then brought it back, so it's possible he ran it in both leagues.


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  Message Not Read  RE: OAC Football Question for Mr. Div III, Jeff McKinney
   Posted: 11/16/2023 7:23:38 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Denison used to be in the OAC before they left for the NCAC. When they ran the single wing, were they still in the OAC?


If I read it correctly, he ran the single wing, then dropped it, and then brought it back, so it's possible he ran it in both leagues.


He definitely ran it in the NCAC
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