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Author Message RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,408 Status: Offline     ACC?    Posted: 9/1/2023 11:56:54 PM  Well - Apparently a Lot of conferences are going to need name changes as this will make absolutely no sense at all...Maybe sillier than Big 10 conference name.... https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/sport/stanford-cal-smu-atl... RS Bobcat Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,688 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/2/2023 8:32:34 AM  https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202309010079/3 Article today about the logistics Pitt will face with the new travel reality, especially for non revenue sports. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,074 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/2/2023 10:16:42 AM  This just gets us one step closer to a four conference 16 teams per conference separate division. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,309 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/2/2023 4:46:43 PM  With all the additional travel "P" teams will have, gptta wonder how that will affect payouts for G5 teams. It's hard to imagine that we could get any less than we already do for "P" road games, but those million-dollar payouts other teams get could be a thing of the past. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,005 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/2/2023 8:18:25 PM  Alan Swank wrote: This just gets us one step closer to a four conference 16 teams per conference separate division. I doubt that when the Big Ten and ACC already have moved beyond that to 18 teams. The direction is down the road of an alpha confernce Big Ten of 26-28 teams that is forever #1 in everything college athletics. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,309 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/2/2023 8:25:00 PM  Campus Flow wrote: Alan Swank wrote: This just gets us one step closer to a four conference 16 teams per conference separate division. I doubt that when the Big Ten and ACC already have moved beyond that to 18 teams. The direction is down the road of an alpha confernce Big Ten of 26-28 teams that is forever #1 in everything college athletics. Or even more egregious,one conference filling all the slots in the top ten. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,882 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/6/2023 11:39:08 AM  Imagine being a softball player for Stanford and finding out next year you'll have to play at Boston College & UNC. 3 game weekend series, can't possibly be paired with another road opponent without missing an entire week of school. This is so incredibly stupid it really enrages me. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,808 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/6/2023 1:31:03 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Imagine being a softball player for Stanford and finding out next year you'll have to play at Boston College & UNC. 3 game weekend series, can't possibly be paired with another road opponent without missing an entire week of school. This is so incredibly stupid it really enrages me. Guess you haven't got the memo that a very high percentage of those kids take on-line classes in today's world? This is an old article, but the issue has only increased!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/12/23/on... / Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/6/2023 3:12:41 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Guess you haven't got the memo that a very high percentage of those kids take on-line classes in today's world? This is an old article, but the issue has only increased!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/12/23/on... / The question is, just how much are students learning in on-line classes. I can only speak to what we've seen at FDU with kids who took on line classes for math and introductory engineering. We've found that, even though they passed their on line classes, they didn't have anywhere near the grasp of the course materials as students who took the same classes on campus. Guess it depends on what classes you take and what you hope to get out of it, other then a piece of paper. What really amazes me is how easy it seems to be for some students to get multiple Masters Degrees. I went through hell just to get one in engineering. That required a minimum GPA of 3.5. AND You were only allowed 2 B's or you had to retake classes. I will say that the professors did work with students to avoid that. Last Edited: 9/6/2023 3:17:06 PM by rpbobcat Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,273 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/6/2023 4:34:35 PM  rpbobcat wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Guess you haven't got the memo that a very high percentage of those kids take on-line classes in today's world? This is an old article, but the issue has only increased!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/12/23/on... / The question is, just how much are students learning in on-line classes. I can only speak to what we've seen at FDU with kids who took on line classes for math and introductory engineering. We've found that, even though they passed their on line classes, they didn't have anywhere near the grasp of the course materials as students who took the same classes on campus. Guess it depends on what classes you take and what you hope to get out of it, other then a piece of paper. What really amazes me is how easy it seems to be for some students to get multiple Masters Degrees. I went through hell just to get one in engineering. That required a minimum GPA of 3.5. AND You were only allowed 2 B's or you had to retake classes. I will say that the professors did work with students to avoid that. Every generation says it about the one before, but honestly it's wild to look back - bc I feel pretty young, but we really didn't even have cell phones in class. 2009 was really bizarre, because it doesn't seem that far away, but the iPhone had just come in the summer of 2008 (maybe 2007?) so college kids didn't have them yet, and most technology was not even attempting that kind of pocket computer level. I mean text messages cost money, per message. I once had a $1,000 phone bill and couldn't go on spring break, bc messages were like 25 cents to send. 5 to receive. Mind blowing. The first Macbook didn't come out til 2008. Online classes were extremely few and far between. It was not even 15 years ago and I feel like I'm talking about tunneling under the Pyramids. Now kids have Chegg, and AI applications. I'm envious. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,808 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/6/2023 5:51:28 PM  rpbobcat wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Guess you haven't got the memo that a very high percentage of those kids take on-line classes in today's world? This is an old article, but the issue has only increased!!! https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/12/23/on... / The question is, just how much are students learning in on-line classes. I can only speak to what we've seen at FDU with kids who took on line classes for math and introductory engineering. We've found that, even though they passed their on line classes, they didn't have anywhere near the grasp of the course materials as students who took the same classes on campus. Guess it depends on what classes you take and what you hope to get out of it, other then a piece of paper. What really amazes me is how easy it seems to be for some students to get multiple Masters Degrees. I went through hell just to get one in engineering. That required a minimum GPA of 3.5. AND You were only allowed 2 B's or you had to retake classes. I will say that the professors did work with students to avoid that. Some just want to play ball and get whatever degree they want. And SO many schools offer full online degree programs now. Take Burrow for example, got his Masters at LSU, never stepped foot in a classroom. It's becoming the norm and not the exception. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/7/2023 6:48:08 AM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: The question is, just how much are students learning in on-line classes. I can only speak to what we've seen at FDU with kids who took on line classes for math and introductory engineering. We've found that, even though they passed their on line classes, they didn't have anywhere near the grasp of the course materials as students who took the same classes on campus. Guess it depends on what classes you take and what you hope to get out of it, other then a piece of paper. What really amazes me is how easy it seems to be for some students to get multiple Masters Degrees. Every generation says it about the one before, but honestly it's wild to look back - bc I feel pretty young, but we really didn't even have cell phones in class. 2009 was really bizarre, because it doesn't seem that far away, but the iPhone had just come in the summer of 2008 (maybe 2007?) so college kids didn't have them yet, and most technology was not even attempting that kind of pocket computer level. I mean text messages cost money, per message. I once had a $1,000 phone bill and couldn't go on spring break, bc messages were like 25 cents to send. 5 to receive. Mind blowing. The first Macbook didn't come out til 2008. Online classes were extremely few and far between. It was not even 15 years ago and I feel like I'm talking about tunneling under the Pyramids. Now kids have Chegg, and AI applications. I'm envious. My post was about the difference we're seeing at FDU today between students who take math and introductory engineering classes on line or on campus. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,312 Status: Online     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/7/2023 8:57:42 AM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: ... Every generation says it about the one before, but honestly it's wild to look back - bc I feel pretty young, but we really didn't even have cell phones in class. ... As someone who grew up with a slide rule (and yes, I still have one), I remember when calculators came out, and I remember the controversy when they began allowing student to opt for typing exam answers (in a separate room) instead of writing them longhand. So much change over the years, but that doesn't necessarily make things worse. I would argue, though, that the more manually you had to do things (e.g. slide rule versus app), the more you needed to understand the underlying calculations. In the end, though, the proof is in the pudding. If modern buildings or bridges start falling down because of structural errors, we have a problem, but if they last longer, then all the increased automation of calculations is a good thing. Yes, for many products, "they don't build them like they used to", but that difference is accounted for in dramatically cheaper prices, adjusted for inflation. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: ACC?    Posted: 9/7/2023 10:57:56 AM  L.C. wrote: As someone who grew up with a slide rule (and yes, I still have one), I remember when calculators came out, and I remember the controversy when they began allowing student to opt for typing exam answers (in a separate room) instead of writing them longhand. So much change over the years, but that doesn't necessarily make things worse. I would argue, though, that the more manually you had to do things (e.g. slide rule versus app), the more you needed to understand the underlying calculations. In the end, though, the proof is in the pudding. If modern buildings or bridges start falling down because of structural errors, we have a problem, but if they last longer, then all the increased automation of calculations is a good thing. Yes, for many products, "they don't build them like they used to", but that difference is accounted for in dramatically cheaper prices, adjusted for inflation. My dad loved his Slide Rule, with the holster. He actually considered being buried with it. I could never get the hang of it. Thank goodness calculators came out when I was an undergrad. At FDU we noticed a lack of understanding for in a number of areas when students relied solely on computers. To address this ,we've gone back to having students take a "hand drafting" course, as well as use the "Steel Manual" for steel design. We've seen a big improvement with students understanding concepts and calculations. We've had a number of students compliment us on much better they understand things when they learn to do things "by hand" first. 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