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Victory
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Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/21/2023 10:06:27 PM

Group of Five Top 25
1. Tulane (three first-place votes)
2. UTSA
3. SMU (one first-place vote)
4. Troy
5. Boise State
6. (tie) Toledo and Western Kentucky
8. JMU
9. (tie) Coastal Carolina and South Alabama
11. Memphis
12. Air Force
13. Liberty
14. Marshall
15. Fresno State
16. San Diego State
17. Ohio
18. FAU
19. Appalachian State
20. Louisiana
21. Miami (Ohio)
22. Eastern Michigan
23. North Texas
24. (tie) Central Michigan and Georgia Southern
RV: Middle Tennessee, Navy, Louisiana Tech, Buffalo, East Carolina, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, Wyoming, UAB

First Team Offense
QB Frank Harris, UTSA
RB George Holani, Boise State
RB Frank Gore Jr., Southern Miss
WR Tory Horton, Colorado State
WR Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
WR Joshua Cephus, UTSA
TE Brady Hunt, Ball State
TE Mark Redman, San Diego State
OL Nick Rosi, Toledo
OL Nolan Potter, NIU
OL Prince Pines, Tulane
OL Sincere Haynesworth, Tulane
OL AJ Gillie, Louisiana
AP Jermaine Brown Jr., UAB

First Team Defense
DL Owen Porter, Marshall
DL T.J. Jackson, Troy
DL Kendy Charles, Liberty
DL Brandon Brown, UTSA
DL Payton Zdroik, Air Force
LB Jason Henderson, Old Dominion
LB Shaun Dolac, Buffalo
LB Dallas Gant, Toledo
LB D.J. Schramm, Boise State
LB Easton Gibbs, Wyoming
DB Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
DB Reddy Steward, Troy
DB Ike Larsen, Utah State
DB Yam Banks, South Alabama
DB Jack Howell, Colorado State

First Team Special Teams
K Dominic Zvada, Arkansas State
P Jack Browning, San Diego State
RS Smoke Harris, Louisiana Tech

Second Team Offense
QB Grayson McCall, Coastal Carolina
RB Marquez Cooper, Ball State
RB Samson Evans, Eastern Michigan
WR Sam Pinckney, Coastal Carolina
WR Khaleb Hood, Georgia Southern
WR Sam Wiglusz, Ohio
TE Oscar Cardenas, UTSA
TE Neal Johnson, Louisiana
OL X'Zauvea Gadlin, Liberty
OL Nick Kidwell, JMU
OL Isaiah Helms, App State
OL Cade Beresford, Boise State
OL Brian Dooley, Eastern Michigan
AP La'Damian Webb, South Alabama

Second Team Defense
DL Brandon Brown, UTSA
DL James Carpenter, JMU
DL Fish McWilliams, UAB
DL Mohamed Kamara, Colorado State
DL Mazin Richards, North Texas
LB JaQues Evans, Western Kentucky
LB Alec Mock, Air Force
LB Clayton Coll, Ball State
LB Tyrice Knight, UTEP
LB Kavian Gaither, Sam Houston
DB Ridge Texada, North Texas
DB Nate Bauer, Toledo
DB Maxen Hook, Toledo
DB Micah Abraham, Marshall
S Rashad Wisdom, UTSA

Second Team Special Teams
K John Hoylan, Wyoming
P Mitchell Tomasek, Eastern Michigan
RS Keegan Wilburn, Ohio

Third Team Offense
QB Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
RB Larry McCammon III, FAU
RB Blake Watson, Memphis
WR Alex Adams, Akron
WR De'Corian Clark, UTSA
WR Jerjuan Newton, Toledo
TE Tanner Koziol, Ball State
TE Treyton Welch, Wyoming
OL Justin Osborne, SMU
OL Ethan Crowe, Ball State
OL Khalil Crowder, Georgia Southern
OL Cade Bennett, San Diego State
OL Canaan Yarro, New Mexico State
AP Kimani Vidal, Troy

Third Team Defense
DL Richard Jibunor, Troy
DL Evan Anderson, FAU
DL Praise Amaewhule, UTEP
DL DeVonte O'Malley, NIU
DL Elijah Chatman, SMU
LB Jamal Ligon, UTSA
LB J.T. Killen, Coastal Carolina
LB Marques Watson-Trent, Georgia Southern
LB Donovan Manuel, FIU
LB Cody Moon, San Diego State
CB Cam Stone, Hawaii
DB Marcus Fuqua, Buffalo
DB Jarius Monroe, Tulane
DB Donte Kent, Central Michigan
CB Cam Lockridge, Fresno State

Third Team Special Teams
K Alex McNulty, Buffalo
P Dom Dzioban, Miami (Ohio)
RS Milan Tucker, Appalachian State

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/22/2023 9:47:25 PM

Ball State: Two tight ends and a tackle make the first three teams. Will the Cardinals have a power offense and wear down MAC defenses?

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/23/2023 11:08:01 AM

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

Last Edited: 7/23/2023 11:08:57 AM by colobobcat66

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/23/2023 11:15:45 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

Given that this is a completely irrelevant award to begin with, does it really matter if they "cheapen" it by awarding 15 instead of 11? At best it's just something to read during the off-season to keep interest up. The takeaway here is that there are only a couple Ohio players even mentioned on this list at all (Wiglusz, Wilburn), so Ohio players need to go out and make a point this fall that they should be included in the real, post-season awards.

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/23/2023 12:44:17 PM

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

Yeah, I mostly posted to see if I could get some discussion started. I've been trying for the past few days. I was able to listen to a lot of the media day stuff and didn't get many comments.

We are six weeks from the start of the season and have a MAC contender. It feels like the football board would have been more active under those circumstances before the pandemic.

I gather from the first place votes in the poll that there probably weren't very many people voting for these awards. I was a little surprised that we didn't have a tad more representation. Some guys like Amburgey and Titsworth that we don't talk so much about but are lucky to have or the starting linebackers that Albin is so high on didn't make it. I don't know enough about the people on the list to argue at all. I'm not surprised Rourke isn't on it as I know the other guys are quality and not coming off of an injury.

Last Edited: 7/23/2023 12:53:01 PM by Victory

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/23/2023 3:42:42 PM

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

You probably like the name Big 10 with however many teams it has now. Just kidding.

It�s does matter if it�s to have any meaning whatsoever. I guess they�re trying to give lots of players awards/ kind of carrying on the everybody gets a ribbon philosophy to some degree.

Besides, I guess I�m just old fashioned and like some order and things that make sense in my life, not just everything being chaotic and nonsensical.

Last Edited: 7/23/2023 4:00:05 PM by colobobcat66

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/23/2023 4:39:24 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

No Bangura on even the third team? Calling BS on the poll.

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/24/2023 3:28:13 PM

greencat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

I don�t understand why these kinds of polls have more than 11 players on each �team�. Why have 15 members of the first team and second team defense? Sorts of cheapens the award to me.

No Bangura on even the third team? Calling BS on the poll.

I was surprised by that as well. Especially with 2 RB's on each team I figured he'd be a lock on 2nd team at least.

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/24/2023 4:06:33 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

You probably like the name Big 10 with however many teams it has now. Just kidding.
....

Of course. I always make a point of calling them the Big 10, rather than B1G, to show that they can't count.

colobobcat66 wrote:

It�s does matter if it�s to have any meaning whatsoever. I guess they�re trying to give lots of players awards/ kind of carrying on the everybody gets a ribbon philosophy to some degree.

Besides, I guess I�m just old fashioned and like some order and things that make sense in my life, not just everything being chaotic and nonsensical.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out the flipside; as a pointless preseason blog post, it doesn't have any meaning whatsoever anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/24/2023 5:32:32 PM

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

You probably like the name Big 10 with however many teams it has now. Just kidding.
....

Of course. I always make a point of calling them the Big 10, rather than B1G, to show that they can't count.

colobobcat66 wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out the flipside; as a pointless preseason blog post, it doesn't have any meaning whatsoever anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

So why is this whole thread even here?

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/24/2023 5:42:22 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

You probably like the name Big 10 with however many teams it has now. Just kidding.
....

Of course. I always make a point of calling them the Big 10, rather than B1G, to show that they can't count.

colobobcat66 wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out the flipside; as a pointless preseason blog post, it doesn't have any meaning whatsoever anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

So why is this whole thread even here?

That, indeed, is the question. I put it right up there with the basketball "golf" thread and the basketball "Mid Major" poll thread.

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/25/2023 10:10:15 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

So why is this whole thread even here?

Because, when there is nothing meaningful to talk about, and people are bored, waiting for the season to start, the discussion turns to anything and nothing?

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/25/2023 11:22:19 AM

Where is Kurtis Rourke?

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/25/2023 11:35:28 AM

Bobcatzblitz wrote:

Where is Kurtis Rourke?

About a week ago he was at the Father-Son Banquet at Christ Community Wesleyan Church in Albany.

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/25/2023 1:17:55 PM

Bobcatzblitz wrote:

Where is Kurtis Rourke?

Was my initial thought as well, but those other guys you really can't argue with.

Harris is my biggest gripe, honestly. And they gave him 1st team. He's a fun player, but he really got exposed in that bowl game last year, probably why he came back for his 7th year. His running numbers aren't crazy - at least not enough to overlook his passing numbers, which are still decent, but not better than Reed/Mcall and/or Rourke.

Reed had nearly 5,000 yards passing and 40 TD.

McCall had a Rourke-like season. He's a very nice player. Career 77 TD to just EIGHT INT.

Last Edited: 7/25/2023 1:18:43 PM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Hero Sports G5 rankings

Posted: 7/25/2023 3:19:44 PM

Looking at ESPN QBR numbers for the various QBs
https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr

#13 Frank Harris, UTSA: 80.6 overall, 100.9 passing
#44 Grayson McCall, Coastal Carolina: 67.7 overall, 62.9 passing
#46 Austin Reed, W. Kentucky: 66.2 overall, 74.9 passing

By comparision:
#26 Kurtis Rourke: 73.6 overall, 80.7 passing

He certainly ought to be in the top 3 (if this rating mattered....)

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