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Fletch1804
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  Message Not Read  What's wrong with our Defense?
   Posted: 10/1/2022 8:02:54 PM 
Obviously something isn't working because we are getting shredded every week. Is it a lack of talent? Bad coaching? Does anyone have Jimmmy Burrow's number?

Last Edited: 10/1/2022 8:03:10 PM by Fletch1804
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   Posted: 10/1/2022 8:12:44 PM 
Fletch1804 wrote:
Obviously something isn't working because we are getting shredded every week. Is it a lack of talent? Bad coaching? Does anyone have Jimmmy Burrow's number?


When you’re dead last in defense in the country in so many categories, you have to think it’s multiple problems. I believe we have quite a few good to very good players, so I don’t think it’s just lack of talent. Since I don’t slam players, I’ll lay it at the coaches feet.

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   Posted: 10/1/2022 8:36:53 PM 
Not really joking here but this may be an all time worst in FBS history for passing defense through 5 games...

FAU - 364
Penn State - 338
Iowa State - 300
Fordham - 503
Kent State - 398

Giving up 500+ passing yards to an FCS team and then 735 total yards against Kent State...I'm sorry something needs to change, someone has to go. We clearly don't have the talent. It's quite sad and truly embarrassing.

Let me say it again, 735 total yards to Kent State, Cooper with 240 rushing, Cephas with 246 yards receiving...come on, these are video game numbers.
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   Posted: 10/2/2022 12:32:00 AM 
At some point the players gotta have some pride and get some stops.
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   Posted: 10/2/2022 8:00:43 AM 
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I believe we have quite a few good to very good players, so I don’t think it’s just lack of talent.



Really? I think our lack of talent explains the problem.

As to Jimmy Burrow, you must be forgetting his last 1-2 defensive squads, which had horrendous secondary play. There was one year (2017?) when I believe we gave up bombs for TDs on the first play of consecutive games, including Kent. I hadn't even found my seat before we were down 7-zip.

One definite problem on D is #8. He was playing flag football yesterday -- tapped a couple of receivers after their catches rather than tackling them. One went for 40 yards after his contact yesterday. He did the same thing against Penn State; the running back scampered 40ish yards along the sideline for a TD.

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   Posted: 10/2/2022 8:16:16 AM 
After week 5 (stating the obvious)

Defense...Last in FBS in Total yards per game at 577.8
Defense...Last in FBS in Total passing yards per game at 380.6

Quite impressive that the bottom three in passing defense are Ohio, BGSU, and Northern Illinois. Should be fun games LOL

Last Edited: 10/2/2022 8:16:49 AM by RufusCat09
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  Message Not Read  RE: What's wrong with our Defense?
   Posted: 10/2/2022 9:23:56 AM 
SBH wrote:
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I believe we have quite a few good to very good players, so I don’t think it’s just lack of talent.



Really? I think our lack of talent explains the problem.

As to Jimmy Burrow, you must be forgetting his last 1-2 defensive squads, which had horrendous secondary play. There was one year (2017?) when I believe we gave up bombs for TDs on the first play of consecutive games, including Kent. I hadn't even found my seat before we were down 7-zip.

One definite problem on D is #8. He was playing flag football yesterday -- tapped a couple of receivers after their catches rather than tackling them. One went for 40 yards after his contact yesterday. He did the same thing against Penn State; the running back scampered 40ish yards along the sideline for a TD.


I disagree. Of course we don’t have a team of 4 and 5 stars and we never had. We have enough talent to be a lot better than we are. That falls on the coaches to get them prepared, develop them, play the right players, have good game plans, schemes etc. I don’t think that’s happening.
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   Posted: 10/2/2022 12:13:14 PM 
We can't rely on our offense to score enough points to win games.
Wee ks ago it appeared that we had 2 fazes of the game that were weak links; special teams and defense. Now that we have seemed to correct the specials teams only the defense needs to be worked on and worked on fast.
Without the D playing better and being consistent the chances of a winning season is remote.




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   Posted: 10/2/2022 1:50:40 PM 
Different coaches different schemes same results. It is lack of good players.poor tackling and technique and way too many big plays.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 9:25:06 AM 

Casper71 wrote:
Different coaches different schemes same results. It is lack of good players.poor tackling and technique and way too many big plays.

Therein lies the problem, this is definitely not the "same results".

2022 (Nowinsky):
Scoring Defense: 42.0 points/game
Total Defense: 578 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 538)
Rushing Defense: 197 yards/game
Passing Defense: 381 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 336)

2021 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 30.3 points/game
Total Defense: 433 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 194 yards/game
Passing Defense: 239 yards/game

2019 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 26.5 points/game
Total Defense: 404 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 167 yards/game
Passing Defense: 237 yards/game

2018 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.6 points/game
Total Defense: 391 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 137 yards/game
Passing Defense: 254 yards/game

2017 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.2 points/game
Total Defense: 372 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 111 yards/game
Passing Defense: 261 yards/game

Taking some averages
                   Points     TotYds      RushYds    PassYds
Nowinsky    42.0         578            194            381
Collins         28.4         418            152            238
Burrow         24.4        382            124            257
 

Last Edited: 10/3/2022 9:27:40 AM by L.C.

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  Message Not Read  RE: What's wrong with our Defense?
   Posted: 10/3/2022 10:54:27 AM 
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.

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   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:11:20 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
Different coaches different schemes same results. It is lack of good players.poor tackling and technique and way too many big plays.

Therein lies the problem, this is definitely not the "same results".

2022 (Nowinsky):
Scoring Defense: 42.0 points/game
Total Defense: 578 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 538)
Rushing Defense: 197 yards/game
Passing Defense: 381 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 336)

2021 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 30.3 points/game
Total Defense: 433 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 194 yards/game
Passing Defense: 239 yards/game

2019 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 26.5 points/game
Total Defense: 404 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 167 yards/game
Passing Defense: 237 yards/game

2018 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.6 points/game
Total Defense: 391 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 137 yards/game
Passing Defense: 254 yards/game

2017 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.2 points/game
Total Defense: 372 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 111 yards/game
Passing Defense: 261 yards/game

Taking some averages
Points TotYds RushYds PassYds
Nowinsky 42.0 578 194 381
Collins 28.4 418 152 238
Burrow 24.4 382 124 257


This is like comparing apples to Oranges. The Bobcats have played Penn State, Iowa State, Fordham's pass-happy offense and Kent's traditionally strong offense. I didn't mention Florida Atlantic which is averaging about 28 pts per in the games it played against all other teams. I'm not saying that 2022 is better, but after mixing in Bowling Green, Akron, etc. and it likely won't be much different from 2021.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:13:13 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:24:34 AM 
BryanHall wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
Different coaches different schemes same results. It is lack of good players.poor tackling and technique and way too many big plays.

Therein lies the problem, this is definitely not the "same results".

2022 (Nowinsky):
Scoring Defense: 42.0 points/game
Total Defense: 578 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 538)
Rushing Defense: 197 yards/game
Passing Defense: 381 yards/game (2d worst in the country is 336)

2021 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 30.3 points/game
Total Defense: 433 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 194 yards/game
Passing Defense: 239 yards/game

2019 (Collins):
Scoring Defense: 26.5 points/game
Total Defense: 404 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 167 yards/game
Passing Defense: 237 yards/game

2018 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.6 points/game
Total Defense: 391 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 137 yards/game
Passing Defense: 254 yards/game

2017 (Burrow):
Scoring Defense: 24.2 points/game
Total Defense: 372 yards/game
Rushing Defense: 111 yards/game
Passing Defense: 261 yards/game

Taking some averages
Points TotYds RushYds PassYds
Nowinsky 42.0 578 194 381
Collins 28.4 418 152 238
Burrow 24.4 382 124 257


This is like comparing apples to Oranges. The Bobcats have played Penn State, Iowa State, Fordham's pass-happy offense and Kent's traditionally strong offense. I didn't mention Florida Atlantic which is averaging about 28 pts per in the games it played against all other teams. I'm not saying that 2022 is better, but after mixing in Bowling Green, Akron, etc. and it likely won't be much different from 2021.


The overall game has evolved pretty quickly too. Very rarely is anyone going to be run heavy outside of option teams or big heavies like Wisconsin and Iowa. The majority of college football is running some version of a spread, pass heavy offense.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:55:15 AM 
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?


You are saying he was the only option availabe? If so, that would speak volumes about the state of OHIO football.

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   Posted: 10/3/2022 12:59:41 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
The overall game has evolved pretty quickly too. Very rarely is anyone going to be run heavy outside of option teams or big heavies like Wisconsin and Iowa. The majority of college football is running some version of a spread, pass heavy offense.

Comparing Nowinsky to Burrow:
Rushing yards given up +56%
Passing yards given up +48%
The rushing defense has regressed more than the pass defense.

BryanHall wrote:
This is like comparing apples to Oranges. The Bobcats have played Penn State, Iowa State, Fordham's pass-happy offense and Kent's traditionally strong offense. I didn't mention Florida Atlantic which is averaging about 28 pts per in the games it played against all other teams. I'm not saying that 2022 is better, but after mixing in Bowling Green, Akron, etc. and it likely won't be much different from 2021.

There is some truth to that, but that comes far from explaining the difference. When was the last time Ohio gave up over 700 yards in a game? When was the last time that Ohio was dead last in the country in total defense, with no one even close?

I certainly hope that the defense can pull together and improve as the year progresses, or else it will be a very long year. I don't have much hope, however, that they can improve enough to get the stats even comparable to prior years. To do so, they need to give up only 16 points a game and 311 yards a game the rest of the way. If they were to accomplish that, Ohio would probably win the MAC, so I hope they do, but I don't expect it.

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   Posted: 10/3/2022 3:47:29 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?


You are saying he was the only option availabe? If so, that would speak volumes about the state of OHIO football.


I'm asking what your option was. You implied that there was a better idea. I'm typically in the hire a young guy trying to make his mark camp--but that is boom or bust. I'd look at FCS guys. However, on paper this didn't look like a bad move at all. In the end it may not be a bad hire. It just doesn't look good after 5 games.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 6:07:07 PM 
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?


You are saying he was the only option availabe? If so, that would speak volumes about the state of OHIO football.


I'm asking what your option was. You implied that there was a better idea. I'm typically in the hire a young guy trying to make his mark camp--but that is boom or bust. I'd look at FCS guys. However, on paper this didn't look like a bad move at all. In the end it may not be a bad hire. It just doesn't look good after 5 games.


My business is not hiring DCs. I haven't the foggiest idea who I'd recommend, but it seems clear to me that after five games we have a good idea that the guy we hired might not have been a stellar move. Now, if we turn things around the remainder of the season, and go to a bowl game, i'll be happy to eat crow, but for now I'm thinking that whoever Martin hired as his replacement is probably better.

Hmm . . . just checked and Miami stayed in house and promoted this guy:
https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/...

When we meet Miami will see how the new DC stacks up against our Miami-retreads.

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   Posted: 10/3/2022 7:42:03 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?


You are saying he was the only option availabe? If so, that would speak volumes about the state of OHIO football.


I'm asking what your option was. You implied that there was a better idea. I'm typically in the hire a young guy trying to make his mark camp--but that is boom or bust. I'd look at FCS guys. However, on paper this didn't look like a bad move at all. In the end it may not be a bad hire. It just doesn't look good after 5 games.


My business is not hiring DCs. I haven't the foggiest idea who I'd recommend, but it seems clear to me that after five games we have a good idea that the guy we hired might not have been a stellar move. Now, if we turn things around the remainder of the season, and go to a bowl game, i'll be happy to eat crow, but for now I'm thinking that whoever Martin hired as his replacement is probably better.

Hmm . . . just checked and Miami stayed in house and promoted this guy:
https://miamiredhawks.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/...

When we meet Miami will see how the new DC stacks up against our Miami-retreads.


Even if Miami had a better defense I don't think you can draw many conclusions. Miami would be playing with players Nowinski recruited and Ohio wouldn't. I'm pretty sure Miami had a better defense than us last year. The one thing that is clear to me is that the defense is not particularly talented no matter who is coaching.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 10:08:12 PM 
Tackling fundamentals, throw out any sort of zone defense and stick to man-to-man, and increase time in the weight room. Whether it be on defense or offense, the Bobcats need to stop being cute and exploit the other team's weakness. Against Kent State, their linebackers were dropping like flies due to injuries and we should have gotten after them.
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:47:36 PM 
RufusCat09 wrote:
Not really joking here but this may be an all time worst in FBS history for passing defense through 5 games...

FAU - 364
Penn State - 338
Iowa State - 300
Fordham - 503
Kent State - 398

Giving up 500+ passing yards to an FCS team and then 735 total yards against Kent State...I'm sorry something needs to change, someone has to go. We clearly don't have the talent. It's quite sad and truly embarrassing.

Let me say it again, 735 total yards to Kent State, Cooper with 240 rushing, Cephas with 246 yards receiving...come on, these are video game numbers.


The 240 rushing an 240 yard WR the very FIRST time that has happened in FBS History.

I’ve said it here before this team was 3-8 last yr, cannot expect much. Also said play your players Earlier then someone called me a parent. It’s a mindset, it’s a nicey nice program. U need dawgs. I’m here originally to follow 4 new guys Vakos Williams Hankins Brawley, all from my neck of the woods, now this team got me reeled in. V is V then 2 of the 3 cats the played better teams in high school and Cleveland Heights produces college players. Now u seeing Adonis in an making plays, better than older cats, Austin got in late and be crazy if he don’t play this week Is probably give up on OU he is a player and CJ maybe the best tackler on that team damn sure more instinctive and one those guys that changes a team just by effort and physicality. Then again, this team doing the same things and expecting different results. Fact is u need players and same players playin gonna get u same result is just what it is.

Conclusion this team d soft like tissue paper, Keye, Weaver only dogs u got on D. May sneak in a win this week vs another soft ass team

O can get it done. Was at game, only thing they need to throw out is the ass backwards early. Run McCormick N/S don’t stretch him, then ran Bangura in 10 hole, seemed lil backwards few times. But that O is real deal, Bostic needs touches somehow someway.
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:13:12 AM 
SBH wrote:
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I believe we have quite a few good to very good players, so I don’t think it’s just lack of talent.



Really? I think our lack of talent explains the problem.

As to Jimmy Burrow, you must be forgetting his last 1-2 defensive squads, which had horrendous secondary play. There was one year (2017?) when I believe we gave up bombs for TDs on the first play of consecutive games, including Kent. I hadn't even found my seat before we were down 7-zip.

One definite problem on D is #8. He was playing flag football yesterday -- tapped a couple of receivers after their catches rather than tackling them. One went for 40 yards after his contact yesterday. He did the same thing against Penn State; the running back scampered 40ish yards along the sideline for a TD.


Exactly!!!!! People seem to forget how bad recruiting has been under the Solich direction. And as bad as some do not want to acknowledge, it's the Bob's and the Joe's not the X's and O's.
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:14:37 AM 
BryanHall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I remember a number of posters during the preseason were praising the Nowinsky hire as a brilliant move on TA's part. For a time, I bought into this malarky and I told a friend of mine, who is an ardent OHIO fan and attends every home game and some road games, that the "intellgensia of bobcatattack.com are saying that our defense should be markedly improved this fall because of the new defensive coordinator and the new scheme he's putting in." Needless to say, I've heard him say several times now, with a huge amount of sarcasm directed at yours truly, "Where's this great new defense you were talking about." I guess that the answer is that Coach Martin is getting the last laugh, and BA has egg all over it's collective faces, mine especially, for buying into this drivel.


What was your alternative to the Nowinsky hire?


I'm sure he's got a good one in mind!
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  Message Not Read  RE: What's wrong with our Defense?
   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:17:44 AM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
SBH wrote:
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I believe we have quite a few good to very good players, so I don’t think it’s just lack of talent.



Really? I think our lack of talent explains the problem.

As to Jimmy Burrow, you must be forgetting his last 1-2 defensive squads, which had horrendous secondary play. There was one year (2017?) when I believe we gave up bombs for TDs on the first play of consecutive games, including Kent. I hadn't even found my seat before we were down 7-zip.

One definite problem on D is #8. He was playing flag football yesterday -- tapped a couple of receivers after their catches rather than tackling them. One went for 40 yards after his contact yesterday. He did the same thing against Penn State; the running back scampered 40ish yards along the sideline for a TD.


I disagree. Of course we don’t have a team of 4 and 5 stars and we never had. We have enough talent to be a lot better than we are. That falls on the coaches to get them prepared, develop them, play the right players, have good game plans, schemes etc. I don’t think that’s happening.


I am curious as to what you base this "talent" on? Our recruiting classes?
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  Message Not Read  RE: What's wrong with our Defense?
   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:19:35 AM 
Maddog13 wrote:
Tackling fundamentals, throw out any sort of zone defense and stick to man-to-man, and increase time in the weight room. Whether it be on defense or offense, the Bobcats need to stop being cute and exploit the other team's weakness. Against Kent State, their linebackers were dropping like flies due to injuries and we should have gotten after them.



Hmmm, when you can't stop the run, playing straight Man to Man is a bad idea. But o.k.
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