Welcome Guest!
Create an Account
login email:
password:
site searchwhere to watchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp
Message Board

BobcatAttack.com Message Board
Ohio Football
Topic:  12 Team Playoff Approved

Topic:  12 Team Playoff Approved
Author
Message
Andrew Ruck
General User



Member Since: 12/22/2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 4,882

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 3:24:29 PM 
Approved for 2026 but are pushing to move it up to 2024. Says "six highest ranked conference champions" and 6 at-large.


Andrew Ruck
B.B.A. 2003

Back to Top
  
Andrew Ruck
General User



Member Since: 12/22/2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 4,882

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 3:34:49 PM 
On the "top 6 conference champions" note...could this provide a potential entry to a dominant MAC team if the power conferences consolidate down to 4 mega conferences and/or there are lots of conference championship upsets.


Andrew Ruck
B.B.A. 2003

Back to Top
  
shabamon
General User



Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,436

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 4:06:17 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
On the "top 6 conference champions" note...could this provide a potential entry to a dominant MAC team if the power conferences consolidate down to 4 mega conferences and/or there are lots of conference championship upsets.


Could be, but I'm still not impressed. Any system that does not reward all conference champions with a seat at the table is insufficient
Back to Top
  
Kevin Finnegan
General User

Member Since: 2/4/2005
Location: Rockton, IL
Post Count: 1,115

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 4:39:42 PM 
I'm impressed in the sense that it gives every team a chance...to an extent. Previously, if you went 12-0 in the MAC, it didn't still give you a chance at winning the national championship, only getting to a better bowl. Now, it's likely that any undefeated season will make it into the playoffs. That's all you can ask for if you're a little guy. Wonder if this might dissuade some mid-major teams from scheduling the biggest of big dogs. They'll be trying to get Nebraska, West Virginia, Texas Tech, etc. rather than Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson.
Back to Top
  
spongeBOB CATpants
General User



Member Since: 8/16/2016
Post Count: 989

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 4:49:11 PM 
I think I would prefer an 8 team format if not all conferences are represented.

Also in favor for a separate playoff for G5 schools.
Back to Top
  
Casper71
General User

Member Since: 12/1/2006
Post Count: 2,932

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 5:30:48 PM 
Just saw a “look back” with this format using 12 teams and only one MAC team (WMU) would have made it in the last 6-7 years. So, I say this format is of little to no value for the MAC.
Back to Top
  
Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,310

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/2/2022 6:20:55 PM 
So basically one G5 champ is guaranteed to be in, and some years there might be two. Rarely would more get in, especially with Cincy, Houston and UCF moving to the B12. A likely trade-off will be no guaranteed G5 slot in the NY6 bowl games, unless early-round losers are seeded into some NY6 games. I guess that's one of the things to be worked out.

It might also affect some of those early ESPN-concocted bowl games. They might be moved, eliminated, or become host games for early-round playoff games.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

Back to Top
  
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
General User

Member Since: 7/30/2010
Post Count: 3,491

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/3/2022 9:57:29 AM 
What's the over/under on how many times the MAC was mentioned during the course of the negotiations about this? 3? 5?

Back to Top
  
SouthernCat
General User

Member Since: 1/3/2005
Post Count: 164

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/3/2022 1:36:32 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
What's the over/under on how many times the MAC was mentioned during the course of the negotiations about this? 3? 5?



1
Back to Top
  
BillyTheCat
General User

Member Since: 10/6/2012
Post Count: 9,808

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/4/2022 1:06:18 AM 
shabamon wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
On the "top 6 conference champions" note...could this provide a potential entry to a dominant MAC team if the power conferences consolidate down to 4 mega conferences and/or there are lots of conference championship upsets.


Could be, but I'm still not impressed. Any system that does not reward all conference champions with a seat at the table is insufficient


Football is a fundamentally different sport than all the others. And how many games you want these kids to play?
Back to Top
  
Andrew Ruck
General User



Member Since: 12/22/2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 4,882

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/7/2022 10:25:25 AM 
Casper71 wrote:
Just saw a “look back” with this format using 12 teams and only one MAC team (WMU) would have made it in the last 6-7 years. So, I say this format is of little to no value for the MAC.


Just the fact that there is a single scenario where a MAC team, or other programs like it, makes the playoff...is more than I ever expected. I actually think it is a creative setup to carve out 6 conference champions to give the non-P5 a chance. And like I said, if the big boys continue consolidating it may be the P4 before long meaning 2 non-power slots.


Andrew Ruck
B.B.A. 2003

Back to Top
  
shabamon
General User



Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,436

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/7/2022 10:57:03 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
On the "top 6 conference champions" note...could this provide a potential entry to a dominant MAC team if the power conferences consolidate down to 4 mega conferences and/or there are lots of conference championship upsets.


Could be, but I'm still not impressed. Any system that does not reward all conference champions with a seat at the table is insufficient


Football is a fundamentally different sport than all the others. And how many games you want these kids to play?


If you want to win the high school state championship in Ohio, you have to play 16 games. If you want to win the FCS championship, you have to play 15 or 16 games. If you want to win the Super Bowl, you have to play 20 or 21 games.

My ideal playoffs would be 12 teams, top four seed byes, with all conference champions represented and two at-large bids. That's four rounds. Throw that on top of a 12 game regular season and a conference championship game, that's 17 games max and would only be accomplished by a bottom eight seed that played in its conference championship game advancing to the national title game. That doesn't sound like a far reach to me.
Back to Top
  
Pataskala
General User

Member Since: 7/8/2010
Location: At least six feet away from anybody else
Post Count: 9,310

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/7/2022 11:21:34 AM 
shabamon wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
On the "top 6 conference champions" note...could this provide a potential entry to a dominant MAC team if the power conferences consolidate down to 4 mega conferences and/or there are lots of conference championship upsets.


Could be, but I'm still not impressed. Any system that does not reward all conference champions with a seat at the table is insufficient


Football is a fundamentally different sport than all the others. And how many games you want these kids to play?


If you want to win the high school state championship in Ohio, you have to play 16 games. If you want to win the FCS championship, you have to play 15 or 16 games. If you want to win the Super Bowl, you have to play 20 or 21 games.

My ideal playoffs would be 12 teams, top four seed byes, with all conference champions represented and two at-large bids. That's four rounds. Throw that on top of a 12 game regular season and a conference championship game, that's 17 games max and would only be accomplished by a bottom eight seed that played in its conference championship game advancing to the national title game. That doesn't sound like a far reach to me.


I don't think the "P"s would ever limit themselves to only two at-large bids. Too many top-10 "P"s would be left out in favor of G5 teams. Under the current proposal, "P"s would have ten or eleven teams in the playoff most years. They probably couldn't stand to have fewer than that.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

Back to Top
  
OhioCatFan
General User



Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,169

Status: Offline

  Message Not Read  RE: 12 Team Playoff Approved
   Posted: 9/7/2022 9:39:07 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
Just saw a “look back” with this format using 12 teams and only one MAC team (WMU) would have made it in the last 6-7 years. So, I say this format is of little to no value for the MAC.


Just the fact that there is a single scenario where a MAC team, or other programs like it, makes the playoff...is more than I ever expected. I actually think it is a creative setup to carve out 6 conference champions to give the non-P5 a chance. And like I said, if the big boys continue consolidating it may be the P4 before long meaning 2 non-power slots.


It looks to me like were are headed for the P2 (B1G & SEC), the SP3 (Semi-Power3, B12, PAC12, and ACC), and then the G5.


The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

Back to Top
  
Showing Replies:  1 - 14  of 14 Posts
Jump to Page:  1
View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             







Copyright ©2024 BobcatAttack.com. All rights reserved.  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use
Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties