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OUVan
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Posted: 3/7/2017 12:03 PM
How many MAC teams play after this week?

NCAA - Whomever wins the MAC Tourney

NIT - Akron if they lose this week. Nobody else has a shot.

CBI, CIT, Vegas 16 - Ohio, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent St

Western and Toledo are possibles but I would label them as unlikely.


Not sure if the Vegas 16 is still around but saw an article from last year that said it would return. The lack of updates since last year gives me pause however as to it's survival.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 12:22 PM
When was the last time the MAC didn't get a team in the NIT? I know Akron is the only team guaranteed a spot if it doesn't go to the NCAA, but it seems like we usually get another team in instead when the regular season champ gets taken off the board. Then again, if there was ever a year for that to not happen, the rest of the league's resumes this year might make that a real possibility.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 12:30 PM
CMU is only 16-16, BUT Marcus Keene is a draw for eyes on the tube and butts in the seats. I wouldn't rule them out for Vegas, if it's still around.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 1:00 PM
Tom Valentino wrote:expand_more
When was the last time the MAC didn't get a team in the NIT? I know Akron is the only team guaranteed a spot if it doesn't go to the NCAA, but it seems like we usually get another team in instead when the regular season champ gets taken off the board. Then again, if there was ever a year for that to not happen, the rest of the league's resumes this year might make that a real possibility.
I looked back as far as 2000 and they all did. However since they added the auto bids in 2007, the only At-Large NIT bids were 2014 Toledo (6 seed, 27-6) , 2013 Ohio (6 seed 24-9) & 2008 Akron (6 seed 23-10).

Incidentally, the last MAC team to win a game in the NIT was Kent State in 2011.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:08 PM
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:11 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Any other MAC team winning the conference tourney will likely be a 15 or 16 seed. Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
The 12 or 13 seeds that play in Dayton are the last at-large teams into the field, so this wouldn't apply to Akron or any MAC team.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:17 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Any other MAC team winning the conference tourney will likely be a 15 or 16 seed. Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
The 12 or 13 seeds that play in Dayton are the last at-large teams into the field, so this wouldn't apply to Akron or any MAC team.
It depends on how many conference champs show up in the group. They might be forced to put a conference champ if there are three of the six, unless they shift it all to 12 seeds or have one 12 and one 13.

Nevertheless, the MAC likely isn't going to have higher than a 13 seed this year, and could be a lot lower depending on who wins.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:32 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Any other MAC team winning the conference tourney will likely be a 15 or 16 seed. Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
The 12 or 13 seeds that play in Dayton are the last at-large teams into the field, so this wouldn't apply to Akron or any MAC team.
It depends on how many conference champs show up in the group. They might be forced to put a conference champ if there are three of the six, unless they shift it all to 12 seeds or have one 12 and one 13.

Nevertheless, the MAC likely isn't going to have higher than a 13 seed this year, and could be a lot lower depending on who wins.
They will group the last 2 pairs of at-large teams on the same seed line. A conference champ / auto bid will not be in the play-in games unless its the 4 lowest (16 seeds).

Edit: The last 4 at-large seeds / play in games were for 11 seeds the last two years and one game for an 11 seed / one game for a 12 seed in 2014.
Last Edited: 3/7/2017 3:38:10 PM by Eagle66
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Posted: 3/7/2017 6:23 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Any other MAC team winning the conference tourney will likely be a 15 or 16 seed. Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
The 12 or 13 seeds that play in Dayton are the last at-large teams into the field, so this wouldn't apply to Akron or any MAC team.
It depends on how many conference champs show up in the group. They might be forced to put a conference champ if there are three of the six, unless they shift it all to 12 seeds or have one 12 and one 13.

Nevertheless, the MAC likely isn't going to have higher than a 13 seed this year, and could be a lot lower depending on who wins.
You are still confused. The 12/13 seeds that play in Dayton are all at-large teams. The only conference champs that play in a play-in games are 16 seeds.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 6:32 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Here's a thought: If Akron wins the MAC tourney, they would likely come in as a #13 seed and might have to play a "First Four" game in Dayton. There are six 13 seeds, with four playing at Dayton. Based solely on RPI, at the moment the six would be Vermont, Houston, Princeton, Providence, Georgia and Akron. Three of the six would be conference tourney champs (Vermont, Princeton and Akron), so at least one conference tourney champ would play at Dayton. Akron has the worst RPI of both groups.

Ohio and Buffalo might squeeze in at 14, depending on what happens in other conference tourneys.
Princeton won the regular season. For the first time in history, the Ivy has a conference championship made up of the top four teams. Princeton plays Penn and Harvard plays former OU assistant coach James Jones' Yale Bulldogs with all games in the Palestra. That would be a fun show to see.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 7:41 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Princeton won the regular season. For the first time in history, the Ivy has a conference championship made up of the top four teams. Princeton plays Penn and Harvard plays former OU assistant coach James Jones' Yale Bulldogs with all games in the Palestra. That would be a fun show to see.
I didn't realize that. I was wondering why they hadn't listed Princeton as in.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 8:46 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Princeton won the regular season. For the first time in history, the Ivy has a conference championship made up of the top four teams. Princeton plays Penn and Harvard plays former OU assistant coach James Jones' Yale Bulldogs with all games in the Palestra. That would be a fun show to see.
That would be a fantastic March roadtrip to see three games in two days at The Palestra. I just set my DVR.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 8:57 PM
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That would be a fantastic March roadtrip to see three games in two days at The Palestra. I just set my DVR.
I'd rather see 7 in Cleveland. ;)
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