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Topic: 2022 6'3" SG Elmore James IV (Cleveland Brush HS, OH) - Ohio Commit
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Posted: 3/7/2022 2:28 PM
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A thread on Yappi says he was handed a 10 day suspension for fighting in school.
Got the link???
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Posted: 3/7/2022 5:55 PM
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Posted: 3/7/2022 10:21 PM
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I wonder if after all of this, we really still want this kid. All we need is bad apple to poison the atmosphere. At this point, with all of our troubles, we seem to have good guys who get along together and who have good deportment.
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Posted: 3/7/2022 11:01 PM
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A thread on Yappi says he was handed a 10 day suspension for fighting in school.
Well....that's deflating if true. Every article you read on the kid, it seems completely out of character and his coach is one of the best in the business....preaching high character guys. Of course, we don't know the full story.
#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT #NoMissesAllowed #NoOtherTeamInAmericaFlexesLikeOhio #11Months
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Posted: 3/7/2022 11:30 PM
You guys don't know the details of this. I don't have a problem with recruiting a kid who isn't perfect. Even good people make mistakes. In fact, we could probably use more sandpaper in our program anyway. See you in Athens this summer, EJ IV. Will be glad to have you.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 12:05 AM
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You guys don't know the details of this. I don't have a problem with recruiting a kid who isn't perfect. Even good people make mistakes. In fact, we could probably use more sandpaper in our program anyway. See you in Athens this summer, EJ IV. Will be glad to have you.
Good take Jeff - Per the unknown details - and "sandpaper" analogy....

One Mr. Trent came here with a good bit of tough/hard life experiences and questionable history - OHIO was a great opportunity that he took Full advantage of and made the most of it. Highest grade "sandpaper" we have ever had. Hunter saw that opportunity and made the most of it. I have belief that Boal's will w/EJ IV as well....
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Posted: 3/8/2022 12:23 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
You guys don't know the details of this. I don't have a problem with recruiting a kid who isn't perfect. Even good people make mistakes. In fact, we could probably use more sandpaper in our program anyway. See you in Athens this summer, EJ IV. Will be glad to have you.
That's why I said completely out of character and we don't know the full story and probably will never know.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 8:03 AM
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http://yappi.com/forum/index.php?threads/mentor-vs-brush....
I wonder if after all of this, we really still want this kid. All we need is bad apple to poison the atmosphere. At this point, with all of our troubles, we seem to have good guys who get along together and who have good deportment.
How can you call this kid a bad apple? We don't know if he was defending someone who was being bullied or defending himself. Everyone is entitled to a mistake as long as they learn from them. I guarantee you this young man has learned from this and I expect him to be a great Bobcat. It's posts like this that poison the atmosphere.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 9:01 AM
What the $%^& is yappi?
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Posted: 3/8/2022 9:06 AM
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http://yappi.com/forum/index.php?threads/mentor-vs-brush....
I wonder if after all of this, we really still want this kid. All we need is bad apple to poison the atmosphere. At this point, with all of our troubles, we seem to have good guys who get along together and who have good deportment.
How can you call this kid a bad apple? We don't know if he was defending someone who was being bullied or defending himself. Everyone is entitled to a mistake as long as they learn from them. I guarantee you this young man has learned from this and I expect him to be a great Bobcat. It's posts like this that poison the atmosphere.
For my 2 cents, I'm not calling this kid a bad apple. I don't know much about him. I did want to note that Gary Trent was, by most definitions, a bad apple in his time on campus. It certainly seems like he grew quite a bit over the course of his life, and from some really terrible beginnings. My point is: bad apples exist, and to many different degrees. You've got to do something with them. Taking a flyer on one (whether in basketball, or at a job, or in a thousand other areas) and actively trying to improve/expand their lives isn't necessarily a bad thing. As far as basketball is concerned, sure you have to worry about the team dynamic, so I definitely don't advocate for 13 problem children. One or two, on the other hand, can be a risk worth taking. For the kid's sake, and for the team's sake. Again, not claiming this kids is, or will be a problem.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 9:10 AM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Ohio high school sports message board, with a little bit of college and pro talk. I believe some on this board are posters over there, perhaps with different usernames. Head over to the "Debate" forum sometime. It's a MAGA circle jerk.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 9:21 AM
I don't think there's a reason to worry about this kid if his absence is due to fighting, necessarily. It happens. It could be that Brush has a zero tolerance policy and/or he was fighting defensively. I also don't mind a little bit of that demeanor on my sports teams. Keep in mind, all of this getting to us is essentially hearsay.

A bad apple on a college team IMO would be someone who is involved with real criminal activity, slacks with school, and/or is noticeably defiant towards authority. I've seen nothing to suggest Elmore is any of those things.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 10:37 AM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
http://yappi.com/forum/index.php?threads/mentor-vs-brush....
I wonder if after all of this, we really still want this kid. All we need is bad apple to poison the atmosphere. At this point, with all of our troubles, we seem to have good guys who get along together and who have good deportment.
How can you call this kid a bad apple? We don't know if he was defending someone who was being bullied or defending himself. Everyone is entitled to a mistake as long as they learn from them. I guarantee you this young man has learned from this and I expect him to be a great Bobcat. It's posts like this that poison the atmosphere.
I didn't say he was a "bad apple." There was an implied "if" in that statement. What I meant was "If he is a bad apple, we don't need him." No, I don't know the full story. It may, as some have suggested, been a defensive kind of situation. Or, it may have been more minor than what it at first blush appears to be. I'll be completely comfortable with whatever Boals decides to do. I'm sure he'll find out the completely story and can make a reasonable decision. If the kid is just a little "sandpaper" that's fine, but if he would be a disrupter then that's another story completely.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 10:47 AM
Without any details, it's impossible to speculate too much. Overall, I trust that Boals is a good judge of character.
I've seen crazier things happen.
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Posted: 3/8/2022 11:53 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
What the $%^& is yappi?
Ohio high school sports message board, with a little bit of college and pro talk. I believe some on this board are posters over there, perhaps with different usernames. Head over to the "Debate" forum sometime. It's a MAGA circle jerk.
Last Edited: 3/9/2022 12:01:25 AM by FlashGary
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Posted: 3/10/2022 9:55 PM
I set near EJ and his father at the tournament game this evening. He and his dad were sporting their Ohio gear. I actually talked with him briefly. Seems like a very respectful young man. I think he will be fine next year.
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Posted: 3/10/2022 11:13 PM
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I set near EJ and his father at the tournament game this evening. He and his dad were sporting their Ohio gear. I actually talked with him briefly. Seems like a very respectful young man. I think he will be fine next year.
Saw he made a post on IG that he was there! So excited for him to come in next year. Hope he enjoyed the game tonight!
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Posted: 3/10/2022 11:15 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
What the $%^& is yappi?
Ohio high school sports message board, with a little bit of college and pro talk. I believe some on this board are posters over there, perhaps with different usernames. Head over to the "Debate" forum sometime. It's a MAGA circle jerk.
The college basketball board seems to have a Ohio fan or two
I've seen crazier things happen.
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Posted: 3/11/2022 9:24 AM
I have complete faith in Jeff's ability to research what kind of young man E.J. is, and he will not make mistakes when it comes to judging character.
I do not know any of the details that led to this school suspension, but you can bet that Jeff will know exactly what happened.

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Posted: 3/11/2022 9:36 AM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
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Posted: 3/13/2022 8:45 PM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
Well darn I've never heard of it and had zero interest in it, but given the above take it sounds like I need to sign up for this ASAP
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Posted: 3/13/2022 10:05 PM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
Well darn I've never heard of it and had zero interest in it, but given the above take it sounds like I need to sign up for this ASAP
Elmore has snagged the Northeast Ohio Division 1 POTY and is now the all time leading scorer at Brush! 24.4 PPG!!!! Legit shot at Ohio Mr. Basketball.
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Posted: 3/13/2022 11:39 PM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
Well darn I've never heard of it and had zero interest in it, but given the above take it sounds like I need to sign up for this ASAP
Elmore has snagged the Northeast Ohio Division 1 POTY and is now the all time leading scorer at Brush! 24.4 PPG!!!! Legit shot at Ohio Mr. Basketball.
Good news . . . thanks for the report.
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Posted: 3/29/2022 3:56 PM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
Well darn I've never heard of it and had zero interest in it, but given the above take it sounds like I need to sign up for this ASAP
Elmore has snagged the Northeast Ohio Division 1 POTY and is now the all time leading scorer at Brush! 24.4 PPG!!!! Legit shot at Ohio Mr. Basketball.
Good news . . . thanks for the report.
All Ohio first team...congrats!
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Posted: 3/29/2022 5:14 PM
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What the $%^& is yappi?
Total trash is what yappi is.
Well darn I've never heard of it and had zero interest in it, but given the above take it sounds like I need to sign up for this ASAP
Elmore has snagged the Northeast Ohio Division 1 POTY and is now the all time leading scorer at Brush! 24.4 PPG!!!! Legit shot at Ohio Mr. Basketball.
Good news . . . thanks for the report.
All Ohio first team...congrats!
Huge news! Crossing my fingers he can make an impact next year
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