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Posted: 7/1/2019 12:07 AM
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Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
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Posted: 7/1/2019 8:24 AM
Jerry86 wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.
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Posted: 7/1/2019 11:21 AM
Is this the equivalent of rage tweeting? Good lord...
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Posted: 7/1/2019 11:57 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.

I really don’t know if there is a positive correlation for cheerleading and basketball, I know that the they have cheerleading competitions, but they don’t have a national signing day and they don’t drive revenue like division 1 basketball. I think the rebuttal was directed at Jerry who says he played ball at a high level.
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Posted: 7/1/2019 5:47 PM
Get your popcorn ready everyone. This one's gonna be a doozy!
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Posted: 7/3/2019 12:15 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.
LOL. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Reality is it was NOT you being recruited.
Last Edited: 7/3/2019 12:17:59 AM by Jerry86
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Posted: 7/3/2019 10:23 AM
Jerry86 wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.
LOL. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Reality is it was NOT you being recruited.
No it wasn’t me, but I’ve had a lot of personal experience, both inside and outside the process. Your attitude that since no one else here was actually recruited then we know nothing is laughable. My comments on this matter were simply fact, the process begins years out with a wide net that is then narrowed down. But at the end of the day, I do not need you to validate my career or knowledge of college athletics, a field that today I still work in.
Last Edited: 7/3/2019 10:27:03 AM by BillyTheCat
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Posted: 7/3/2019 2:49 PM
6 more offers tweeted today for 2020. The offers keep coming
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Posted: 7/4/2019 7:40 PM
FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE! I don't know who they'll be, but it really appears that we're going to get a couple of really good ballers!!! I don't foresee us having to "settle" for marginal Division I or high Division II players; that's for sure!
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Posted: 7/5/2019 12:51 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.
LOL. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Reality is it was NOT you being recruited.
No it wasn’t me, but I’ve had a lot of personal experience, both inside and outside the process. Your attitude that since no one else here was actually recruited then we know nothing is laughable. My comments on this matter were simply fact, the process begins years out with a wide net that is then narrowed down. But at the end of the day, I do not need you to validate my career or knowledge of college athletics, a field that today I still work in.
Thank you for validating my point. I guess that is as close to "I was wrong as you'll ever get". Get in the last word, as you always must. I'll not reply. I wish we had an IGNORE feature here. Go back, and READ, and comprehend ALL of your posts here. Comprehend your condescending attitudes in many of those posts. Mature, and realize many people know, as much, if not more than you do.
Last Edited: 7/5/2019 12:53:04 AM by Jerry86
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Posted: 7/5/2019 8:31 AM
Jerry86 wrote:expand_more
Also, another thing to consider: it seemed like the previous regime was playing their cards closer to the vest than Boals and Co. Some of the SP recruits we wouldn't find out about until they actually committed or a few days prior to committing. They could have had a lot more offers out there than had been reported. Or their strategy was way different.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread. The Saul, and even the JC staffs both seemed to keep things closer to the vest, while Boals' staff has the approach of letting everyone know who they're offering. I'm not sure which approach might be better until we see a few more recruiting classes.
Going out on a limb that Saul and company’s strategy failed miserably.
And we'll know if Boals failed in a couple years. Offering a lot early has a big downside. Guessing you were never recruited for D1 ball.
Someone is still pouting! You cast a wide net early and narrow or it narrows as ithe process unfolds. Each year, aside from offers, you will begin with a hundred plus contacts and evaluations and each year you knock that list down. You may want to move on Jerry.
Trust me, I played ball at a higher level than you did. Who's pouting? Instead I am disappointed in the immature posters who supposedly have degrees from Ohio acting like Saul was a ZERO. Grow up to those it applies to ... I can names names but I wont. It's obvious from reading posts.
Overly sensitive today? No one is acting like Saul was a zero, those are your words. Saul is a great person, good coach, he’s proven that at other places, just did not work out here. And no one really cares about your glory days. Tim O’Shea played high level ball too, man that really translated well.

Your drivel is just that .. drivel. And you played ball where? Read your prior post .. and if able to comprehend then message me back. You know zilch about college basketball recruiting, perhaps because you were never recruited.
I’ve been through the DI recruiting process dozens of times, from the Big10, SEC to the MAC, nice try though sunshine.
LOL. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world. Reality is it was NOT you being recruited.
No it wasn’t me, but I’ve had a lot of personal experience, both inside and outside the process. Your attitude that since no one else here was actually recruited then we know nothing is laughable. My comments on this matter were simply fact, the process begins years out with a wide net that is then narrowed down. But at the end of the day, I do not need you to validate my career or knowledge of college athletics, a field that today I still work in.
Thank you for validating my point. I guess that is as close to "I was wrong as you'll ever get". Get in the last word, as you always must. I'll not reply. I wish we had an IGNORE feature here. Go back, and READ, and comprehend ALL of your posts here. Comprehend your condescending attitudes in many of those posts. Mature, and realize many people know, as much, if not more than you do.
I’m not wrong, I simply stated I was never recruited to play DI basketball, that makes me a lesser person in your eyes so be it. Again, been involved in the Collegiate game for 30 years now in one form or another. The fact is all coaches cast a wide net, but instead of disputing facts, you’d rather degrade others. That’s fine, most on here understand that about you.
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Posted: 7/8/2019 11:36 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Get your popcorn ready everyone. This one's gonna be a doozy!
Looks like it's more than a one bucket of popcorn show here. ;)
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Posted: 7/16/2019 8:32 AM
3 more 2020 offers this week,
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Posted: 7/17/2019 6:25 PM
You offer a unique perspective to this board from your background. Playing and/or being recruited at D1 is not a prerequisite to recruiting or just having an informed opinion on the subject. After all, if that was true, Coach Saul should not have been allowed to recruit coming from his experience only playing at D3. And Coach Boals was recruited by large programs.

I am optimistic for the Bobcats. Boals has proven he can recruit, especially during his years with that team up the road. I don't think many coaches could have done what he has in such a short period of time.
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Posted: 7/18/2019 2:56 PM
I can't read all the quoted posts...it makes me dizzy.
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Posted: 7/18/2019 3:57 PM
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I can't read all the quoted posts...it makes me dizzy.
I did read them. Now my head hurts.
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Posted: 8/7/2019 4:27 PM
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Along those same lines, I am told by people I trust that Ohio State's offer to Dominque Penn at Dublin Coffman has all but been withdrawn.
Surprising considering his dad, Scoonie Penn, is a former osu standout and on the current coaching staff.
Starting to make a little more sense as Scoonie just left the o$u coaching staff for the Memphis Grizzlies'. Word is that his son will not play for Dublin Coffman this upcoming season.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:35 PM
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Along those same lines, I am told by people I trust that Ohio State's offer to Dominque Penn at Dublin Coffman has all but been withdrawn.
Surprising considering his dad, Scoonie Penn, is a former osu standout and on the current coaching staff.
Starting to make a little more sense as Scoonie just left the o$u coaching staff for the Memphis Grizzlies'. Word is that his son will not play for Dublin Coffman this upcoming season.
Can confirm from my friends at OSU that it is indeed the case.
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Posted: 11/21/2020 1:16 PM
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IMO, where they failed was retaining the likes of Ryan Taylor, Zach Butler, and Jaaron Simmons. They also failed to get that one kid, or two kids, who would have been difference makers from day one - someone like Desmond Bane, Isaiah Maurice, Jayvon Graves, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Cannady.
Haliburton and Bane both drafted in the first round of this week's NBA draft. Haliburton 11th and Bane 30th.
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IMO, where they failed was retaining the likes of Ryan Taylor, Zach Butler, and Jaaron Simmons. They also failed to get that one kid, or two kids, who would have been difference makers from day one - someone like Desmond Bane, Isaiah Maurice, Jayvon Graves, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Cannady.
Haliburton and Bane both drafted in the first round of this week's NBA draft. Haliburton 11th and Bane 30th.
OU Country nailed that one.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:24 PM
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IMO, where they failed was retaining the likes of Ryan Taylor, Zach Butler, and Jaaron Simmons. They also failed to get that one kid, or two kids, who would have been difference makers from day one - someone like Desmond Bane, Isaiah Maurice, Jayvon Graves, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Cannady.
Haliburton and Bane both drafted in the first round of this week's NBA draft. Haliburton 11th and Bane 30th.
OU Country nailed that one.
Haliburton getting early mentions as possible rookie of the year. Bane has hit at least one 3 pointer in the first 6 games of his career, second most ever in the NBA.
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IMO, where they failed was retaining the likes of Ryan Taylor, Zach Butler, and Jaaron Simmons. They also failed to get that one kid, or two kids, who would have been difference makers from day one - someone like Desmond Bane, Isaiah Maurice, Jayvon Graves, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Cannady.
Haliburton and Bane both drafted in the first round of this week's NBA draft. Haliburton 11th and Bane 30th.
OU Country nailed that one.
The Blind Squirrel found the acorn on this one. :)


Who could have seen Haliburton being THIS good? Not me. Really good, yes. NBA good? No.
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I remember being really excited about Haliburton and somewhat confident we had a chance to land him with Saul's Wisconsin connections. He is from the same town all my extended family is from.
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I remember being really excited about Haliburton and somewhat confident we had a chance to land him with Saul's Wisconsin connections. He is from the same town all my extended family is from.
Before summer after his junior year hit, we were 1/2 with Northern Iowa. He blew up and the rest is history.
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IMO, where they failed was retaining the likes of Ryan Taylor, Zach Butler, and Jaaron Simmons. They also failed to get that one kid, or two kids, who would have been difference makers from day one - someone like Desmond Bane, Isaiah Maurice, Jayvon Graves, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Cannady.
Haliburton and Bane both drafted in the first round of this week's NBA draft. Haliburton 11th and Bane 30th.
OU Country nailed that one.
Haliburton getting early mentions as possible rookie of the year. Bane has hit at least one 3 pointer in the first 6 games of his career, second most ever in the NBA.
Haliburton averaging 14 pts and 7 rebs for Kings.

Bane at 17.5 ppg while becoming one of the league's top sharpshooters for the surging Memphis Grizzlies.
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