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Mike Coleman
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Posted: 12/9/2024 12:40 PM
Last year, 2,690 FBS players (according to On3) entered the transfer portal. This year, there is expected to be more.

However, at the same time FBS schools will be cutting their rosters by an estimated 2,800 due to the new roster limit. Michigan, for example, will have to cut 31 spots.

It’s more complicated than that, because at the same time, available scholarships will rise from 85 to 105.

It will really be the wild west.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:39 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
Last year, 2,690 FBS players (according to On3) entered the transfer portal. This year, there is expected to be more.

However, at the same time FBS schools will be cutting their rosters by an estimated 2,800 due to the new roster limit. Michigan, for example, will have to cut 31 spots.

It’s more complicated than that, because at the same time, available scholarships will rise from 85 to 105.

It will really be the wild west.
Correct Mike, but I believe a better wording is “Potentially 105”, not sure all schools have committed to the new level. They can also give partial aide if they want to. I am pretty sure we have not publicly released what we are actually doing. Though, I do know what we are not doing.
Last Edited: 12/9/2024 1:40:41 PM by BillyTheCat
Mike Coleman
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Posted: 12/9/2024 1:57 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Last year, 2,690 FBS players (according to On3) entered the transfer portal. This year, there is expected to be more.

However, at the same time FBS schools will be cutting their rosters by an estimated 2,800 due to the new roster limit. Michigan, for example, will have to cut 31 spots.

It’s more complicated than that, because at the same time, available scholarships will rise from 85 to 105.

It will really be the wild west.
Correct Mike, but I believe a better wording is “Potentially 105”, not sure all schools have committed to the new level. They can also give partial aide if they want to. I am pretty sure we have not publicly released what we are actually doing. Though, I do know what we are not doing.
Lol, you're right. I can see a lot of last-minute calls to the AD, “But there’s this guy…”
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:14 PM
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus
Mike Coleman
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:36 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
You’re point is valid but your numbers are off a bit. The average roster size is reportedly 128, which means 134 schools will have to trim 23 spots, which is more than 3,000. But I have been told in-season attrition puts it around 2,800.

Many will be walk-ons who could choose to stay at their school instead of moving elsewhere.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:44 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
You’re point is valid but your numbers are off a bit. The average roster size is reportedly 128, which means 134 schools will have to trim 23 spots, which is more than 3,000. But I have been told in-season attrition puts it around 2,800.

Many will be walk-ons who could choose to stay at their school instead of moving elsewhere.
I’ve seen the same numbers Mike
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Posted: 12/9/2024 3:47 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
You’re point is valid but your numbers are off a bit. The average roster size is reportedly 128, which means 134 schools will have to trim 23 spots, which is more than 3,000. But I have been told in-season attrition puts it around 2,800.

Many will be walk-ons who could choose to stay at their school instead of moving elsewhere.

I had no idea rosters were that big. That's a lot of people who will be out of the game. Choosing to stay at their school will not save some - there will be many who are told that there is no longer any room for them on the roster. They may try to portal, but many will find no offers.

The sad thing is, why couldn't they have waited one more year? I believe that this is the last year when people on the roster will have Covid years, so after 2025, there will be a double attrition, as people who entered college football in both 2020 and 2021 will use up their eligibility at the same time, which will leave extra spaces.
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Mike Coleman
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Posted: 12/9/2024 4:17 PM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
You’re point is valid but your numbers are off a bit. The average roster size is reportedly 128, which means 134 schools will have to trim 23 spots, which is more than 3,000. But I have been told in-season attrition puts it around 2,800.

Many will be walk-ons who could choose to stay at their school instead of moving elsewhere.

I had no idea rosters were that big. That's a lot of people who will be out of the game. Choosing to stay at their school will not save some - there will be many who are told that there is no longer any room for them on the roster. They may try to portal, but many will find no offers.

The sad thing is, why couldn't they have waited one more year? I believe that this is the last year when people on the roster will have Covid years, so after 2025, there will be a double attrition, as people who entered college football in both 2020 and 2021 will use up their eligibility at the same time, which will leave extra spaces.
There will also have to be many decisions to made on personnel. How many kickers, etc. to keep.

I hear stuff about not needing this many players, but when a NFL long snapper or punter gets hurt, you go out and sign a free agent. In college, you can't, so you rely on a walk on. Now are some of these schools going to be keeping 3 kickers anymore? All on scholarship? Will be interesting how staffs sort through this.
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Posted: 12/9/2024 4:34 PM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
There are 134 FBS schools now, and if they have an average roster size of 110, the drop to 105 means 670 less people will be playing next year than this year. There will also be new Freshmen, players from Juco, and players moving up from FCS and Division II, and those players will more than exceed the players having used up their eligibility. Thus, some number of players will be left without a home.
You’re point is valid but your numbers are off a bit. The average roster size is reportedly 128, which means 134 schools will have to trim 23 spots, which is more than 3,000. But I have been told in-season attrition puts it around 2,800.

Many will be walk-ons who could choose to stay at their school instead of moving elsewhere.

I had no idea rosters were that big. That's a lot of people who will be out of the game. Choosing to stay at their school will not save some - there will be many who are told that there is no longer any room for them on the roster. They may try to portal, but many will find no offers.

The sad thing is, why couldn't they have waited one more year? I believe that this is the last year when people on the roster will have Covid years, so after 2025, there will be a double attrition, as people who entered college football in both 2020 and 2021 will use up their eligibility at the same time, which will leave extra spaces.
There will also have to be many decisions to made on personnel. How many kickers, etc. to keep.

I hear stuff about not needing this many players, but when a NFL long snapper or punter gets hurt, you go out and sign a free agent. In college, you can't, so you rely on a walk on. Now are some of these schools going to be keeping 3 kickers anymore? All on scholarship? Will be interesting how staffs sort through this.
And NFL LS is also more than likely a reserve at another position.
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