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Posted: 10/21/2021 7:50 PM
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Mark my words. After Kent wins, you'll see a noticeable drop in engagement from the players paving the way to 1-11. 1-3 in the MAC all but eliminates any hope of a miraculous turnaround.
Mark my words. After Kent wins, OhioBobcat will come on here and let us know how close the Bobcats are from being undefeated in MAC play and that we still have a shot at Detroit.
I was wrong. OhioBobcat didn't even wait until after Saturday's game to come on here with his green koolaid ramblings about OUr Bobcats.
Ohio has beaten Kent State 6 straight times. I'll start believing Kent State can actually beat Ohio the day they do it, which hasn't happened in years. An Ohio win here would not only put Ohio in a tie with the East favorite, it would also essentially put them ahead of Kent State as they'd also own the head-to-head tiebreaker.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 9:04 PM
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. . . If Ohio was getting throttled by MAC teams like say, how Kent State did last week to WMU, then I could understand the skepticism. But they're not, they're in every single game with a chance to win.
I believe you are mixing up the throttlee and throttler here.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 10:16 PM
I have 2 GA tickets available for Saturday. PM me if you're interested.

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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:13 AM
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I said last week I thought Ohio could beat Buffalo and Kent State, and OU more than proved it could beat UB and should have won that game. Take the offsides away on the final kick and OU wins it. Period. I came away very impressed with how close this team is to turning it around. This team is much, much better than what its record indicates. And it's about to show.

After seeing Kent State get simply obliterated last week, I feel even better about Ohio beating Kent State. The Golden Flashes have looked nothing like the predicted East champs they were picked to be. Yes, they had a tough non-conference schedule, but they barely got past a bad BG team - at home - and they looked awful last week. They have also been destroyed coming out of halftime the last two games, allowing 28 third quarter points to Buffalo and 27 third quarter points to WMU in back-to-back weeks. That's beyond terrible. Oh yeah, and there's the fact that they simply haven't been able to beat Ohio as they've lost 6....SIX....straight to the Bobcats. The bottom line is, Kent State simply can't find a way to beat Ohio. The proof has been in the pudding for years now.

Ohio "could" be 3-0 in the MAC. Kent State can't say that. What's more, if and when Ohio does beat Kent State, Ohio will pull even in the MAC East with the preseason East favorite and would own the head-to-head tie breaker. Think about that for a minute. Ohio still completely controls its own destiny, and has shown me a ton in its three MAC games this season. I believe they can beat anyone in the MAC, and they've already shown they can in the games they've played. Kent State's defense doesn't stand a chance against Ohio's running game and Ohio's defense will keep their offense under control as a couple other MAC teams have done. I think Saturday is going to make a lot of doubters start to believe in what this team is capable of doing, and that run is about to get started on Saturday. Watch and see.
This is simply embarrassing. No one in their right mind that has watched this team can think they're anything more than the 1-6 team they are.

Mark my words. After Kent wins, you'll see a noticeable drop in engagement from the players paving the way to 1-11. 1-3 in the MAC all but eliminates any hope of a miraculous turnaround.

Playing in empty stadiums on cold week nights ... with a 1-7 team ... "televised" on the internet. Yep. This is only going to get worse.

I'll be curious if Ohio ever recovers from the decision to hire Albin.
You're going to be very surprised come late Saturday afternoon. Ohio has been in EVERY conference game for the last 6 years. It has won a lot of those games, a number of them in blowout fashion, and yet has never been beaten by more than 7 by any....ANY.....conference foe. Which means, Ohio has been in EVERY single MAC game over the past 6 years - including this season. I'm willing to bet there are less than 5 teams in the country (including Ohio) that can say the same. If Ohio was getting throttled by MAC teams like say, how Kent State did last week to WMU, then I could understand the skepticism. But they're not, they're in every single game with a chance to win.

Losing by less than 7.

That's what we're building our program on.

Good sales pitch.

That'll get the fans excited.

How many MAC titles in that 6 year span? Title game appearances?

I love we've lowered our standards from winning a MAC title to just losing by less than 7.
Last Edited: 10/22/2021 12:18:07 AM by bshot44
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Posted: 10/22/2021 10:41 AM
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I said last week I thought Ohio could beat Buffalo and Kent State, and OU more than proved it could beat UB and should have won that game. Take the offsides away on the final kick and OU wins it. Period. I came away very impressed with how close this team is to turning it around. This team is much, much better than what its record indicates. And it's about to show.

After seeing Kent State get simply obliterated last week, I feel even better about Ohio beating Kent State. The Golden Flashes have looked nothing like the predicted East champs they were picked to be. Yes, they had a tough non-conference schedule, but they barely got past a bad BG team - at home - and they looked awful last week. They have also been destroyed coming out of halftime the last two games, allowing 28 third quarter points to Buffalo and 27 third quarter points to WMU in back-to-back weeks. That's beyond terrible. Oh yeah, and there's the fact that they simply haven't been able to beat Ohio as they've lost 6....SIX....straight to the Bobcats. The bottom line is, Kent State simply can't find a way to beat Ohio. The proof has been in the pudding for years now.

Ohio "could" be 3-0 in the MAC. Kent State can't say that. What's more, if and when Ohio does beat Kent State, Ohio will pull even in the MAC East with the preseason East favorite and would own the head-to-head tie breaker. Think about that for a minute. Ohio still completely controls its own destiny, and has shown me a ton in its three MAC games this season. I believe they can beat anyone in the MAC, and they've already shown they can in the games they've played. Kent State's defense doesn't stand a chance against Ohio's running game and Ohio's defense will keep their offense under control as a couple other MAC teams have done. I think Saturday is going to make a lot of doubters start to believe in what this team is capable of doing, and that run is about to get started on Saturday. Watch and see.
This is simply embarrassing. No one in their right mind that has watched this team can think they're anything more than the 1-6 team they are.

Mark my words. After Kent wins, you'll see a noticeable drop in engagement from the players paving the way to 1-11. 1-3 in the MAC all but eliminates any hope of a miraculous turnaround.

Playing in empty stadiums on cold week nights ... with a 1-7 team ... "televised" on the internet. Yep. This is only going to get worse.

I'll be curious if Ohio ever recovers from the decision to hire Albin.
You're going to be very surprised come late Saturday afternoon. Ohio has been in EVERY conference game for the last 6 years. It has won a lot of those games, a number of them in blowout fashion, and yet has never been beaten by more than 7 by any....ANY.....conference foe. Which means, Ohio has been in EVERY single MAC game over the past 6 years - including this season. I'm willing to bet there are less than 5 teams in the country (including Ohio) that can say the same. If Ohio was getting throttled by MAC teams like say, how Kent State did last week to WMU, then I could understand the skepticism. But they're not, they're in every single game with a chance to win.

Losing by less than 7.

That's what we're building our program on.

Good sales pitch.

That'll get the fans excited.

How many MAC titles in that 6 year span? Title game appearances?

I love we've lowered our standards from winning a MAC title to just losing by less than 7.
And the little twist added this season is that we're beating ourselves by making stupid mistakes in key situations. It started with the Duquesne game with the safety. Same situation as the previous week vs Syracuse. Same situation, run the same play, get the same result. Without the safety there would've been no need to go for two on the last TD and we likely would've won.

Fast forward to MAC games. Three minutes to go vs CMU. After an incomplete pass we have a 4th and 2 at our own 33 with plans to go for it. Then somebody on the sideline who's not in game uniform starts MFing the ref over not calling pass interference. Nobody shuts him up and we get an unsportsmanlike penalty that forces a punt. We never get the ball back.

Three seconds left vs Buffalo. They miss a FG, but one of our guys jumps offside and they get a second chance from five yds closer with no time left. They make it. The punch line here is that even if they had missed it they would've gotten a THIRD chance because we were offside again.

It used to be that teams would have to beat us in close games. Now we're beating ourselves. It comes down to problems with discipline, organization and communication, something that hasn't been an issue with Ohio football for years.
We will get by.
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We will get by.
We will survive.

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Posted: 10/22/2021 11:28 AM
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And the little twist added this season is that we're beating ourselves by making stupid mistakes in key situations. It started with the Duquesne game with the safety. Same situation as the previous week vs Syracuse. Same situation, run the same play, get the same result. Without the safety there would've been no need to go for two on the last TD and we likely would've won.

Fast forward to MAC games. Three minutes to go vs CMU. After an incomplete pass we have a 4th and 2 at our own 33 with plans to go for it. Then somebody on the sideline who's not in game uniform starts MFing the ref over not calling pass interference. Nobody shuts him up and we get an unsportsmanlike penalty that forces a punt. We never get the ball back.

Three seconds left vs Buffalo. They miss a FG, but one of our guys jumps offside and they get a second chance from five yds closer with no time left. They make it. The punch line here is that even if they had missed it they would've gotten a THIRD chance because we were offside again.

It used to be that teams would have to beat us in close games. Now we're beating ourselves. It comes down to problems with discipline, organization and communication, something that hasn't been an issue with Ohio football for years.
You certainly surmarized the state of affairs quite well. And, there's probably at least one more game this season we could have won with better coaching. Syracuse comes to mind. The total yards stats were pretty close (384-346), and we actually won time of possession. However, we settled for FGs and they got TDs. I think if Rogers had started and played the whole game some of those drives would not have stalled. Bottom line, as you so aptly described, our coaching is suboptimal.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 3:54 PM
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Mark my words. After Kent wins, you'll see a noticeable drop in engagement from the players paving the way to 1-11. 1-3 in the MAC all but eliminates any hope of a miraculous turnaround.
Mark my words. After Kent wins, OhioBobcat will come on here and let us know how close the Bobcats are from being undefeated in MAC play and that we still have a shot at Detroit.
I was wrong. OhioBobcat didn't even wait until after Saturday's game to come on here with his green koolaid ramblings about OUr Bobcats.
Ohio has beaten Kent State 6 straight times. I'll start believing Kent State can actually beat Ohio the day they do it, which hasn't happened in years. An Ohio win here would not only put Ohio in a tie with the East favorite, it would also essentially put them ahead of Kent State as they'd also own the head-to-head tiebreaker.
And prior to that Kent had won 4 out of 5 versus Ohio from 2009-13 and 5 of 7 from 2007-13. What's your point? Some of those where Ohio was heavily favored and Kent completely ruined Ohio's season.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 10:03 PM
Ohio has been one of the best teams in the MAC for the past decade. OU is right at the top of the list with the most MAC wins during that time, and over the last 6 years, has never been beaten by more than one score. That's incredible and is nearly unmatched by any other team in the nation. Meaning, Ohio has either beaten or battled down to the wire with every single conference foe it has faced. Nearly no other team in America is able to boast the same. And yet, people still want to complain. I don't understand it. Ohio is THE program for the model of consistency that our peers strive to try and be themselves. As "bad" as this year is for many, a win tomorrow over Kent State could put Ohio in first place. Come on guys...
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Posted: 10/22/2021 11:36 PM
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Ohio has been one of the best teams in the MAC for the past decade. OU is right at the top of the list with the most MAC wins during that time, and over the last 6 years, has never been beaten by more than one score. That's incredible and is nearly unmatched by any other team in the nation. Meaning, Ohio has either beaten or battled down to the wire with every single conference foe it has faced. Nearly no other team in America is able to boast the same. And yet, people still want to complain. I don't understand it. Ohio is THE program for the model of consistency that our peers strive to try and be themselves. As "bad" as this year is for many, a win tomorrow over Kent State could put Ohio in first place. Come on guys...
But all that was with a different head coach. Wake up to the fact that Frank Solich isn't running the show anymore.

And by the way, losing by less than a score is still losing. Remember the old adage that good teams win close games.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 11:40 PM
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Ohio has been one of the best teams in the MAC for the past decade. OU is right at the top of the list with the most MAC wins during that time, and over the last 6 years, has never been beaten by more than one score. That's incredible and is nearly unmatched by any other team in the nation. Meaning, Ohio has either beaten or battled down to the wire with every single conference foe it has faced. Nearly no other team in America is able to boast the same. And yet, people still want to complain. I don't understand it. Ohio is THE program for the model of consistency that our peers strive to try and be themselves. As "bad" as this year is for many, a win tomorrow over Kent State could put Ohio in first place. Come on guys...

Shut. Up.

How many MAC titles has this "model of consistency" won?

I guess that is the definition of consistency when you haven't won the league title in over a half century.

Can't wait to see your absurd reasoning after they get beat by Kent.

The blind over-the-top optimism would even make Ted Lasso roll his eyes
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Posted: 10/23/2021 7:41 AM
From my perspective our best chance for a W today is by forcing at least 3-4 turnovers. This is something we have not done so far this year so I don't hold much hope for victory today.
However HOPE IS ETERNAL




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Posted: 10/23/2021 10:16 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
From my perspective our best chance for a W today is by forcing at least 3-4 turnovers. This is something we have not done so far this year so I don't hold much hope for victory today.
However HOPE IS ETERNAL

GO BOBCATS
Or dominant running game with quick slant passes towards the middle with several to the TE. Run the clock and allow the Flashes fewer and long field opportunities

SMOKE KENT; KNOCK THE Flashes ON their ASHES
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Posted: 10/23/2021 10:25 AM
Well, the excitment I feel on this board towward today's clash of the titans is palatable. I do hold out a slim reed of hope that we can win this game. Hope springs eternal in the human breast . . . Go OHIO!
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Posted: 10/23/2021 11:08 AM
My question is will we get another sidelines penalty against a player or coach?

One game is enough.

Two games in a row is ridiculous.

Three will be ludicrous.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 11:11 AM
This is one where our pass rush might be the difference. Crum is one of the best QBs in the MAC, but last week WMU pressured him all afternoon. He was sacked five times and held to less than 60% passing. He's thrown only two INTs all year and none since the opener against TxA&M, so takeaways might be at a premium.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 11:19 AM
We should beat this team. We actually should beat every team in the MAC East this year. Together the teams in the MAC East have a combined 14-28 record. Think about that for a moment. The so-called top teams in the MAC East being Kent State, Miami and Buffalo are all 3-4, followed by Akron and BGSU with overall records of 2-5 each and then us. I keep saying that we are the worst division of any FBS conference. We really are the basement of FBS football and some on here instead of being upset or concerned are talking about moral victories that hey, we have only lost by 7 points or less so we are well on our way to becoming a powerhouse dynasty in all of FBS. Sorry, but I am tired of all the excuses that we have been using for far too long. I am not talking about competing for a national title, we can't even compete for our own conference title and have not for years. That is absolutely unacceptable.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:06 PM
Time to fulfill my weekly masochistic fantasy
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:15 PM
While I was excited to see Albin go for it. Izzy calling an inside zone after being shut down multiple times on the drive with that play concept is ridiculous.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:18 PM
Tackling still in JV form.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:18 PM
So it starts…crappy tackling!

You beat me by 14 seconds
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:26 PM
Why am I subjecting myself to this? I should go carve a pumpkin, maybe?
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:38 PM
First 3 offensive possessions:
1. Downs
2. Punt
3. Fumble

Off to a great start.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:40 PM
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Why am I subjecting myself to this? I should go carve a pumpkin, maybe?
There are better games on.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:43 PM
O line completely ineffective. Perhaps the worst I've seen this year thus far. Think about that for a second.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 1:54 PM
FUMBLE!!!!!
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