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Posted: 12/26/2025 4:23 PM
Lost 34-7 to the NW Mildcats and fumbled the ball all over the field, when they weren't throwing interceptions. This reminded me of a bowl loss that BG had a number of years ago when they could not hang on to the ball and lost something like 54-7. Worst performance by a MAC team in a bowl game since then that I can remember. NWs first three TDs were scored on consecutive possessions, each one starting inside the 25 after three consecutive turnovers. After a scoreless first quarter, NW scores these three TDs in something like five minutes. Just downright pathetic.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 5:11 PM
Brutal. I turned it on when it was 0-0 and watched Northwestern take a 21-0 lead. Embarrassing, especially since it looked like a nice home crowd for the Chips.
What a day at the Convo.....Wow!
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Posted: 12/26/2025 5:32 PM
The Chippewas got scalped.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 5:45 PM
Big difference in a power four team and a MAC school. However, Toledo hung tough with Louisville. More times than not, the MAC will not beat a power program
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Posted: 12/26/2025 6:18 PM
Our loss to Ball State was way more emabarassing.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 6:34 PM
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Our loss to Ball State was way more emabarassing.
Still not over it.

And them shutting down a 10-win UNLV team, which had scored 30+ in 12 games this season, and held them to their lowest total of the entire season - by ELEVEN. Wild.

The real MACC match-up was Western - OU. They robbed us of a good game. We robbed ourselves of a definitive chance.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 6:39 PM
Knew this was coming. Toledo or OU should have been playing this game instead. CMU should've faced Kennesaw or UNLV at most.

This isn't CMU's fault.....this is the MAC's fault. I get attendance and home crowd matter but the overall win in the Capital One Cup matters the most. It how others view our conference.

Hopefully next year they will take best competitor vs region and live a little. Might cost more but the win is more important in recruits and viewers eyes.

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Last Edited: 12/26/2025 6:42:48 PM by ExCat21
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Posted: 12/26/2025 6:46 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Our loss to Ball State was way more emabarassing.
Still not over it.

And them shutting down a 10-win UNLV team, which had scored 30+ in 12 games this season, and held them to their lowest total of the entire season - by ELEVEN. Wild.

The real MACC match-up was Western - OU. They robbed us of a good game. We robbed ourselves of a definitive chance.
We had a chance against WMU earlier in the season and couldn’t beat them.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 7:56 PM
I watched the first half. Not sure many teams come back from 3 straight TO's converted to 21 points.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 8:10 PM
CMU didn't defeat a single team with a winning record so not a big surprise.

W1 San Jose St (3-9)
W2 Wagner (5-7)
W3 Eastern Michigan (4-8)
W4 Bowling Green (4-8)
W5 UMass (0-12)
W6 Buffalo (5-7)
W7 Kent St (5-7)

CMU could have kept it a score closer 14-27 had they played better but I can't see a path to victory against a Big Ten team in a bowl game for a marginal bowl participant out of the MAC.
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Posted: 12/26/2025 8:13 PM
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. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
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Posted: 12/27/2025 12:14 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
Toledo played in the Detroit bowl game last season. No shock they didn't play in this same bowl again in 2025. BG played in that game the previous two seasons. Western Michigan played in the game in 2021. The date for the game is usually right after Christmas. Makes sense for schools closer to Detroit to be selected for that bowl game attendance wise. The bowl reported almost 28,000 in attendance.
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Posted: 12/27/2025 3:35 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
Toledo played in the Detroit bowl game last season. No shock they didn't play in this same bowl again in 2025. BG played in that game the previous two seasons. Western Michigan played in the game in 2021. The date for the game is usually right after Christmas. Makes sense for schools closer to Detroit to be selected for that bowl game attendance wise. The bowl reported almost 28,000 in attendance.
Are you saying that nothing could have been done to have had better MAC matchups in these bowl games? I personally don't believe that. I think the MACdaddies are in slumber mode as usual.
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Posted: 12/27/2025 8:50 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
Our loss to Ball State was way more emabarassing.
Still not over it.

And them shutting down a 10-win UNLV team, which had scored 30+ in 12 games this season, and held them to their lowest total of the entire season - by ELEVEN. Wild.

The real MACC match-up was Western - OU. They robbed us of a good game. We robbed ourselves of a definitive chance.
We had a chance against WMU earlier in the season and couldn’t beat them.
I get it.

I get the reasoning. But they put a team we beat and just got whacked to finish .500 over us.

So again - it’s nothing, but pain. We deserved it. And showed why. Deeply unfortunate season. 9 wins helps - but it should’ve been more.
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Posted: 12/27/2025 11:07 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Our loss to Ball State was way more emabarassing.
Still not over it.

And them shutting down a 10-win UNLV team, which had scored 30+ in 12 games this season, and held them to their lowest total of the entire season - by ELEVEN. Wild.

The real MACC match-up was Western - OU. They robbed us of a good game. We robbed ourselves of a definitive chance.
We had a chance against WMU earlier in the season and couldn’t beat them.
I get it.

I get the reasoning. But they put a team we beat and just got whacked to finish .500 over us.

So again - it’s nothing, but pain. We deserved it. And showed why. Deeply unfortunate season. 9 wins helps - but it should’ve been more.

I’ll take 9 wins with all our player losses after last year. We had areas of weakness, but we ended up closing most of those. Could have won more and could have lost more, a lot of close games. We won one game against a team with a winning record- UNLV.
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Posted: 12/27/2025 11:48 PM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
. . . We won one game against an FBS team with a winning record -- UNLV.
Corrected that for you!
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Posted: 12/28/2025 9:31 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . . We won one game against an FBS team with a winning record -- UNLV.
Corrected that for you!
I sure forgot that one, so sorry.
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Posted: 12/28/2025 7:05 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
Toledo played in the Detroit bowl game last season. No shock they didn't play in this same bowl again in 2025. BG played in that game the previous two seasons. Western Michigan played in the game in 2021. The date for the game is usually right after Christmas. Makes sense for schools closer to Detroit to be selected for that bowl game attendance wise. The bowl reported almost 28,000 in attendance.
Are you saying that nothing could have been done to have had better MAC matchups in these bowl games? I personally don't believe that. I think the MACdaddies are in slumber mode as usual.
OCF- it isn't always about "better matchups." Alot of horse trading for these bowls. Ohio University is not close to Detroit like a few of the other conference teams. Detroit is not an ideal spot for the Bobcats, especially with the day after Christmas date.
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Posted: 12/28/2025 11:48 PM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
Toledo played in the Detroit bowl game last season. No shock they didn't play in this same bowl again in 2025. BG played in that game the previous two seasons. Western Michigan played in the game in 2021. The date for the game is usually right after Christmas. Makes sense for schools closer to Detroit to be selected for that bowl game attendance wise. The bowl reported almost 28,000 in attendance.
Are you saying that nothing could have been done to have had better MAC matchups in these bowl games? I personally don't believe that. I think the MACdaddies are in slumber mode as usual.
OCF- it isn't always about "better matchups." Alot of horse trading for these bowls. Ohio University is not close to Detroit like a few of the other conference teams. Detroit is not an ideal spot for the Bobcats, especially with the day after Christmas date.
My point is that the MACDaddies are not good at this horse trading. Not just this year, but for many, many years.
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Posted: 12/29/2025 12:41 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
. . .

This is 4-1 or 3-2 minimum for bowl challenge standings if set up properly:
CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Toledo vs Fresno
Miami vs UNLV
OU vs NW
Exactly. Despite what 96 says, not all MAC teams are created equal. I would have had it only slightly different:

CMU vs Kennesaw
WMU vs Louisville
Miami vs Fresno
Ohio vs UNLV
Toledo vs NW

But, we are in the same ballpark, and either one our matchings would have been much better than what actually happened. This has become a pattern in recent years where our best teams do not get matched up with the best opposition.
Toledo played in the Detroit bowl game last season. No shock they didn't play in this same bowl again in 2025. BG played in that game the previous two seasons. Western Michigan played in the game in 2021. The date for the game is usually right after Christmas. Makes sense for schools closer to Detroit to be selected for that bowl game attendance wise. The bowl reported almost 28,000 in attendance.
Are you saying that nothing could have been done to have had better MAC matchups in these bowl games? I personally don't believe that. I think the MACdaddies are in slumber mode as usual.
OCF- it isn't always about "better matchups." Alot of horse trading for these bowls. Ohio University is not close to Detroit like a few of the other conference teams. Detroit is not an ideal spot for the Bobcats, especially with the day after Christmas date.
My point is that the MACDaddies are not good at this horse trading. Not just this year, but for many, many years.
OCF- I will give you the MAC office is not that competent. You are looking at a group that couldn't figure out a league schedule for years. Toledo and Miami went 12 seasons without playing one another in a conference football game. Thank you MAC office.
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Posted: 1/4/2026 4:16 PM
in the early to mid 90S central michigan was a very good team. there was atime when they beat michigan state. back then we were a losing team. what happened to central michigan over the years.?
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