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Topic: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

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Ted Thompson
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Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/17/2019 10:54:15 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related.

Date: February 19th, 2019 7:00 PM

Opponent: Buffalo (22-3, 10-2 MAC)

Site: Alumni Arena

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/17/2019 11:31:26 PM

UB 87
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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 12:27:46 AM

UB 93
Ohio 77

Nate shows mercy in Saul's final game against the Bulls in Buffalo? UB can name the final score.

Last Edited: 2/18/2019 9:05:42 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 1:16:49 AM

According to KenPom -

Buffalo is averaging 114.0 pts/100 possesions
Buffalo is allowing 94.5 pts/100 possesions
Buffalo is averaging 75.2 possession/40 minutes

Ohio is averaging 95.3 pts/100 possessions
Ohio is allowing 99.9 pts/100 possessions
Ohio is averaging 69.9 possessions/40 minutes

If everything plays according to "averages" then we'd have 72.55 possessions.
Buffalo would score (114.0+99.9 / 2) = 106.95 pts/100 poss = 1.0695 pts/poss
Ohio would score (94.5+95.3 / 2) = 94.90 pts/100 poss = 0.9490 pts/poss

Which means the final score SHOULD be:
Buffalo (1.0695*72.55) = 77.59
Ohio (0.9490*72.55) = 68.85

So call is Buffalo 78-69, though I tend to think we're not playing well now (versus our season "average") so it could be a little worse. Something like 80-63.

Last Edited: 2/18/2019 1:20:04 AM by GraffZ06

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 7:20:42 AM

8 of 18 from the charity stripe

TK has 7 turnovers

DT fouls out with 7 minutes remaining.

Murrell tries his luck without under armor.

Saul abandons the clown shoes.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 7:35:34 AM

SBH wrote:

8 of 18 from the charity stripe

TK has 7 turnovers

DT fouls out with 7 minutes remaining.

Murrell tries his luck without under armor.

Saul abandons the clown shoes.

I like these. I will raise you 32 points from Jayvon Graves who looks at the coaching staff each time he scores and says "I'm one of the ones who got away that you had no chance with. I am a microcosm of all of your recruiting!"

I saw someone asked Arkley on Saturday why James and Springs weren't playing. His answer: "They aren't as good as the guys ahead of them." What does that say about our talent level that two young guys are wasting away while we are in a 5-game losing streak with an inept offense? My guess is Saul knows he's out and is giving his seniors a chance to play it out while keeping the redshirts on so James and Springs can transfer.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 9:04:02 AM

The Good News: Buffalo has shown it will play down to its opponents, and with their up-tempo game, gives teams a lot of chances to score
The Bad News: Despite this, Buffalo is still a very good team AND at home. In addition, they can turn on the engines when they want to

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 9:17:19 AM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

SBH wrote:

8 of 18 from the charity stripe

TK has 7 turnovers

DT fouls out with 7 minutes remaining.

Murrell tries his luck without under armor.

Saul abandons the clown shoes.

I can understand Springs. 6'10'' players who are ready to go immediately don't grow on trees. Those that are ready don't often end up in the MAC or similar conferences. I'm okay with taking a flyer on a guy like that and hoping he can develop physically with a redshirt year. With James, that is telling. A kid who's in shape but can't get on the court when we only go eight deep on a losing team.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 9:44:30 AM

Great offense and so-so defense meets terrible offense and solid defense. I'll be interested to see how we defend this very athletic team.

But as has been discussed extensively...we are really bad at shooting. The #1 ingredient to any upset is deadly outside shooting.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 12:49:57 PM

It appears that there is almost zero chance that Ohio can beat Buffalo on Tuesday; of course, that is ridiculous, because there is always a chance that this could happen, unless, of course, the 'Cats decide to just stay home. I think that is what makes this game fascinating to me. Are the Bobcats really going to get schooled and then some, or is Buffalo at risk of getting caught sleeping?

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 5:12:52 PM

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 5:38:22 PM

Yes, at Purdue 2 months ago.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 5:47:49 PM

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

Not only recent memory, but perhaps history.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 6:45:30 PM

We are 19.5 pt. underdogs.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 7:43:49 PM

FearLeon wrote:

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

Not only recent memory, but perhaps history.

Kansas a few years back

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 7:54:40 PM

buffalo -20 is a lock.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 9:57:00 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

Not only recent memory, but perhaps history.

Kansas a few years back

I don�t remember playing them.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 10:08:22 PM

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

It's certainly the only MAC game I can remember where we have basically zero chance of winning. Maybe there were some in '97-'98 when we went 3-15 and lost by huge margins but I don't recall any.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 10:11:18 PM

So for all those �if we had Gollon and Dartis it would be a whole different story� apologists, what would you guess the spread would be if they were playing tomorrow night?

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 10:22:38 PM

CG maybe they would make a half-point difference. No more in fact I was surprised Vegas only has this at 19.5 pts. I thought this would open at 22pts at a minimum.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 10:32:31 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

Not only recent memory, but perhaps history.

Kansas a few years back

I was there. O'Shea let his team stand in the pre-game huddle and watch the legendary 60 second Kansas highlight video on the big screen before tip. Players eyes were as big as saucers. We were down by 37 before the ref even tossed the ball in the air. #ShockAndAwe

Last Edited: 2/18/2019 10:43:58 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 11:18:06 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Great offense and so-so defense meets terrible offense and solid defense. I'll be interested to see how we defend this very athletic team.

Saturday, in Michigan, giving up 87 to Central wouldn't be considered solid defense. Was that the new norm or just a one game aberration? Buffalo has to have a better offensive than Central which could mean a score in the high 80's of mid 90's.

As for any of us who think the Cats would be better with Darts, don't confuse that feeling as an excuse to protect the coach. There has to be a "cascade effect" when you lose a proven lethal three point threat. His release was so quick and stroke accurate. Would that not make the opponent put their best defender on him instead of on the guy they now defend? Wouldn't the extra help on Dartis leave another mate open. Wouldn't Carter be more effective? Wouldn't turnover and assist ratio improve when Dartis is on the floor, less turnovers and more BANGs. Wouldn't the free throw shooting be improved especially late in a game? His presence may indeed have marginal effect against a power like the Bulls but a Dartis on the floor and victories may have come in several other MAC games. As for Gollon, his Bobcat grade is incomplete--no way of knowing if the glimpses of him on the floor would have made any impact on the results of games vs Dartis the proven and consistent producer in his first two years here.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 11:25:28 PM

Chicken George wrote:

So for all those �if we had Gollon and Dartis it would be a whole different story� apologists, what would you guess the spread would be if they were playing tomorrow night?

+7.5

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/18/2019 11:58:33 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Chicken George wrote:

So for all those �if we had Gollon and Dartis it would be a whole different story� apologists, what would you guess the spread would be if they were playing tomorrow night?

+7.5

So your best guess is thatthose two guys move the line 12 points? Just for point of reference, Vegas oddsmakers last year had only four Tier I players. Tier I�s were guys that when they didn�t play, moved the line 5 points. No other guys could move the line more than 5 alone. Those 4 were Giannis, K. Leonard, Harden and Lebron.

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RE: Official Game 25 Thread: Buffalo

Posted: 2/19/2019 8:29:00 AM

The better Ohio Bobcat wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

ohiocatfan1 wrote:

I would be more than happy to eat crow on this but has there been a less winnable game for the Bobcats in recent memory?

Not only recent memory, but perhaps history.

Kansas a few years back

I don�t remember playing them.

That was such a beat down!

Last Edited: 2/19/2019 7:08:47 PM by BillyTheCat

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