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GoCats105
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2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/9/2018 3:46:46 PM

Let's get this thing going already.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2018

MAC Transfers OUT

Akron: Virshon Cotton, Torrey Patton, Eric Parrish

Ball State: Jontrell Walker

Bowling Green: Roderick Caldwell, Renell Cummings, Derek Koch

Buffalo: James Jones, James Reese, Ikenna Smart

Central Michigan: Gavin Peppers

Eastern Michigan: Jordan Nobles, Terry Harris

Kent State: Taishaun Johnson, Jonathan Nwankwo, Ryan Bernstein

Miami: Jake Wright, Darius Harper

Northern Illinois: Owen Hamilton, Justin Thomas, Marlo Brown

Ohio: Ellis Dozier, Zach Butler, AJ Gareri

Toledo: Dwayne Rose, Jr., Justin Roberts, Taylor Adway

Western Michigan: Reggie Jones, Jarrin Randall, Kyle McDermed

MAC Transfers IN

Akron: Xeryius Williams (from Dayton)

Ball State: Austin Nehls (from Central Connecticut), Miryne Thomas (from Maryland Eastern Shore)

Central Michigan: Larry Austin, Jr. (from Vanderbilt)

Eastern Michigan: Boubacar Toure (from Grand Canyon)

Miami: Aleks Abrams (from Cal Poly)

Toledo: Chris Darrington (from Tennessee)

Last Edited: 5/10/2018 7:51:08 AM by GoCats105

greencat
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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/9/2018 6:22:38 PM

Lees-McRae College gets a 6-7 shooting guard. OK...

That list is about to double in the next 48 hours, BTW. If Saul doesn't get a couple of guys leaving their schools but signed a guy who benched 120...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FeyZyg-zpK0/VfW5PUG-sZI/AAAAAAA...

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 9:20:23 AM

greencat wrote:

Of course you realize there are, as of this moment, no scholarships available. But since you say if with a fun little picture of a moving truck, then what? What's gonna happen?

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 10:46:38 AM

OU_Country wrote:

greencat wrote:

Of course you realize there are, as of this moment, no scholarships available. But since you say if with a fun little picture of a moving truck, then what? What's gonna happen?

It's just natural to think there might be some losses on the roster. We have lost at least one player in 5 of the last 6 off-seasons. It's the new landscape of college basketball.

The rest of his post is pretty stupid though. Who cares what a guy bench presses, he's a basketball player, not an offensive lineman.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 12:57:48 PM

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Who cares what a guy bench presses, he's a basketball player, not an offensive lineman.

We'll see how that works out.

Do some of you really want Ohio basketball to fall into the bottom 50 of the 351? That is what will happen after next season with the current recruiting trajectory. Taylor may not be a skilled big, but at least nobody is going to kick sand in his face.

Friendly wager on where Sands ends up in a couple of years. Denison? Rio Grande?

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 1:10:34 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Who cares what a guy bench presses, he's a basketball player, not an offensive lineman.

Spoken like someone who has never actually played the game. Yeah, because basketball isn't a physical sport or anything....nope. You don't need strength to maintain positioning. To shake a defender to get open. For defense. For boxing out and rebounding. For grabbing/maintaining possession of the basketball. Nah.

In fact I can't think of any high-major D1 players or NBA guys who focus on their body and the weight room to become ripped and physical specimens at all.

I mean, they aren't offensive linemen.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 2:00:32 PM

Yeah, and definitely nobody ever gets recruited based on their skill with an undersized body and room for growth in the strength department. I'm sure we won't have a training/strength program to get them to a D1 level. Let's keep focusing on brute strength coming out of high school. Because you certainly can't improve someone's diet or training regimen.

this is the dumbest argument ever. Bench press can be doubled in a year, probably less.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 2:05:10 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Who cares what a guy bench presses, he's a basketball player, not an offensive lineman.

Antonio Ethan Gates Jr. (born June 18, 1980) is an American football tight end for the Los Angeles Chargers of the National Football League (NFL). He has been selected into the Pro Bowl eight times and is a five-time All-Pro.

Gates was signed as an NFL free agent after playing college basketball for Kent State University. In hoops, an AP all-american as a senior; averaging 20.6 points, 7.7 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game.

...is tight end considered offensive line?

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 4:05:14 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Who cares what a guy bench presses, he's a basketball player, not an offensive lineman.

I did play actually, coached at the high school level for a few years too. Of course strength is a factor, but Kevin Durant couldn't even bench press 185 once when he was at Texas. You think they had fans on their board saying not to recruit him because of it?

Can anyone tell me what DJ Cooper could bench press? He was pretty skinny, probably a waste of a scholarship too.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 5:40:16 PM

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Do we REALLY want to tout our amazing strength and conditioning program? Right now of all times? After suffering how many injuries and multiple season-ending ones over the last 4 years that already calls it into question? I don't think that's a winning argument...

But yes, of course we'll try and bulk him up once he gets to Athens.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 5:43:59 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Can anyone tell me what DJ Cooper could bench press? He was pretty skinny, probably a waste of a scholarship too.

No I can't, but probably not a lot. Then again that's one of the main reasons DJ isn't playing in the NBA - his size/strength or lack thereof.

Also, positions matter. A lot less physical 20 feet away from the basket where you get calls for hand-checking. You can survive with a kid who still needs to add bulk a lot easier there. Not so much in the low post.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 8:54:34 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Can anyone tell me what DJ Cooper could bench press? He was pretty skinny, probably a waste of a scholarship too.

DJ Cooper was also not a 6'10 post. Put that 120# presser up against the Buffalo front line.....and if you're thinking Patrick Flomo 2.0, think again- skill set is not close.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/10/2018 9:46:08 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

.... Kevin Durant ....

You are comparing Springs to Durant??? The number 3,000-something rated high school senior hoopster in America? The guy who averages 5 points and 3 rebounds a game in high school?

OMG What's next on here?

(in my best Adam Silver NBA commish voice)
"With the first pick of the 2018 NBA draft, the Memphis Grizzlies select...
(dramatic pause)... Ellis Dozier, 6-8 forward from Ohio! ... the Phoenix Suns are on the clock.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/11/2018 9:37:54 AM

That's not the point. The point is that you can still be an effective basketball player despite being skinny.

How much could Maurice Ndour bench when he got here? It doesn't matter because he was skilled, could rebound, score, and run the floor. Is Nathan Springs the next Maurice Ndour? Probably not, but if he isn't it's just because he's not as good of a player, it won't be because he can't bench as much.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/11/2018 1:22:46 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Yes, I'm not touting anything amazing. I'm just saying that any focused strength and conditioning program is going to make a huge difference and someone's high school bench press is the dumbest reason I've ever heard not to recruit someone. Some of these guys are still growing into their bodies. They may not have had good nutrition programs. and Not everyone's body is programmed to build muscle at the same speed. We have had some bad luck with some freak injuries. Do you really think broken bones are due to strength and conditioning? When you work out at the level these guys do, things sometimes break down due to a number of factors. Some of them are even genetic, or due to existing conditions that may have gone undetected. I hope it will swing back in our favor next year. Even the guys that played couldn't practice much of the season. Dartis was on the floor but not practicing. That means we had Dartis the shooter, not the complete player for long stretches. You could tell the games he was feeling well because he had his first step back and was making plays going around people. You going to tell me Doug's body hasn't changed in three years? You can blame the S&C program, but I'm just not buying it until some of you MDs on this board provide more evidence.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/11/2018 2:47:56 PM

I think you hit the nail DCF.

Everyone matures at different rates. Strength Coaches are worth their weight in gold. One of the best for Basketball is former Miami big man Adam Fletcher https://twitter.com/Adam_Fletcher41 Scroll down through his Twitter feed and look at the transformations.

Tommy could not get over 170 despite protein drinks and eating voraciously. Groce wanted him 200. Whenever he would get close he would get sick fighting through mono, strep...whatever. I told him it would come as I stayed at 179 lbs no matter what I ate till I was in my 50s in the mid 2000s when I stopped doing triathlons after a knee injury. He finally got to 200 his senior year with a lot of food, work and Basgier's strength training. Genetics, activity and metabolism are the keys.

As far as recruiting, one of the things you look at is how mature a kid is and what kind of frame he has along with a quick look at parents to see potential. No comment on the kid coming in as I have not seen him but he sounds like a late mature that will need nutritional counseling and strength conditioning. Definitely need some weight to hold your own inside.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/12/2018 3:15:13 PM

As Eagle66 announced in another thread, WMU losing Reggie Jones. Regular contributor who averaged 10 points on the team this season so it's a pretty big loss.

NIU big man Owen Hamilton transferring as well. Played sparingly for the Huskies throughout the year.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/13/2018 4:35:17 PM

List is up to 115 on VC. Name that popped out to me was Xeryius Williams transferring from Dayton. Ohio offered him during Christian's last year here and verballed to Dayton a few months after Saul was hired, so who knows if there is a connection.

He had 13 points, 7 boards and 6 assists in the game against Ohio down in Charleston. Played pretty well in the beginning of the year and averaged over 11ppg until a back injury pretty much ruined his season. Sounds like our kinda guy! ;)

Last Edited: 3/13/2018 4:36:15 PM by GoCats105

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/13/2018 6:31:17 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Nope. No schollies. Gotta roll with the incoming class as is.

You can make that 117 on the list now. It ended up with around 800 last time.

So, these guys leaving Colorado and Georgetown and Iowa State and Georgia Tech? Nope. Can't get them. Gotta roll with the incoming class as is. For better or worse.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/13/2018 9:25:33 PM

Wisky connections. Need another big? https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/andy-van-vliet

6 PFs signed in that program. Happ is in the same class.

Last Edited: 3/13/2018 9:28:09 PM by bornacatfan

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/13/2018 10:15:15 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Just say no to Xeryius. Not that he's not a good player and wouldn't be a great get for OU - but he stopped traveling with the team the last week or so and didn't play in the conference tournament because of academic issues. If you can't stay eligible you're of no use to anybody.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/14/2018 5:04:50 PM

Add three BG Falcons to the list..

Jordan Strack wrote:

BGSU Men�s Basketball has had 3 players announce that they�ll transfer in the last 2 days: Rodrick Caldwell, Nelly Cummings & Derek Koch.

All 3 were young. All 3 had already seen significant minutes.

This is not a good sign right now.

https://twitter.com/jordanstrack/status/974015523561312259

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/14/2018 5:52:25 PM

Hot off the press... not even on that list yet...

Larry Austin (Guard... Xavier and then Vandy) ... one year left as grad xfer
Peyton Willis (Guard...Vandy) will have to sit and then 2 years left**

**unconfirmed rumor he was leaning toward MTSU but their coach may be taking the Ole Miss job any minute now, so that does complicate things. He's pretty good and is big for a guard. But Saul doesn't have an open grant, so he'll just have to go to some other lucky mid-major.

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/15/2018 9:19:15 PM

Here's a blast from the past. Tariq Owens grad transferring from St. Johns.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/974430015403282437...

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RE: 2018 Transfer List

Posted: 3/15/2018 9:57:25 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Here's a blast from the past. Tariq Owens grad transferring from St. Johns.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/974430015403282437...

Ryan Taylor I believe is also leaving Evansville via grad transfer.

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