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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 12:16:01 PM 
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesp...

Pretty stunning stuff. 72-33 over the last three years, and winning-est coach in program history.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 12:39:16 PM 
I saw his statement on my Twitter feed this AM.

Pretty interesting statement from a good character guy

https://twitter.com/CoachScottCross/status/97845673053440...


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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 12:44:54 PM 
Pretty much cements the reality that mid/low major coaches need to win their conference tournament every 4-5 years or they are fired. Nothing else matters.

After winning 27 games last year you'd think this coach would get a few more years, no?

Last Edited: 3/27/2018 12:47:10 PM by Ohio69


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 12:48:43 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:
Pretty much cements the reality that mid/low major coaches need to win their conference tournament every 4-5 years or they are fired. Nothing else matters.

After winning 27 games last year you'd think this coach would get a few more years, no?



I would think so.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 4:55:30 PM 
Their AD pretty much sounds like an ass.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 5:49:50 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Their AD pretty much sounds like an ass.


+1

This coach had done a ton in his time there and gets fired? Yeah this has to be the biggest head-scratcher of the year
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 7:24:26 PM 
Well...

"Baker earned his bachelor of science degree in business administration from Franklin University in Columbus, Ohio, and held positions with Gladieux Food Service at Ohio State University and the University of Florida before joining Texas in 1991."
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 9:23:15 PM 
A good read


http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac...
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/27/2018 9:56:14 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
A good read


http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac...



Really good article.


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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 9:59:35 AM 
That is a really good read - and until (unlikely) the selection process changes, it's reality for the majority of D1 schools.

Seeing that does beg the question: Why on earth did they build a two deck, 7,000 seat arena in the era of shrinking arenas and sports attendance? It seems huge relative to their demand. If I were at a mid-major, even at Ohio, I wouldn't build anything bigger than about 5,000 to 6,000 seats.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 10:04:38 AM 
They have a name recognition problem too. Mavericks? Who are people in the Dallas area talking about UTA or Mark Cuban's team? And we think we have a problem be confused with tosu.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 10:09:43 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
They have a name recognition problem too. Mavericks? Who are people in the Dallas area talking about UTA or Mark Cuban's team? And we think we have a problem be confused with tosu.


That's an excellent point.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 11:02:56 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
That is a really good read - and until (unlikely) the selection process changes, it's reality for the majority of D1 schools.

Seeing that does beg the question: Why on earth did they build a two deck, 7,000 seat arena in the era of shrinking arenas and sports attendance? It seems huge relative to their demand. If I were at a mid-major, even at Ohio, I wouldn't build anything bigger than about 5,000 to 6,000 seats.


42,000 student body in a major metro area may require more than 5,000 seats if they’re successful.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 12:12:55 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Their AD pretty much sounds like an ass.


Seems at some schools that's a requirement for the position these days.


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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 1:21:21 PM 
2016 attendance info for all universities. Top 100 - Ohio is the only MAC school. Sun Belt (UTA's conference) averages around 2,200 a game. Yes these are reported numbers vs. (I'm sure) butts in seats. But all schools have the same condition. So pretty much apples to apples.

https://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/images/2016...
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 1:42:51 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
That is a really good read - and until (unlikely) the selection process changes, it's reality for the majority of D1 schools.

Seeing that does beg the question: Why on earth did they build a two deck, 7,000 seat arena in the era of shrinking arenas and sports attendance? It seems huge relative to their demand. If I were at a mid-major, even at Ohio, I wouldn't build anything bigger than about 5,000 to 6,000 seats.


42,000 student body in a major metro area may require more than 5,000 seats if they’re successful.


Based on butts in seats + 72-33 over three seasons, it would seem it's more than adequate to me.
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 2:17:12 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
colobobcat66 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
That is a really good read - and until (unlikely) the selection process changes, it's reality for the majority of D1 schools.

Seeing that does beg the question: Why on earth did they build a two deck, 7,000 seat arena in the era of shrinking arenas and sports attendance? It seems huge relative to their demand. If I were at a mid-major, even at Ohio, I wouldn't build anything bigger than about 5,000 to 6,000 seats.


42,000 student body in a major metro area may require more than 5,000 seats if they’re successful.


Based on butts in seats + 72-33 over three seasons, it would seem it's more than adequate to me.


You’re not on their board of trustees so they must see it differently, so time will tell I guess

Last Edited: 3/28/2018 2:18:05 PM by colobobcat66

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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 3/28/2018 2:27:10 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
colobobcat66 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
That is a really good read - and until (unlikely) the selection process changes, it's reality for the majority of D1 schools.

Seeing that does beg the question: Why on earth did they build a two deck, 7,000 seat arena in the era of shrinking arenas and sports attendance? It seems huge relative to their demand. If I were at a mid-major, even at Ohio, I wouldn't build anything bigger than about 5,000 to 6,000 seats.


42,000 student body in a major metro area may require more than 5,000 seats if they’re successful.


Based on butts in seats + 72-33 over three seasons, it would seem it's more than adequate to me.


You’re not on their board of trustees so they must see it differently, so time will tell I guess


Quite true. They also may be looking at 7,000+ seats from more than just a basketball perspective (concerts, etc.)
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 4/5/2018 11:14:21 AM 
If you subscribe to The Athletic, Seth Davis has an opinion on this:

https://theathletic.com/299689/2018/04/04/uta-is-looking-... /

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/981541058524753921
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  Message Not Read  RE: TOS to UT Arlington
   Posted: 4/8/2018 5:48:04 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
If you subscribe to The Athletic, Seth Davis has an opinion on this:

https://theathletic.com/299689/2018/04/04/uta-is-looking-... /

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/981541058524753921


Thank you for these links. The tweet is telling. "UTA coach Scott Cross was fired because his AD thinks the team should "get to the NCAAs every year." Team's budget is in lower half of its own conference. Maybe get a new AD first? @WBBBPB writes for The Fieldhouse. @TheAthleticCBB "



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