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Author Message Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,644 Status: Offline     If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 12:21:20 AM  ...then why not go to Boise and poke around a bit? That may sound silly, but if I'm Frank that's how I'm selling this to the team. Forget the NIU game. We get to go out there and see the facilities that the #1 non-AQ team practices at, plays at, etc. We get to be Boise for a few days. Pilgrimage. Back to Top AggieFirefighter General User Member Since: 12/5/2011 Post Count: 4 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 2:10:34 AM  You may get to be IN Boise- But you don't get to BE Boise- And you shouldn't want to be.. Academically BSU as an institution is a complete joke -On top it, They'll throw anything away- Including all Oly sports for a good football program. Football aside, They are a joke and LOTS of westerners hate them, They're burnig bridges left and right in a pathetic attempt to become a BCS football team. Last Edited: 12/5/2011 2:30:42 AM by AggieFirefighter Back to Top LKGates General User Member Since: 12/5/2011 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 2:26:41 AM  Another Aggie visitor here. AFF is right. You really don't want to be Boise. And you never will be, even if your football team gets a BCS bowl invitation. And that's a good thing. OU is a great academic institution with a rich history. BSU is a football program with a potemkin university attached. Their administration is ruthless, and their fans are the barbarian hoard. I hope they do manage to put together this move to the Big Least; they deserve each other! Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,440 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 9:30:09 AM  LKGates wrote: Another Aggie visitor here. AFF is right. You really don't want to be Boise. And you never will be, even if your football team gets a BCS bowl invitation. And that's a good thing. OU is a great academic institution with a rich history. BSU is a football program with a potemkin university attached. Their administration is ruthless, and their fans are the barbarian hoard. I hope they do manage to put together this move to the Big Least; they deserve each other!   Funny stuff and a great turn of phrase.  BTW, were you describing Marshall (sorry CD)????? "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 9:46:08 AM  I like Utah State already. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top DelBobcat General User Member Since: 8/26/2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,135 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 10:58:57 AM  oldkatz wrote: LKGates wrote: Another Aggie visitor here. AFF is right. You really don't want to be Boise. And you never will be, even if your football team gets a BCS bowl invitation. And that's a good thing. OU is a great academic institution with a rich history. BSU is a football program with a potemkin university attached. Their administration is ruthless, and their fans are the barbarian hoard. I hope they do manage to put together this move to the Big Least; they deserve each other!   Funny stuff and a great turn of phrase.  BTW, were you describing Marshall (sorry CD)????? I thought he might be describing OSU. BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012 Back to Top Brian Smith (No, not that one) General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 3,016 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 12:14:40 PM  oldkatz wrote: LKGates wrote: Another Aggie visitor here. AFF is right. You really don't want to be Boise. And you never will be, even if your football team gets a BCS bowl invitation. And that's a good thing. OU is a great academic institution with a rich history. BSU is a football program with a potemkin university attached. Their administration is ruthless, and their fans are the barbarian hoard. I hope they do manage to put together this move to the Big Least; they deserve each other!   Funny stuff and a great turn of phrase.  BTW, were you describing Marshall (sorry CD)????? Boise State: The Marshall of the West. And to do what Boise has done, you can't have a colossus 75 miles up the road, a Big East school within the state, another Big East team in the region, and five or six like programs in the same state. Boise's isolation allowed it to do what it did. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,203 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 12:57:20 PM  One thing about Boise that is completely different than Marshall is Boise State football is the dominant athletic product for the entire state and not exclusively the pride and joy of one community like Marshall in Huntington. Boise almost always from the start of their program had a highly successful program. There was a ton of winning at the FCS level before they decided to move up. There is a ton of winning in the WAC. I don't think Boise is going to necessarily continue to roll off top 10 teams but much like WVU will stay at least a 8 to 10 win program that can contend for conference titles in a Mountain West or Big East level conference. Marshall by comparison is an FCS school on steroids with a record of 34-50 in seven years of CUSA play. It required a fully loaded Marshall program coasting in the MAC East and a championship games at home to run up the record as a MAC school. Boise State football i think is more like Louisville in basketball they've built up a major brand there. Institutionally the analogy also rings true as Boise is rapidly building up its research capacity like Louisville has. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Flat Tire General User Member Since: 12/24/2006 Post Count: 138 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 7:39:23 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: One thing about Boise that is completely different than Marshall is Boise State football is the dominant athletic product for the entire state and not exclusively the pride and joy of one community like Marshall in Huntington. Boise almost always from the start of their program had a highly successful program. There was a ton of winning at the FCS level before they decided to move up. There is a ton of winning in the WAC. I don't think Boise is going to necessarily continue to roll off top 10 teams but much like WVU will stay at least a 8 to 10 win program that can contend for conference titles in a Mountain West or Big East level conference. Marshall by comparison is an FCS school on steroids with a record of 34-50 in seven years of CUSA play. It required a fully loaded Marshall program coasting in the MAC East and a championship games at home to run up the record as a MAC school. Boise State football i think is more like Louisville in basketball they've built up a major brand there. Institutionally the analogy also rings true as Boise is rapidly building up its research capacity like Louisville has. I spend a lot of time in the Boise area since I have property up at Cascade. There are a lot of U of I fans in the Boise area since Boise is the state capital and UI has the only real law school in the state. UI grads control the state government and thus BSU. BSU had to go before the state agency to ask to move to the BE. Four of the six members of agency were UI grads. When you leave the Boise area, you find most the state supports UI or ISU so it  very similar to Ohio or MU. Heck, most of the students and residents in Athens are closet OSU fans. BSU has stated several times that the modeled their program after MU. BSU stadium was smaller the MU's stadium when they were both 1-aa programs. BSU started out as a junior college and was a branch of UI before it became independent.  Boise is a great town with a lot of great ski areas close by. Pack your skies and make the trip! Back to Top cbus cat fan General User Member Since: 12/2/2011 Post Count: 1,169 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 8:02:49 PM  We should strive to be this best. Now this may sound like a cliche, but I remember all to well in the 80s the mindset that said; "what's wrong if the MAC becomes 1 AA?" Anyone in that era remembers that push to get students and anyone else to the game to get close to selling out then 20,000 strong Peden Stadium. It had to be done otherwise the NCAA we relegate us to 1 AA and we would become Appalachian State, Dayton or James Madison. I am sure there were the naysayers in Boise who who said, "We live in Idaho, big time college football is only on the coast or at Colorado." We have made a lot of progress, though when we do make mistakes as in the debacle of last Friday, they sure sting and they sure set us back. However, let's move forward and move beyond the Marshall's and Toledo's of the world to become our own Boise.We will never get the powerhouse publicity of Ohio State but we could become Ohio's version of Wake Forest. While they play in the shadow of North Carolina and North Carolina State, the shadow cast isn't big enough to keep them out of being in the ACC. Former Bobcat Coach Grobe does an excellent job at a university whose undergrad and grad population doesn't equal 10,000 combined. Something to think about and ponder. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 8:13:25 PM  I am proud of how Ohio has improved it's football program and athletic dept, and we have room for further growth and I'm for it. However...I don't see us having the resources of a Boise State.  Populous metro area, more affluent, more corporate presence, direct recruiting pipeline to California, institutional committment to investing large amounts in athletics, etc.   I don't see Boise State as being a template Ohio can follow in growing and advancing our athletics program in the future.   Heck, Utah State might be a good template for us to look at.  This will be a good opportunity to examine their programs and see if there is something we could emulate.   Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 8:58:21 PM  we can start by painting our turf to match our school colors, it could be our "thing". MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/5/2011 9:27:55 PM  perimeterpost wrote: we can start by painting our turf to match our school colors, it could be our "thing". Seems Ohio's field was in school colors first, so,  they must have taken the school color field theme from Ohio. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,203 Status: Offline     RE: If we aspire to be the next Boise...    Posted: 12/6/2011 10:07:11 AM  cbus cat fan wrote: However, let's move forward and move beyond the Marshall's and Toledo's of the world to become our own Boise.We will never get the powerhouse publicity of Ohio State but we could become Ohio's version of Wake Forest. While they play in the shadow of North Carolina and North Carolina State, the shadow cast isn't big enough to keep them out of being in the ACC. Former Bobcat Coach Grobe does an excellent job at a university whose undergrad and grad population doesn't equal 10,000 combined. Something to think about and ponder. Honestly I think Ohio is already there if you are considering having a program with a national identity. We've got Coach Solich and his pistol offense brand. The formula has been in place at least since 2007. Five appearances on ESPN/ESPN2 in November-December of this year. A 19-7 conference record over the last 3 years. For a small market team out of a mid major conference the example we set building a stable program is starting to get noticed here. It was easy to dismiss the building process after going 6-6 in 2007 and 4-8 in 2008 but you can't dismiss it now after 3 straight 8+ win seasons. That may be all the more that is sustainable, an 8-10 win team built on regularly easy non-conference schedules. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 14  of 14 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 294 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 291 Guests 3 Registered Users:   OhioCatFan, MMGrad2022, STVCastle There are no other users looking at this page.

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