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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:15:47 PM

Like I said a week ago… It’s the Solich program in basketball. Good but seldom defeating the big dogs

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:18:01 PM

I'd be more inclined to be upset about AJB not shooting down the stretch if our offense was about giving the ball to the hot hand and telling him to create. I'm observing a lot of downhill driving, off ball motion, and taking whatever opening materializes for any player. I'm good with that.

Players are being thrust into new roles on the fly and are stepping up. I can see it. I really like what I see out of six of the eight in the current rotation... Sheldon, buddy, you gotta hit a three point shot. Ayden Evans has only 12 rebounds and four blocked shots on the year. He hasn't grabbed a single rebound since NIU.

This one reminded me of the Kentucky game with BVP and Sears a bit. You come up with really a brilliant effort and force a lot of so-so mid range looks and they knock them down. Todd K's teams always shoot with confidence. In a way, with how our women's team's roster looks every year, it's kinda how I wish they could play half the time.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:26:54 PM

Watched the game with a friend. He said OHIO wins if Evans sits and Wiznitzer had his minutes!

I liked Vic tonight with his 8 rebounds and a few easy baskets off nifty feeds. But he sees Simmons just brick two free throws and then lets him take it to the hoop and feebly foul him--he bricks the +1--of course. Vic should have cleanly body slambedx him into the bleachers. No way a stiff from the line gets to put up a close shot like that again late.

What's with Sheldon's basketball sense? He had time to dribble two more times--the light didn't go off till the ball was reaching the board.

James, the strongest guy on the floor should have had the final look. (he made two early thees) Brown is who Toledo would have probably thought would get it.

Good hustle. toledo made some really clutch HUGE shots.

Last Edited: 1/28/2025 10:27:19 PM by MonroeClassmate

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:43:11 PM

MonroeClassmate wrote:

What's with Sheldon's basketball sense? He had time to dribble two more times--the light didn't go off till the ball was reaching the board.

Because Toledo, up 3, was going to foul. The camera showed Todd K multiple times instructing the team to foul while up 3. If Sheldon doesn't fire away when he did, he is going to the line instead.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:53:37 PM

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 10:59:41 PM

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

And OUr announcers tell us how strong a defender he is, something I don't tend to agree with. He gets beat off the dribble too often, resulting in a easy layup or a reaching foul (a call Sheldon vehemently disagrees with). I will say that Sheldon does play help D as well as any Bobcat.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 11:02:53 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

His steal late vs Kent St. (helping from behind) was one of the biggest plays of the game. Added 8 points of win probability.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 11:11:01 PM

shabamon wrote:

I'd be more inclined to be upset about AJB not shooting down the stretch if our offense was about giving the ball to the hot hand and telling him to create.

What about running set plays to create open looks for specific players? Why is the only option having a guy create their own loo

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 11:20:50 PM

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

BRod lost his 3-point shot his Junior year.
Sheldon lost his 3-point shot his Junior year.

Somebody mentioned it earlier, why are Sheldon's legs going 10 different directions on his release?

How do you go from being one of the best 3-point shooters in the country to arguably one of the worst from one season to the next?

Something is off and the coaching staff can't fix it apparently.

Not good.

Last Edited: 1/28/2025 11:27:11 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/28/2025 11:51:20 PM

FearLeon wrote:

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

So now shooting slumps, including one from a former regime, are now Jeff's fault? Got it.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 12:02:40 AM

GraffZ06 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to step up in the absence of Clayton.

So now shooting slumps, including one from a former regime, are now Jeff's fault? Got it.

Huh?

Did I say Sheldon's shooting slump was Jeff's fault....no. I'm just drawing the comparison between BRod and Sheldon's Junior years as being very similar with 3 point shooting.

The coaching staff can't make the shots for Sheldon, but they sure can try and figure out why his legs are flying everywhere on his 3-point shot.

Last Edited: 1/29/2025 12:15:25 AM by FearLeon

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 7:25:33 AM

If OUr team would have played with the fire they've had the last two games all season long, we'd have a much better record. This rotation has really shown its grit the past two games. I cannot fault their effort or execution one bit. Reef and Elliott, in particular, simply short-armed a few shots at the rim but if they get the foul call or a few of those go in it's a different game. Obviously our guards want to get into the lane and get blocked a ton but I would rather see us be aggressive then wait for AJC to get open and take long 3's.

Vic Searls has become the Tommy Schmock of this team--A D-2 guy who busts his butt and has proven, without a doubt, that he belongs here. Ajay Sheldon has lost his shot but dude has added the drive to his game and plays hard. AJB has stepped up and Elliott has been a revelation. When was the last time we had a player who could pull off that dunk he had early in the game? Jon Smith?

Ayden Evans is what he is--soft and weak but that's not a knock but rather an observation based on the fact he should have redshirted this year. He seems like a good teammate, has hops and plays hard but he is a step behind and a step short on what seems like everything. I think he will be a really good player if he can bulk up like Doug Taylor did.

All in all, this team, without AJC and Captain Chaos is a .500 MAC team with hopes of winning a game in Cleveland. Other than that, the rest is gravy. You can't lose two 6-8 guys who average a combined 26 ppg and 11 rpg and expect to stop Javan Simmons or Clint Hornbeak. Keep working hard Cats and GO GET FIAMI.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:02:49 AM

FearLeon wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

UofToledoFans wrote:

Boals is 0-7 at OU in the regular season vs. UT. Yes Ohio is better when healthy. A team with lots of length but lack of bigs is happy the 6'8 dudes are out. Toledo is metrically awful because they are a bottom 40 team in the nation in defense. The fact that 26 points of scoring isn't there will help the Rockets.

Toledo has laid some eggs this season. Oakland and Kent 20+ losses at home. The Rockets also figured out Marshall and EMU which Ohio did not.

There is no team with more variance in the league than Toledo. The good version of was down 5 with 10 minutes against Purdue and lead Akeon by 12 at half. The bad version appears about half of the time. I would read Toledo as maybe a 130 Kenpom or maybe a 270 Kenpom. Rarely anything in-between. If it is it's one half of each. Inconsistoledo.

We know Toledo has won 12 of last 13 vs Ohio. Does anyone know what Boals record is vs the Zips and Kent? Guessing it is below .500??

I have unofficially....through 1-28-2025....Boals regular season/MAC Tourney all-time record vs Toledo/Akron/Kent is 11-22.

Toledo men's basketball coach Kowalczyk's contract extended through 2027-28 season
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The University of Toledo has extended men’s basketball coach Tod Kowalczyk’s contract through the 2027-28 season.

His base salary will remain at $361,000 and marketing compensation will be $225,000, with several incentives that can increase his pay.

The salary information above for Toledo's coach was published in The Blade in May of 2024. Groce at Akron is making 650 K and is eligible for a 75K retention bonus this summer to push him to over 700 K. Last season Sendek at Kent was making 375 K and his extension runs through 2028-29. Boals just renewed his contract. Anyone aware of what he is making? I have heard over 800 K. If so, Groce and Kowalczyk are underpaid. Ohio's administration had no problem rewarding the basketball coach, yet the most successful football coach the last four seasons in the league was the 6th highest paid in the MAC. Yep that makes sense!

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:03:05 AM

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Somebody explain to me why Sheldon is in this game in the last four minutes and Boals set up a 3 for him out of a timeout? He hasn’t made a three-point shot since high school. I don’t get it.

Just looking at his bio on ohiobobcats.com, 2023-24: Played in 33 games, while averaging 16.0 minutes a game…Averaged 5.2 points per game…Shot .487 from the field, .463 from three and .618 from the line 38-82 for the year. His sophomore year at Ohio qualifies as since High School. Notably lower this year though he still seems to have a green light.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:15:05 AM

longtiimelurker wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Somebody explain to me why Sheldon is in this game in the last four minutes and Boals set up a 3 for him out of a timeout? He hasn’t made a three-point shot since high school. I don’t get it.

When you start conference play 4-30 from 3 it sure feels like he hasn’t made a 3 since HS. Sarcasm. In an earlier post, I said he was one of the best three-point shooters country last season.

Hope he can turn it around soon.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:21:20 AM

FearLeon wrote:

longtiimelurker wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Somebody explain to me why Sheldon is in this game in the last four minutes and Boals set up a 3 for him out of a timeout? He hasn’t made a three-point shot since high school. I don’t get it.

He has to turn it around for this team to be successful. He has to be an outside threat for us to get inside looks to Searls and drives for the other guys. His energy is awesome--rivaled only by Captain Chaos! But that shot--when he would shoot I used to think it was going in..now I pray it does.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:22:53 AM

I give a lot of credit to Toledo. I know they aren't a good defensive team, but I really don't think they were leaving us wide open or giving us easy buckets much. Offensively they swished a lot of tough shots, seemingly every time we drew even or about even. It was really frustrating.

The jump ball call at the end was terrible. That was our ball and a timeout. I'm angry we were deprived of our chance at a buzzer beater there.

Crowd was pretty shitty for a big game on national TV. Student section getting worse as the season goes on. Take out the Brazilians and the football players and it was extremely paltry.

Credit Searls for what he does, but he is in over his head in this prominent role. He can get a few nice finishes every game, but he is not a natural rebounder and is not quick enough on defense.

It is clear Boals really does not like AJB's defense considering he subs him out at the end of the game any chance he gets to make a switch as the opponent has the ball. On the flipside he really likes Elliott's defense as he is the one he usually puts in for him.

Elliott has great rebounding ability for a guard and plays versatile defense. He definitely has some reckless drives to the hoop, probably moves he could execute in high school but he just gets eaten up. He will learn on this and get better. I think he is a well rounded excellent player.

Great game from JP & AJB of course. Flying down the court and getting to the rim effectively. And did a great job taking care of the basketball overall.

The disappearance of Sheldon's shot can not be overstated. This is yet another game where the outcome could have been different if he hit 1 or 2. I agree this is some mechanical stuff going on with his bottom half that needs to be addressed in practice. Reef's mid-range jumpers were not falling which was also big.

A win at Miami could make up for this. I know Miami has looked good this year but I still say the jury is out on them and our banged up Bobcats winning in Oxford may not be as far fetched as it seems right now.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:51:25 AM

Ted Thompson wrote:

Sheldon 4-30 from three in MAC play. Really need him to stop shooting.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 8:52:41 AM

AJB finally played with a little more aggression and contributed on the glass, ended up with 8 boards with 3 of those being offensive. We need that out of him on a nightly basis moving forward. We all know he can shoot but standing in a corner all night doesn't a whole lot for us, he was much more active.

It was obvious from the start of the game that our strategy was to run, which I think is our best bet. Toledo is pretty skilled offensively and matched our 3 point shooting but I don't see the lesser opponents being able to keep pace. Only 14 turnovers between both teams so a much cleaner game, we only had 5.

Points in the paint continues to be a concern, ended up being 40-40 due to us living in the key off the break and being ultra aggressive. Toledo struggled with transition defense.

All in all it was a encouraging game and I think we will be able to win against the lower tiered teams but going up against the top half of the league will be a struggle.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 9:28:50 AM

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I agree. We played a tough game. We win that with AJC and Hadaway. AJB finally looks like someone told him that he's a really good player. Searls is playing well. Pav played well despite some shots not falling at the end. Sheldon is a game or two away from riding the pine pony.

They played a top team in the league and held on all the way to the end. My season prediction was we split Akron-Toledo-Kent and I still feel the same. We're two boots away from being a good team.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 9:44:31 AM

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AJB finally played with a little more aggression and contributed on the glass, ended up with 8 boards with 3 of those being offensive. We need that out of him on a nightly basis moving forward.

AJB sat for the final 9 minutes of the first half and played only 26 minutes and wasn't in foul trouble. Let me repeat...in one of the biggest games of the season...Boals played AJB 26 minutes when we are missing Clayton and Captain Chaos. How is this even possible? The guy needs to be playing 34 minutes against the Akron's-Kent's-Toledo's. You can easily say sitting AJB that long in the first half cost us the game. It's when Toledo went on its big run to end the half. I just don't get it and this is coaching malpractice to only play him 26 minutes in a game like this.

And AJB didn't get a shot off in the last 5 minutes of the game? But Sheldon got three shots.

Makes no sense.

Last Edited: 1/29/2025 9:46:42 AM by FearLeon

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 10:21:41 AM

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The salary information above for Toledo's coach was published in The Blade in May of 2024. Groce at Akron is making 650 K and is eligible for a 75K retention bonus this summer to push him to over 700 K. Last season Sendek at Kent was making 375 K and his extension runs through 2028-29. Boals just renewed his contract. Anyone aware of what he is making? I have heard over 800 K. If so, Groce and Kowalczyk are underpaid. Ohio's administration had no problem rewarding the basketball coach, yet the most successful football coach the last four seasons in the league was the 6th highest paid in the MAC. Yep that makes sense!

There are multiple threads about Albin and his contract. Can we have a thread or two where you don't make this point? It's off topic here.

Thanks.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 10:28:03 AM

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The disappearance of Sheldon's shot can not be overstated. This is yet another game where the outcome could have been different if he hit 1 or 2. I agree this is some mechanical stuff going on with his bottom half that needs to be addressed in practice.

Our roster, at full health, only really works if we're an elite shooting team. I get the vision Boals had -- between Clayton, AJB, Sheldon, and Pavs -- you had 4 guys who were pretty elite from 3 in previous seasons. Then you have others who are good enough to stretch defenses and keep them honest in Reef, Elmore, and Hadaway.

Two of those guys who were supposed to be elite (Pavs and Sheldon) are in shooting slumps, and while Reef and Elmore are outshooting their career levels, the volume of shots isn't making up for Sheldon/Pavs' struggles.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 11:51:39 AM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

There are multiple threads about Albin and his contract. Can we have a thread or two where you don't make this point? It's off topic here.

Thanks.

It's all about the timing, Bobcat1996. Some have it. Some don't.

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RE: Official Game 20 Thread: Toledo

Posted: 1/29/2025 12:50:00 PM

JimLurker34 wrote:

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

There are multiple threads about Albin and his contract. Can we have a thread or two where you don't make this point? It's off topic here.

Thanks.

It's all about the timing, Bobcat1996. Some have it. Some don't.

If his goal is to become the reverse Monroe, it's important to ruin each thread.

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