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Topic: RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

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bobcatsquared
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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/16/2026 9:50:40 PM

I think greencat would like the roster former Bobcat Geno Ford has put together at Stony Brook.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/...

Or even better, Stony Brook's opponent tonight on CBSSN, Drexel.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/roster/...

Last Edited: 2/16/2026 9:57:30 PM by bobcatsquared

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 7:55:50 AM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

greencat wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Analyst Mark Adams during the Miami game noting over and over how Ohio was �out of gas� because of no depth. That�s not true. We have bodies. We played nine last night and bench averaged 12 min each. We have a TALENT problem. How in the hell is the talent gap where it is currently between Miami and Ohio? It�s embarrassing.

And we have a massive coaching problem that can�t grow the players we have. It was an awful game. Typical Ohio. 5-21 from 3. Out rebounded by 9. Out assisted by 6. And so on. So it�s not depth. I think Adams trying to be kind because Boals is his buddy, but I really wish he would�ve called it out.

Also the Kauny treatment still makes me crazy. Is he wild and out of control? Yes. Does he sometimes get lost on D? Yes. But he�s easily the most athletic guy we have after JJ. He needs to play. Be molded. After 25 games Boals plays him at the 3 for the first time? I mean make it make sense?

Boals need to go.
Staff needs to go.

Ohio basketball needs to start over. Boals is not equipped to be a head coach in the NIL/Portal era. And if he�s back next season, bye bye NIL donations and say hello to more Ben Nicols, Bahamas Ezumas, the Whiz�s and walking buckets of the world on future rosters.

It�s pathetic and embarrassing where this program is year 7 into the Jeff Boals era.

Wiznitzer had back to back dunks to spark a win over fiami like 2 years ago (?) while Breath couldn't make a layup a couple of times right by the rim. Breath is clearly below the level of Searles who was a D-2 guy and even Wiz.

Actually two of the better transfers Boals has brought in were D2 guys in Searls and Tommy Schmock. Both were the type of guys Miami has. Smart, hard-working dudes with a little edge who shared the ball and were tough as nails. I wish we had both this year. Don't knock on D2.

I�ve always said D2/lower levels are a great resource to fill out the roster. Especially cost-effectively for specialist types. Shot blockers/rebounders and 3PT shooters.

Having a staffer with ties would certainly help.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 7:58:11 AM

FearLeon wrote:

greencat wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Yes�you can add Breath to the list�.AKA as �Mr. Softee�. He serves up nothing but soft served ice cream running up and down the court.

I think Breath just checked out mentally at this point. He was way too efficient at UNCG to be deemed this awful.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 10:04:16 AM

FJC31 wrote:

Bobcat1998 wrote:

greencat wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

D-2 players (who are D-1 quality); international guys; juco guys; late bloomers in other parts of the country; portal guys who are NOT scrubs; etc.

There are so many qualified guys out there. Other mid-majors are getting them and NOT doing it by backing up a Brinks truck up to their door. But it takes a great deal of scouting and recruiting... i.e. - not simply going an hour away up 33 to one single school.

The 2026 NJCAA (juco) basketball national championships take place in March 2026, with key tournaments held in Kansas, Illinois, and Louisiana. The DI juco Men�s Championship is scheduled for March 21-28, 2026, in Hutchinson, KS. If this staff is not given pink slips by then, time to get the tires rotated and oil changed and go scout those guys.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 10:54:40 AM

I have chimed in earlier in this discussion stating that Jeff is safe this year,
next year could be a different story.
Next year, 2027, he will have only 1 more year left, contract ends 2028.
Many of us are talking about all the doom and gloom for our team next year.
None of us know, except for the graduation players, who won't be back.
It is very possible that the team will be improved and not worse than this year.
We live in a world where negativity & conjecture runs rampart.
My concern is the Jeff's teams seems to lack tuffness.
We can look at the stats and easily point out our areas that need improvement, and
many of these areas has been consistant during Jeff's tenure.
I personally like Jeff and want to support him, but I also would like to see
improvement. Being in the middle of the conference year after year is not
acceptable.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 1:52:12 PM

+100% ^^^^

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 7:33:11 PM

2-17-2026

Ohio might go onto beat Ball State by 20, but it just went 8 minutes without scoring a single point in the first half against one of the worst division-one basketball teams in the country.

The 7th year of the Jeff Boals era is cooking.

Last Edited: 2/17/2026 7:34:08 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/17/2026 7:39:29 PM

*Bump

Time to blow it up and start over. This program is a shitcapade. Boals has completely checked out. It�s clear he�s not cut out to be a head coach in the NIL/Portal era.

So many reasons to do it after this season.

1-13 all-time against his Daddy Tod K is beyond embarrassing.

Reminder�it�s Tod K from Toledo�not Coach K from Duke.

Last Edited: 2/28/2026 6:23:40 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/28/2026 8:01:41 PM

The administration hasn't been supporting the basketball program. They haven't upgraded the convo with practice courts (was in the 2016 master plan). Naming rights sponsor for the Convo never came to fruition. Revenue sharing has been super minimal. They've failed this program and Boals is nothing more than a symptom of their disinterest in basketball.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/28/2026 8:19:11 PM

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The first thing a prospective coach is going to ask is about all the above. If Ohio says no, or "we're working on it", lots of good coaches will kindly say no thanks. And we'll get stuck with Tim O'Shea Jimmy Christian.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/28/2026 8:19:55 PM

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I beg to differ. The former AD who just left for Baton Rouge rewarded Boals well. He was the top paid coach in the league a year or so ago. His annual fifth seed performances do not warrant his top salary. The former AD had no problem paying Boals. The Convo is still one of the better conference facilities.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 2/28/2026 9:12:52 PM

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I thought you were a serious Ohio Basketball supporter. It was Schaus who elevated the salaries of incoming Ohio coaches with JC and Saul under the pretense the Ohio was the best job in the conference. The salary is set for that expectation and that expectation carried forward with Julie and Boals did get the program to the NCAAs. That said he isn't paid anything compared to a Big East coach and decent pay for an established mid major head coach doesn't say much of anything to the overall committment to the program by the administration from the president down. Julie said herself she was more bullish on football's ability to compete against the G5 than basketball which is the first I've heard an AD with a tilted opinion against basketball leading athletics.

At Ohio its just another Olympic sport by the way its treated at this moment. 5th in the MAC is probably good enough for the administration. They'd rather spend a million a new logo than 900k on buying out Boals contract to only find an even more expensive coach (which is what I'm sure they'll do).

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 11:22:50 AM

I put this in another thread, but I think this deserves a spot in this thread as well.

I have been saying for a long time now that Boals is checked out. Being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era is not for him. Go to a top-30 program and become the top assistant again. With that said and if true, any chance Boals goes to the AD after the season and says I�m burned out and want out, but I still want to help the program and let�s discuss lowering the buyout for last two years? Maybe I am in dream land here.

Last Edited: 3/1/2026 11:24:04 AM by FearLeon

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 1:45:49 PM

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

If the former AD wasn�t serious about basketball, then why did she reward the mens head coach salary wise as one of the top head coaches in the conference? She rewarded him as the highest paid coach in the MAC a few years ago. As for being paid similar to a Big East coach, that will never happen.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 2:35:55 PM

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Maybe we can take a page from the SEC back in the "good old days" and make him an assistant AD with a lesser salary, but keep him in the fold.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 3:00:42 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Because its normal when you're historically one of the top programs in the MAC which don't forget is a G6 conference so the peers are SBC and MWC not the Ohio Valley and Summit League. Boals makes a decent (not exceptional salary) for a G6 coach. Historically Ohio has been that MAC program that wins non-conference games. All the great early season wins and then of course strong NCAA tournament performances.

Historically if you look at basketball compared to say Akron where its been more about regular season dominance. Thats my perception that it makes up for the 5th place conference finishes with overachievement in the non-con, NCAAs and even MAC tournament. In that context I think Boals pay is fair plus its going to an alum of the school. I don't agree wih trying to pay at the minimum of the MAC payscale like Miami is doing. That has resulted in only 3 winning seasons out of the last 17. As an overall strategy its a bad idea. Ohio should continue to pay as if its a Top 4 program in the MAC rather than allow the program to rot.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 3:50:13 PM

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

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The Mountain West is superior to MAC and it isn�t even close. The MWC has had 7 straight seasons of multiple bids including 4 last season and 6 teams in 2024.

We are not peers with it. Just because we can pay Boals a premium amount, doesn�t mean should. Recent results don�t really warrant it and wouldn�t for anyone else.

I honestly think the job would be more appealing if you budgeted $500K for salary and the remaining $300K towards the roster.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/1/2026 7:33:15 PM

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

I was talking about the new MWC with San Diego St and Utah St no longer in the conference. Its still better than the MAC though. I'm not sure what 300k is going to do for a 15 man roster, its only 20 grand per player. Money spent out the door on players never seen again.

Part of the problem I believe is all of the new rules around NIL and so far since its year 1 of the current rules we don't have a mid major yet we can point to that figured out the formula so Ohio can copy. Another reason not to toss Boals out if its not understood how to properly moneyball for players in the new environment. The tournament this year will show who the top mid majors are then it could be determined what they are doing. At the moment I feel like we are trying to fly blind trying to pay the players. I'd rather the administration annouce a strategy/partnership to kick in more money than pull it out of Boals salary.

Long term does paying the players change the coaching compensation structure for mid majors its hard to say.

Last Edited: 3/1/2026 7:36:11 PM by Athens

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 9:05:16 AM

TWT wrote:

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

The new MWC is still headlined by New Mexico, Nevada, and Grand Canyon. Each of these schools has had multiple tourney appearances the in the last 4 years. It's still a multi-bid conference.

$300K isn't for the full roster, but giving a new coach a leg up on the funding process upon hire. Mid-major reserves aren't making $20K. The average mid-major player is making $5k-$15k (quick research). Top players are making $75K-$150K at our level.

What you're suggesting sounds like you think Boals needs a coaching seminar on how to operate at the mid-major level in the NIL landscape that's now in year 5. The formula remains the same -- recruiting and player development. Two things Boals hasn't mastered because we aren't having this conversation otherwise.

If money was everything, Umass' $1.3 million roster this season wouldn't be worse than us.

Read the article below about Belmont's success under Casey Alexander. It's operating on a $291K budget this season while losing players like Malik Dia and Cade Tyson over the years. 25-4 this season. Why? recruiting, player development, and coaching (a la system). Our lack of success has nothing to do with anything other than being poor in those three categories.

You are correct, we are flying blind. Who does that fall on?

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/meet-the-mid-major-...

Last Edited: 3/2/2026 9:11:15 AM by FJC31

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 9:49:12 AM

I do think Boals will be retained but am hoping for/expecting a top-to-bottom assessment of the program by an outside source, perhaps a retired coach. Also expecting major reshaping of the staff.

After being embarrassed by Troy in a bowl game, Frank Solich dispatched his staff to Troy, Alabama, to learn about the Trojans' offensive philosophy, which we ultimately adopted. Boals needs to bring the same humility to the upcoming off-season.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 10:19:26 AM

SBH....it has taken years to remove the Troy Bowl Game Trip from my memory. I did not take kindly to the red headed caveman who came over to our section to gloat. Not my finest sportsmanship but I had backup to keep me in line. Ah the younger days.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 11:23:56 AM

Regardless of opponent, the first round is a must-win for me. I've been "Team Boals" for a long time but I can't continue to support whatever this is.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 12:06:32 PM

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

I think we agree that money isn't everything. Data in that article says the A10 is spending 3 million on its roster and the MVC is spending 2 million then you are stating UMass spent 1.3 million. Generally overall there is an understanding of what mid majors are spending but specifically what works best for example paying more for stars or more for contributors isn't understood.

Direct revenue sharing and the $600 NIL clearinghouse reporting requirement are brand new this season. The power schools with elite recruits big NIL deals have been falling on their laps for a while. Those deals haven't been much of a disrupter too much as the Top 25 is still filled with traditional names. In the AP poll I see Nebraska at #12 that must be due to spending. In the sweet 16 last year it was all power schools. New Mexico & St. Mary's made the second round and that was it.

Attempting to identify a mid-major model for Ohio to follow, a proven approach to follow under the 2026 rule set is too early at this point. This is my point here is if we give Boals another year instead of spending 900k right now to fire him is will there be successful program examples at the mid major level to model after and then be able to go out and hire the right guy for this new environment? Who is the next mid major to make the Sweet 16 or will we go years without it now? There used to be a couple mid majors in the Sweet 16 practically every year.

Last Edited: 3/2/2026 12:11:38 PM by Athens

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 12:21:55 PM

TWT wrote:

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

FJC31 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

TWT wrote:

Generally overall there is an understanding of what mid majors are spending but specifically what works best for example paying more for stars or more for contributors isn't understood.

Attempting to identify a mid-major model for Ohio to follow, a proven approach to follow under the 2026 rule set is too early at this point. This is my point here is if we give Boals another year instead of spending 900k right now to fire him is will there be successful program examples at the mid major level to model after and then be able to go out and hire the right guy for this new environment? Who is the next mid major to make the Sweet 16 or will we go years without it now? There used to be a couple mid majors in the Sweet 16 practically every year.

This is where recruiting and coaching play a huge role. Knowing your type of players and having a system in place mitigates most swings and misses here.

Why do we need to identify a mid-major model for Ohio to follow going into the 8th year of the current head coach? Do you think Boals is going to let anyone tell him how to run his program and to follow someone else'?

Wouldn't it just make more sense to pluck someone from that fellow mid-major staff to run a model we want to emulate instead over a lame duck Boals year?

I'm less concerned about making a Sweet 16 right now. I'd just like to get back to the MAC Tournament Championship game.

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RE: Fire Jeff Boals!

Posted: 3/2/2026 12:24:08 PM

SBH wrote:

Does anyone know if Saul was forced to shake up his staff after his first losing season? Yes, I'm implying that I think we drop these final two regular season games/our opening MAC tournament game to finish below .500.

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