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   Posted: 1/17/2026 11:51:34 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
And one thing that hasn't been discussed is attendance. High game of the year - 5545 vs Arkansas State which was the first game. We haven't broken 4000 since and the average through 10 home games is 3394. This may be the lowest attendance we've had since the days of Dale Bandy.


I have to think that the continued ease of broadcast accessibility plays at least a minor role in attendance. We still attend as often as possible, but for people that don’t live as close as we do, Hulu/ESPN+ makes watching games far easier than it used to be.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 7:13:16 AM 
FlashGary wrote:
If NIL funding is the issue, why is the football team able to find enough guys to play on a very high level in the MAC and consistently win bowl games? Jeff Boals can coach. My issues have been his seeming disregard for athleticism, and height/length, particularly in the front court. It sure doesn't appear to be a priority among the players signed and recruited. When I covered the NY Knicks' beat for Newsday (NY) around 1984, I remember GM Dave DeBusschere got tired of watching opponents rise up and over his players on the glass on a consistent basis. Eventually he would say to the media, "I've gotta get me some live bodies!" And he did. That's what we need...


Any mention of NY Knicks #22 gets a +1,000 from me. Ferocious player.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 8:22:23 AM 
Ohio69 wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
If NIL funding is the issue, why is the football team able to find enough guys to play on a very high level in the MAC and consistently win bowl games?


Boals Won MAC tourney. Finished 3rd (which gets you a bowl game in football), then 5th (maybe a bowl game), then 2nd (which means MACC appearance and bowl game in football), then 4th (… and another bowl game..)….. Maybe basketball needs bowl games instead….

Things have changed. The NIL $ should be listed next to conference records in the standings…..

Under Boals Ohio is a threat to win MACC most years as a top 3-4 team. He will get several more years before his seat is hot….



The Bobcat football program last four seasons has 26 wins and 6 defeats in regular season league play. The win percentage for football is above 81% for the last four years. Boals conference record isn't nearly as good as the above numbers. His best regular season finish is a third seed sprinkled in with some five seeds.






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   Posted: 1/18/2026 8:33:05 AM 
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.

Last Edited: 1/18/2026 8:35:00 AM by FearLeon

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 8:47:23 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


He would make a good A.D. somewhere.

But the time to rip off the band aid is quickly approaching.

Example: mid-major UNC-Wilmington is 17-2 this morning. Their 39 year old coach's deal: Takayo Siddle's salary as UNCW Men's Basketball Head Coach includes a $300,000 base salary and up to $550,000 in performance bonuses, with a potential total payout potentially reaching $850,000.

Is that not already what is being paid here more or less?
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 9:01:49 AM 
greencat wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


He would make a good A.D. somewhere.

But the time to rip off the band aid is quickly approaching.

Example: mid-major UNC-Wilmington is 17-2 this morning. Their 39 year old coach's deal: Takayo Siddle's salary as UNCW Men's Basketball Head Coach includes a $300,000 base salary and up to $550,000 in performance bonuses, with a potential total payout potentially reaching $850,000.

Is that not already what is being paid here more or less?


I believe Ohio’s next coach needs to be in the 30-33 year old range. Somebody not 42-47 and used to how it was done before portal and NIL.

Last Edited: 1/18/2026 9:02:23 AM by FearLeon

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 9:11:51 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
greencat wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


He would make a good A.D. somewhere.

But the time to rip off the band aid is quickly approaching.

Example: mid-major UNC-Wilmington is 17-2 this morning. Their 39 year old coach's deal: Takayo Siddle's salary as UNCW Men's Basketball Head Coach includes a $300,000 base salary and up to $550,000 in performance bonuses, with a potential total payout potentially reaching $850,000.

Is that not already what is being paid here more or less?


I believe Ohio’s next coach needs to be in the 30-33 year old range. Somebody not 42-47 and used to how it was done before portal and NIL.



George Mason is doing far better with 42 year old Tony Skinn than they did with Kim English who was around 32 (?) there at the time. Not proof that a 32 year old D-1 mid-major HC can't be good, but a solid example of the guy a bit older having a better run at it.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 9:56:22 AM 
greencat wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
greencat wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


He would make a good A.D. somewhere.

But the time to rip off the band aid is quickly approaching.

Example: mid-major UNC-Wilmington is 17-2 this morning. Their 39 year old coach's deal: Takayo Siddle's salary as UNCW Men's Basketball Head Coach includes a $300,000 base salary and up to $550,000 in performance bonuses, with a potential total payout potentially reaching $850,000.

Is that not already what is being paid here more or less?


I believe Ohio’s next coach needs to be in the 30-33 year old range. Somebody not 42-47 and used to how it was done before portal and NIL.



George Mason is doing far better with 42 year old Tony Skinn than they did with Kim English who was around 32 (?) there at the time. Not proof that a 32 year old D-1 mid-major HC can't be good, but a solid example of the guy a bit older having a better run at it.



Kim English is also on the hot seat at Providence. I think he’ll eventually get another HC gig, but his ascendance as one of the next big young coaches on the rise might have been premature.

If and when we do go the route of a new HC, I wouldn’t hate casting a wide net, following Drake’s footsteps, and doing diligence on a top lower level coach that just wins.

Midwest programs like Minnesota State (2024 national champion) and West Liberty in West Virginia are perennial top 5 schools at the D2 level.

Ben Howlett got hired at UI-Indy this past season, but went 217-37 in 8 years at West Liberty. He’s from Marietta and 38 years old.

That said, I suspect Lairchild might look into his South Dakota Sate coaching connections as part of the process. During his 5 year tenure, the program had 4 regular season titles and 2 conference tournament titles.

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 9:59:49 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


Very interesting point and not a criticism by any means. It may be a case of "this is not what I signed up for or thought it would be."

Many of us have taken a job through the years that after a certain amount of time did not align with who we are. Moving on from that is the best thing a person can do if for nothing else, their mental health.

I know I could not coach in a "college setting" where I have to negotiate with an agent on how much I'm going to pay a player. That's no longer college athletics in my mind but semi-pro ball.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 10:02:14 AM 
100%Cat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
And one thing that hasn't been discussed is attendance. High game of the year - 5545 vs Arkansas State which was the first game. We haven't broken 4000 since and the average through 10 home games is 3394. This may be the lowest attendance we've had since the days of Dale Bandy.


I have to think that the continued ease of broadcast accessibility plays at least a minor role in attendance. We still attend as often as possible, but for people that don’t live as close as we do, Hulu/ESPN+ makes watching games far easier than it used to be.


$13 a month for 4 or 5 months is certainly less expensive and more convenient than going to the games plus sit allows one to see the away games too and in my case, games of my former next door neighbor who is at Yale. Is what little we get in TV revenue actually costing us in the long run?
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 10:06:42 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


It’s possible, but I suspect he’s also aware of the lack of success the program is having and it’s probably frustrating.

The portal era probably isn’t fun for a lot of coaches, but it isn’t like our roster is getting poached every cycle to bare bones.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 11:13:57 AM 
I too am a Boals supporter. We knew the portal and NIL BS would put us here. Many of us pulled the fire alarm 3-4 years ago. You don't have to be a genius or be an "insider" to see this doesn't end well for our Bobcats and the MAC.

I say all of that because it does 1000% accelerate burn out for any coach not flush with money and support. Many of you said it...dealing with grease ball agent "wannabees" and, most likely, lawyers would get old for me quick. Do we really have a person on the staff that can migrate the NCAA equivalent of "Moneyball?" We (Ohio) do not have a high-caliber ruthless GM to handle this for the coach.

We also are seeing the obvious disruption of gambling. It just quietly set in several years ago as a "fun" way to make a "few bucks" on the color of shoes a player may sport. BetMGM, bet365, FanDuel, DraftKings and many more come out of the woodwork to help many become addicted to gambling. If a player doesn't get an NIL bag, maybe some quick money is there for the taking by feeding a seemingly worthless act/play during a game? I believe it has been happening and not just because of the recent accusations.

I never thought I would say it but it has worn me out as a fan. Just like we knew after they hit campus, Hendricks and Williams were already on borrowed time. I commend the football staff for being able to play this transfer/NIL portal to OUr benefit (so far). That said, they have more room for error just based on roster size.

Here we are...JJ and Simmons are on borrowed time. My hats off to players like Pav for staying. Dude deserves more credit for that and his outstanding play.

I wouldn't want to coach in the "groundhog day" spiral.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 12:35:29 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
Does anyone think Boals has lost interest being a head coach in the NIL/Portal era? And trust me, if he has, I get it and understand it. If so, he needs to really ask himself what he wants out of this profession moving forward.

To me, something with his demeanor and passion seems off these last 3-4 years. I’m not saying he doesn’t care, but I don’t feel like this is the same Jeff Boals that was introduced as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats in 2019.


This has occurred to me as a possibility. I can't read his mind. I have only one point of reference, which I care not to share the details of (its very subjective), which would make me think that he might be mulling over his options going forward.

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 12:49:31 PM 
People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 1:38:11 PM 
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People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Sure, that's part of the job. Miami does not spend more money on basketball than Ohio.

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 3:00:43 PM 
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People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Honestly, it's a little hard to by sympathetic here.

I shared an auditor's official review of our athletic budget and the operating revenue for the basketball program was ~$2.9m. Boals' salary is about 30% of that.

I know he's not running a traditional business. But the idea of a top exec at a company that burns cash paying themselves 30% of operating funds would be malpractice if you were running an actual company. A board would typically suggest 8-10% for the entire C-Level.

Maybe he'd have more time to focus on coaching basketball and not budget stuff if he was paid in line with the dude at Toledo who he's 1-12 against.

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 3:02:55 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
SBH wrote:
People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Sure, that's part of the job. Miami does not spend more money on basketball than Ohio.



I'm curious how the 2nd year coach at UT-Martin constructed a roster of 80% international players and suddenly is 15-4? One of the best records in mid-major ball. Will they take less $$ because the exchange rate means $20,000 American bucks is worth a zillion point five bub-keys and shekels in the old country? Enough to buy every goat in three villages?

But seriously, Martin is in the middle of nowhere. If they can get international players who win big right off the bat....


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   Posted: 1/18/2026 3:13:27 PM 
how do ya think hunter or oshea would do if they were coaching nowadays with this portal thing. the portal and nil are screwing the low level conferences really bad. now a lower level conference has to try and hope to keep the higher level recruits that they manage. to land. its the same as the mmajor conferences trying to keep players from hitting the nba draft. in otherwords further seperation between and small schools
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 3:22:20 PM 
bobcat 2000 wrote:
how do ya think hunter or oshea would do if they were coaching nowadays with this portal thing. the portal and nil are screwing the low level conferences really bad. now a lower level conference has to try and hope to keep the higher level recruits that they manage. to land. its the same as the mmajor conferences trying to keep players from hitting the nba draft. in otherwords further seperation between and small schools


Instead of trying to be Duke or UConn, a mid-major needs to worry about being the best UNC-Wilmington, UT-Martin, fiami, etc they can be. The first step is not losing to a fellow mid-major team that is 4-13.

Our football program has 7 straight bowl wins while constantly being poached in the portal. The basketball program should be MUCH better than it is under the circumstances of the new reality out there. Isn't the rest of the mid-major world operating under the same conditions??
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 5:19:32 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
SBH wrote:
People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Honestly, it's a little hard to by sympathetic here.

I shared an auditor's official review of our athletic budget and the operating revenue for the basketball program was ~$2.9m. Boals' salary is about 30% of that.

I know he's not running a traditional business. But the idea of a top exec at a company that burns cash paying themselves 30% of operating funds would be malpractice if you were running an actual company. A board would typically suggest 8-10% for the entire C-Level.

Maybe he'd have more time to focus on coaching basketball and not budget stuff if he was paid in line with the dude at Toledo who he's 1-12 against.


Are you saying he should have turned down the money the university offered him? Second, I don't believe NIL funds are reflected in operating budget. I'd bet Miami has 2x what we have for basketball.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 5:50:02 PM 
SBH wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
SBH wrote:
People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Honestly, it's a little hard to by sympathetic here.

I shared an auditor's official review of our athletic budget and the operating revenue for the basketball program was ~$2.9m. Boals' salary is about 30% of that.

I know he's not running a traditional business. But the idea of a top exec at a company that burns cash paying themselves 30% of operating funds would be malpractice if you were running an actual company. A board would typically suggest 8-10% for the entire C-Level.

Maybe he'd have more time to focus on coaching basketball and not budget stuff if he was paid in line with the dude at Toledo who he's 1-12 against.


Are you saying he should have turned down the money the university offered him? Second, I don't believe NIL funds are reflected in operating budget. I'd bet Miami has 2x what we have for basketball.


No, of course not. But if you're the single biggest line item -- by far -- it's a little hard to point fingers at the university for not ponying up money. At some point, we just have the budget we have, and we need to work within this constraints.

NIL definitely isn't reflected in that figure. And I have no doubt Miami spends more. But that's the game now, and it's something anybody running a program has to be measured on.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 5:56:24 PM 
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There is an “influx of international players -- many having played professionally, notably in Europe -- entering” men’s college basketball this year in the “first months of the revenue-sharing era,” according to Aaron Beard of the AP. Thirteen schools with top-20 classes this year “brought in at least one prospect from outside the U.S.,” which is “more than the previous two years combined (seven in 2024, four in 2023).”

Following the House settlement, international prospects can “come to the U.S. and play more -- and make much more money -- than developing through” the junior ranks of a European club. International sports agent Misko Raznatovic said, “Players get offers 10 times higher than in Europe, so it is a very easy decision ... for the players and their families.” Beard notes for college coaches, that has “triggered a gold rush for basketball talent.”

Duke coach Jon Scheyer said, “When you see the rules of eligibility, the way it used to be, that’s out the window. So you might as well look for anybody in Europe and try to get them to come over.” Beard writes Arizona State coach Bobby Hurley saw some of the increase in international players as a “response to economics of players moving through the transfer portal.” Hurley said, “It was very expensive for American players. And international players are very happy making a significant bump from when they were in Europe.” However, Beard notes it “all requires navigating U.S. immigration laws, contracts with international clubs, the NCAA eligibility process and school admissions”

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/11/06... /


With european players and more american college kids hanging around longer that makes for less room for true freshman at the top jobs. Buyouts also are begining to limit mobility.

I'd say stick with Boals and save the buyout money to see if he can get something working in the new environment. In a few years once a mid major gets back into hte Sweet 16 they'll be a moneyball blueprint to follow then make a decision on the coach once the new game is better understood.

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   Posted: 1/18/2026 6:23:45 PM 
bobcat 2000 wrote:
how do ya think hunter or oshea would do if they were coaching nowadays with this portal thing. the portal and nil are screwing the low level conferences really bad. now a lower level conference has to try and hope to keep the higher level recruits that they manage. to land. its the same as the mmajor conferences trying to keep players from hitting the nba draft. in otherwords further seperation between and small schools


It's irrelevant how Hunter or O'Shea would face the current evolution of NCAA coaching, but they certainly made choices as their jobs evolved in their own times. I believed at the time and still do today that the Hunter era became stagnant and he wouldn't change. O'Shea chose to go back East and coach at a lower division before stagnation overwhelmed his tenure.

Meanwhile, there are a couple current coaches in this league with extraordinary longevity. Whether or not you think they're any good, Senderoff and Kowalczyk are absolutely not the same coaches they were 15 years ago.

Boals is at a crossroads. If he doesn't embrace the change, it's going to run him out of the role.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 6:55:50 PM 
SBH wrote:
People don't appreciate how much time/energy Boals has to expend checking under the university community's couch cushions to keep his program afloat.


Agree SBH. Boals is a great guy and works hard in Athens. However, he has not performed up to his top paid salary that our former AD rewarded him. Boals was treated much differently by the former AD than the two time Conference Football Coach of the year. Boals had more NIL cash than the two time MAC Coach of the year and yet underperformed. You, the former AD and many others didn't recognize that. It is because of the former AD, that this buyout is what it is. You and plenty of others continued to support her many blunders. Of course, if constant five seeds and an occasional third place finish floats your boat, so be it.
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   Posted: 1/18/2026 7:07:02 PM 
Maybe your hubby will win two games next year, Brooke.
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