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   Posted: 1/26/2026 12:08:21 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.


Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.




It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."



While you are technically correct that the president could order changes in the way the Ping Center is run, I don't think you understand the nature of university bureaucracy. The Ping Center was setup so that student activities take precedent and the Athletic Department has to beg others to use it. If the president were to change that by executive fiat, she would lose a lot of political capital and the ill will that it would create would be palpable. There would be a similar outcry if she were to put the College of Health Sciences and Professions in charge of the Convocation Center.

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   Posted: 1/26/2026 7:43:31 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.


Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.




It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."



You're out of touch with what today's recruits are demanding, Alan. We had great success in the past without NIL, too. We had great success when our teams were playing in the Bentley Gym. Things change. Recruits and their parents want to see impressive amenities, including practice facilities that offer convenient, 24/7 access. I'm not saying I like it; it's just a fact of life.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 8:36:54 AM 
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.


Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.




It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."



You're out of touch with what today's recruits are demanding, Alan. We had great success in the past without NIL, too. We had great success when our teams were playing in the Bentley Gym. Things change. Recruits and their parents want to see impressive amenities, including practice facilities that offer convenient, 24/7 access. I'm not saying I like it; it's just a fact of life.


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable. The more we drive down that road, the further we get from the reason OU is here - to provide a first class education.I would love to see how many of the players who have exhausted their eligibility in the last 5 years actually have a diploma. Yes, I'm old school but at a state school supported with your tax dollars and mine, we have every right to demand better.

Now I'd get back on my lawn but we are in for a very long and snow covered week. :)
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 9:01:41 AM 
The area on Shaffer between lot 127 and the softball stadium has room for something cost effective like this:

https://gensteel.com/recommended-use/basketball-court/#:~... .
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 9:31:38 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.


Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.




It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."



You're out of touch with what today's recruits are demanding, Alan. We had great success in the past without NIL, too. We had great success when our teams were playing in the Bentley Gym. Things change. Recruits and their parents want to see impressive amenities, including practice facilities that offer convenient, 24/7 access. I'm not saying I like it; it's just a fact of life.


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable. The more we drive down that road, the further we get from the reason OU is here - to provide a first class education.I would love to see how many of the players who have exhausted their eligibility in the last 5 years actually have a diploma. Yes, I'm old school but at a state school supported with your tax dollars and mine, we have every right to demand better.

Now I'd get back on my lawn but we are in for a very long and snow covered week. :)


I'm just telling you what recruits (and parents) apparently are telling Boals and Co. And the investments made by other MAC programs certainly seem to bear this out. I agree with you about the never-ending amenities war and would have absolutely no problem with the university announcing they are stepping back in a big way. I'm wearing my Otterbein sweatshirt today; maybe I'll start following the Cardinals. Of course, they won't offer me a swell green velour blazer I can wear along the sidelines. :)

Regarding your skepticism about the insurance policy: Frank's football team was told by the university that they could not use the newly opened fieldhouse until the contractor eliminated a one-inch lip between the turf and running track. Insurer said it was a serious trip hazard for players.

Last Edited: 1/26/2026 9:34:40 AM by SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Jeff Boals!
   Posted: 1/26/2026 1:13:06 PM 
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
SBH wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.


Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.




It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."



You're out of touch with what today's recruits are demanding, Alan. We had great success in the past without NIL, too. We had great success when our teams were playing in the Bentley Gym. Things change. Recruits and their parents want to see impressive amenities, including practice facilities that offer convenient, 24/7 access. I'm not saying I like it; it's just a fact of life.


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable. The more we drive down that road, the further we get from the reason OU is here - to provide a first class education.I would love to see how many of the players who have exhausted their eligibility in the last 5 years actually have a diploma. Yes, I'm old school but at a state school supported with your tax dollars and mine, we have every right to demand better.

Now I'd get back on my lawn but we are in for a very long and snow covered week. :)


I'm just telling you what recruits (and parents) apparently are telling Boals and Co. And the investments made by other MAC programs certainly seem to bear this out. I agree with you about the never-ending amenities war and would have absolutely no problem with the university announcing they are stepping back in a big way. I'm wearing my Otterbein sweatshirt today; maybe I'll start following the Cardinals. Of course, they won't offer me a swell green velour blazer I can wear along the sidelines. :)

Regarding your skepticism about the insurance policy: Frank's football team was told by the university that they could not use the newly opened fieldhouse until the contractor eliminated a one-inch lip between the turf and running track. Insurer said it was a serious trip hazard for players.


Interesting. So does that mean that the guys we get are the ones who are willing to settle for "sub par" amenities? Just kidding but it does beg the question if that's what they are hearing from recruits and parents.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 1:15:01 PM 
"Hey, remember when you were constantly going on and on about how Bob Boldon getting a new contract was a travesty as well?

Maybe your bad opinions would be better as inside thoughts from now on. Literally nobody else cares to hear you go on and on about how Cromer was a bad AD because like 3 men you’ve (self) reportedly spoken to didn’t get along with their female boss."


Cbarber- It is good to see the womens program performing better after a string of lousy seasons. Four consecutive non winning seasons later, they had nowhere to go but up. Are you the only person permitted to give a "bad opinion"? It is not my fault that you weren't able to speak to former employees about how they were treated by the female AD, who is no longer in Athens. I thought this forum was for all Bobcat fans, not just the privileged few like yourself.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 1:52:14 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable.


Curious if you'd be saying this same thing about the football team if they didn't have an indoor practice facility?

Not saying you do this Alan, but there are people on this board who talk out of both sides of their mouth because there is a clear agenda between football vs. basketball fans. Both programs are fighting the same problems and both are fighting the same budgetary constraints and what it means being a MAC school in today's day and age of college athletics. It seems to me that anytime ideas are brought up to improve the football program nobody bats an eye, because that's just what you have to do to keep up in football.

BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 2:13:30 PM 
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BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.


I don't have any doubt that a very nice practice facility would be better for the program than not having a practice facility. But I also feel like there's a lot of excuse making for Boals' talent deficit. And a willingness on this board to catastrophize the challenges we face and ignore the actual results.

Boals has had more players appear on all-conference teams than anybody but Toledo. Last year, MAC coaches thought he had the most talent in the conference.

Even if the university invests in a practice facility, I'm unconvinced Boals will be able to take advantage of it. There are too many coaches in this conference that are better than him.

Last Edited: 1/26/2026 2:15:17 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 3:01:19 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:


BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.


I don't have any doubt that a very nice practice facility would be better for the program than not having a practice facility. But I also feel like there's a lot of excuse making for Boals' talent deficit. And a willingness on this board to catastrophize the challenges we face and ignore the actual results.

Boals has had more players appear on all-conference teams than anybody but Toledo. Last year, MAC coaches thought he had the most talent in the conference.

Even if the university invests in a practice facility, I'm unconvinced Boals will be able to take advantage of it. There are too many coaches in this conference that are better than him.



I agree with you there. A practice facility is the least of Ohio's problems at it's current state. I don't even think this year's team is necessarily untalented, but the way it's being handled, developed and coached is leaving something to be desired.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 3:57:21 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:


BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.


I don't have any doubt that a very nice practice facility would be better for the program than not having a practice facility. But I also feel like there's a lot of excuse making for Boals' talent deficit. And a willingness on this board to catastrophize the challenges we face and ignore the actual results.

Boals has had more players appear on all-conference teams than anybody but Toledo. Last year, MAC coaches thought he had the most talent in the conference.

Even if the university invests in a practice facility, I'm unconvinced Boals will be able to take advantage of it. There are too many coaches in this conference that are better than him.



Agreed. I’m beating a dead horse over Simmons leaving a school with a practice facility for one without. It helps, no doubt, but I don’t think it hurts as much as people think and it has zero direct correlation with in-game coaching.

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   Posted: 1/26/2026 4:14:49 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable.


Curious if you'd be saying this same thing about the football team if they didn't have an indoor practice facility?

Not saying you do this Alan, but there are people on this board who talk out of both sides of their mouth because there is a clear agenda between football vs. basketball fans. Both programs are fighting the same problems and both are fighting the same budgetary constraints and what it means being a MAC school in today's day and age of college athletics. It seems to me that anytime ideas are brought up to improve the football program nobody bats an eye, because that's just what you have to do to keep up in football.

BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.


I think an indoor facility for football vs a practice facility for basketball is just a tad different. The football facility allows you to practice during the season when the weather prevents you from practicing outside.

And speaking of the football facility, this is what the landing page on the Walter Fieldhouse says:

"Completed in 2014, the Walter Fieldhouse is Campus Recreation's newest facility. The 93,750 square foot indoor multipurpose pavilion houses a 100-yard AstroTurf football field with two 10-yard end zones, two All-American scoreboards, a 4-lane, 316 meter practice track, long jump and pole vault pits, golf and hitting cages, two filming platforms and a netting system that can accommodate multiple and simultaneous events. The Walter Fieldhouse is used for academic classes, OHIO Athletics, Marching 110 practices, Army and Air Force ROTC training, and Intramural and Club Sports."

My point is that it just makes sense to share spaces. Dedicated single use spaces tend to not be very cost efficient. Oh I'm sure we can all think of examples where a single use space is necessary but I don't think that is the case here.

Your point about "clear agendas" is a valid one. For years I was a basketball guy then I became a basketball and volleyball guy. Then I began to appreciate football a bit more including going to the first bowl game and a MAC championship game. The current state of college athletics just isn't all that appealing plus I now have three granddaughters playing club and school sports (I think we have a dozen volleyball tournaments on the calendar on the refrigerator). We all go through phases in our "fandom" and right now, mine doesn't include participating in the arms race when as SBH said and I paraphrase, we might be better off taking a closer look at where we really belong in the hierarchy of things.

Anyway, I appreciate your thoughtful posts.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 5:25:01 PM 
quote:
"we might be better off taking a closer look at where we really belong in the hierarchy of things"

There are lots of mid-majors this season that will get close to or even get 30 wins. They could have thrown in the towel and given up. That was not what they picked. JMU had 32 wins recently iirc, but they had Byington coaching, not Jeff Boals. You know, the Byington guy that won 16 in a row this season at Vandy where they missed the NCAA tourney 7 straight times before he got there.

That was 7 straight misses with a good practice gym.

Maybe practice gym + better coach = NCAA tournament appearances.
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   Posted: 1/26/2026 5:27:03 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:


I don't have any doubt that a very nice practice facility would be better for the program than not having a practice facility. But I also feel like there's a lot of excuse making for Boals' talent deficit. And a willingness on this board to catastrophize the challenges we face and ignore the actual results.

Boals has had more players appear on all-conference teams than anybody but Toledo. Last year, MAC coaches thought he had the most talent in the conference.

Even if the university invests in a practice facility, I'm unconvinced Boals will be able to take advantage of it. There are too many coaches in this conference that are better than him.



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   Posted: 1/27/2026 12:40:41 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:


So if we were to follow that logic, are you saying it's our lack of so called "amenities" that's holding us back from a MAC championship? This arms race to drive the best car on the planet is not sustainable.


Curious if you'd be saying this same thing about the football team if they didn't have an indoor practice facility?

Not saying you do this Alan, but there are people on this board who talk out of both sides of their mouth because there is a clear agenda between football vs. basketball fans. Both programs are fighting the same problems and both are fighting the same budgetary constraints and what it means being a MAC school in today's day and age of college athletics. It seems to me that anytime ideas are brought up to improve the football program nobody bats an eye, because that's just what you have to do to keep up in football.

BTW, the arms race you're talking about happened 10-20 years ago at the power level. I don't think facilities mean as much as they used to, but Ohio not having a dedicated practice space for it's Division I basketball program makes the program look small time. Hard to recruit when that's the case, especially if other coaches who Ohio is recruiting against knows it.


Yes, the football program has an indoor facility. However, the indoor facility is used by baseball, softball, indoor track, band and others.
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   Posted: 1/27/2026 9:22:22 PM 
Is Boals trying to get himself fired at this point?

*Still playing Sheldon 30+ minutes thinking he’s Pete Maravich.

*Kuany gives a spark against Kent State in second half and then sits last 10 minutes of game.

*Gets a T with 5 minutes left down four?

Seriously…WTF is he doing?

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   Posted: 1/27/2026 9:57:34 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
Is Boals trying to get himself fired at this point?

*Still playing Sheldon 30+ minutes thinking he’s Pete Maravich.

*Kuany gives a spark against Kent State in second half and then sits last 10 minutes of game.

*Gets a T with 5 minutes left down four?

Seriously…WTF is he doing?


Practicing psychology without a license, I'd say subconsciously there is some cognitive dissonance going on here. He kind of wants to continue coachng and he kind of wants to sell insurance.

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   Posted: 1/28/2026 12:01:17 AM 
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.
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   Posted: 1/28/2026 1:27:18 AM 
greencat wrote:
The area on Shaffer between lot 127 and the softball stadium has room for something cost effective like this:

https://gensteel.com/recommended-use/basketball-court/#:~... .


I was told the area on Shaffer by the softball field was getting a full field turf field so the Marching 110 finally has a dedicated practice location.
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   Posted: 1/28/2026 9:06:00 AM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.


I don't know if the new AD wants to do two major coaching changes after being on the job for four months, especially in light of the reasoning for the previous one. And firing an alum, who has (yet) to have a below .500 season feels like a risk he might not be willing to make. Boals being a great ambassador of the university, and just a good dude is buying him extra grace.

I bet if you caught him on an off day, no one hates this team more than him. They're maddening to the 10th degree. Of course, a lot of that falls to him, but outside of Sheldon playing Kobe minutes with his wife's skill... what do you do with this roster? This is just a bad team in so many facets. He needs to empty the bench and see what we have (likely it's pretty bad), but we can't allow a team full of seniors to play with the bare minimum of effort.

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Send a message. No one is safe. Hadaway isn't playing like a starter. He sure is shit isn't playing like a senior. Bench. You play 12 minutes until you prove you're worth more. Same goes for everyone. Bench. You play in 3 minutes stretches until you prove you have the effort to play more.

Lose by 50. I don't care. Just show you want to be a college basketball player. No one on this roster is leaving us to go to Florida. They're leaving here and going to John Carroll. I don't care if you're upset. Play better.


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And to add on, next season we need to hammer the portal for toughness. I'm not looking for a decent shooter from App State. I want a 10 rebound guy who broke three noses.

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   Posted: 1/28/2026 9:12:10 AM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
greencat wrote:
The area on Shaffer between lot 127 and the softball stadium has room for something cost effective like this:

https://gensteel.com/recommended-use/basketball-court/#:~... .


I was told the area on Shaffer by the softball field was getting a full field turf field so the Marching 110 finally has a dedicated practice location.


That's going north of Chessa Field. There's a stretch of lawn just south of softball's right field line that could fit a facility.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Jeff Boals!
   Posted: 1/28/2026 9:14:06 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
oubobcatjohn wrote:
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.


I bet if you caught him on an off day, no one hates this team more than him. They're maddening to the 10th degree. Of course, a lot of that falls to him, but outside of Sheldon playing Kobe minutes with his wife's skill... what do you do with this roster? This is just a bad team in so many facets. He needs to empty the bench and see what we have (likely it's pretty bad), but we can't allow a team full of seniors to play with the bare minimum of effort. .


If Boals hates his team, that he built, and is bad on so many facets as you say — then yes, I think that warrants consideration for removal if this team continues to lose.

He was .500 a year ago. If he dips below .500 this year and if most of his bad on so many facets roster returns, doesn’t that indicate he finishes below .500 again with the team, that you think he hates? When does that come to an end?

I’m not trying to be snarky, just repeating back your post.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Jeff Boals!
   Posted: 1/28/2026 9:50:39 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
oubobcatjohn wrote:
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.


I bet if you caught him on an off day, no one hates this team more than him. They're maddening to the 10th degree. Of course, a lot of that falls to him, but outside of Sheldon playing Kobe minutes with his wife's skill... what do you do with this roster? This is just a bad team in so many facets. He needs to empty the bench and see what we have (likely it's pretty bad), but we can't allow a team full of seniors to play with the bare minimum of effort. .


If Boals hates his team, that he built, and is bad on so many facets as you say — then yes, I think that warrants consideration for removal if this team continues to lose.

He was .500 a year ago. If he dips below .500 this year and if most of his bad on so many facets roster returns, doesn’t that indicate he finishes below .500 again with the team, that you think he hates? When does that come to an end?

I’m not trying to be snarky, just repeating back your post.


Often you don't know youre on a sinking ship until your feet get wet.


I'm just saying, I'm certain he's at a loss too. He tried to extend the bench minutes - and they went 4/17. We're sitting here dissecting it like he doesn't see it too. Sometimes it's not all about X's and O's, it's about putting the ball in the hole. And they're not. No one is. I'm just not sure what you do in this situation. Certainly he's to blame for the construction of the roster. Certainly he's to blame for rotations. Certainly hes to blame for many things. But the team shooting 20%... what do you even do? Line them up and make them shoot free throws for three hours?

I don't disagree for a single moment that his seat is hot.

Certainly, his removal will be considered and likely talked about this offseason.

I've just reached a point of what do you do? What do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when his team takes 30 three pointers and gets lucky a handful of times? Tell them to stop shooting? (Honestly a good start). Just have better players? I mean that sounds great. Are they around? Do we have a better players tree out back?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Jeff Boals!
   Posted: 1/28/2026 10:24:51 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
oubobcatjohn wrote:
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.


I bet if you caught him on an off day, no one hates this team more than him. They're maddening to the 10th degree. Of course, a lot of that falls to him, but outside of Sheldon playing Kobe minutes with his wife's skill... what do you do with this roster? This is just a bad team in so many facets. He needs to empty the bench and see what we have (likely it's pretty bad), but we can't allow a team full of seniors to play with the bare minimum of effort. .


If Boals hates his team, that he built, and is bad on so many facets as you say — then yes, I think that warrants consideration for removal if this team continues to lose.

He was .500 a year ago. If he dips below .500 this year and if most of his bad on so many facets roster returns, doesn’t that indicate he finishes below .500 again with the team, that you think he hates? When does that come to an end?

I’m not trying to be snarky, just repeating back your post.


Often you don't know youre on a sinking ship until your feet get wet.


I'm just saying, I'm certain he's at a loss too. He tried to extend the bench minutes - and they went 4/17. We're sitting here dissecting it like he doesn't see it too. Sometimes it's not all about X's and O's, it's about putting the ball in the hole. And they're not. No one is. I'm just not sure what you do in this situation. Certainly he's to blame for the construction of the roster. Certainly he's to blame for rotations. Certainly hes to blame for many things. But the team shooting 20%... what do you even do? Line them up and make them shoot free throws for three hours?

I don't disagree for a single moment that his seat is hot.

Certainly, his removal will be considered and likely talked about this offseason.

I've just reached a point of what do you do? What do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when his team takes 30 three pointers and gets lucky a handful of times? Tell them to stop shooting? (Honestly a good start). Just have better players? I mean that sounds great. Are they around? Do we have a better players tree out back?


I think we've reached the point where if Boals doesn't go this offseason, the AD has to force changes to the assistant staff. I don't have any suggestion for who amongst the group but that seems like a standard page out of most AD playbooks.

I'm a Boals guy on the personal side of things. Great dude, easy to talk to, and a great ambassador for our university. I want him to be our guy long term, but this year has been so painful and last year so disappointing that something has to give.

There are tons of problems, but one that almost always glosses over other issues is making shots. We are an AWFUL shooting team. Putrid. Improve that one thing and instead of 11-11 we're 15-7 at least and we're really not having this conversation.

Does anyone remember what it felt like when Tommy Freeman, Jordan Dartis or Nick Kellogg pulled up from deep? I was excited. Now....a feeling of dread when most of our guys shoot the ball. If we do nothing else for next year, we have to find guys who can shoot the 3.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Jeff Boals!
   Posted: 1/28/2026 10:28:46 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
oubobcatjohn wrote:
I see them parting ways with Boals. He get out coached by most MAC schools. Players poorly coach. Lack of attention to detail. Boals like a top coach, but hasn't beaten the top the MAC.


I bet if you caught him on an off day, no one hates this team more than him. They're maddening to the 10th degree. Of course, a lot of that falls to him, but outside of Sheldon playing Kobe minutes with his wife's skill... what do you do with this roster? This is just a bad team in so many facets. He needs to empty the bench and see what we have (likely it's pretty bad), but we can't allow a team full of seniors to play with the bare minimum of effort. .


If Boals hates his team, that he built, and is bad on so many facets as you say — then yes, I think that warrants consideration for removal if this team continues to lose.

He was .500 a year ago. If he dips below .500 this year and if most of his bad on so many facets roster returns, doesn’t that indicate he finishes below .500 again with the team, that you think he hates? When does that come to an end?

I’m not trying to be snarky, just repeating back your post.


Often you don't know youre on a sinking ship until your feet get wet.


I'm just saying, I'm certain he's at a loss too. He tried to extend the bench minutes - and they went 4/17. We're sitting here dissecting it like he doesn't see it too. Sometimes it's not all about X's and O's, it's about putting the ball in the hole. And they're not. No one is. I'm just not sure what you do in this situation. Certainly he's to blame for the construction of the roster. Certainly he's to blame for rotations. Certainly hes to blame for many things. But the team shooting 20%... what do you even do? Line them up and make them shoot free throws for three hours?

I don't disagree for a single moment that his seat is hot.

Certainly, his removal will be considered and likely talked about this offseason.

I've just reached a point of what do you do? What do you want him to do? What do you want him to do when his team takes 30 three pointers and gets lucky a handful of times? Tell them to stop shooting? (Honestly a good start). Just have better players? I mean that sounds great. Are they around? Do we have a better players tree out back?


I think the answer to what you do you do is move on if the trend continues. I know I sound overly negative about Boals, but when things just aren't working with a coaching staff anymore it usually indicates you need to blow it up and start over.

Both Boals and the program could probably use a fresh start. Him being an alum unfortunately complicates the matter, but I don't see him righting the ship next season or even beyond. Might as well start the rebuilding process sooner than later. If in fact, the goal is to get back on par with Akron, Kent, and Miami.

Currently, Boals is 66-44 in his last 4 seasons in a downward trend and he's exactly .500 his last 54 games. Saul was 71-47 in four seasons after his first year before getting fired. Granted, he went back-to-back seasons with 14-17 records, those came off the heels of a 23 and 20 win seasons. Boals has just one 20 win season in the same span.

If we remove the Bobcat alum title from Boals resume, are we really giving him that much grace at this point?

Last Edited: 1/28/2026 10:42:19 AM by FJC31
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