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Topic: RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Topic: RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

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Athens
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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/22/2026 2:57:49 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

TWT wrote:

. . .Miami can spend that 8 million more on their football roster but its not going to get them really anything they don't have now a team that can challenge for a MAC Championship.

Oh, I wouldn't bet on that.

I would be the farm that performance doesn't scale with spending. UNLV spent 20 million and they were controled by in the Frisco Bowl by Ohio. What the spending can do is take a program from the bottom of the conference and give them the type of roster that can compete for a conference championship. Basketball is the same way St. Louis and VCU spent 3-4 million on their basketball roster and the outcome in the tournament was no different than Miami and Akron spending far less.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/22/2026 3:02:10 PM

TWT wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

TWT wrote:

. . .Miami can spend that 8 million more on their football roster but its not going to get them really anything they don't have now a team that can challenge for a MAC Championship.

Oh, I wouldn't bet on that.

I would be the farm that performance doesn't scale with spending. UNLV spent 20 million and they were control ed by in the Frisco Bowl by Ohio. What the spending can do is take a program from the bottom of the conference and give them the type of roster that can compete for a conference championship. Basketball is the same way St. Louis and VCU spent 3-4 million on their basketball roster and the outcome in the tournament was no different than Miami and Akron spending far less.

We shall see, my brother-in-law is a Miami graduate and lives in Oxford. (Every family has to have its black sheep.) And, the information I'm getting from him indicates that your UNLV analogy might not hold true in football.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/22/2026 3:15:09 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

TWT wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

TWT wrote:

. . .Miami can spend that 8 million more on their football roster but its not going to get them really anything they don't have now a team that can challenge for a MAC Championship.

Oh, I wouldn't bet on that.

I would be the farm that performance doesn't scale with spending. UNLV spent 20 million and they were control ed by in the Frisco Bowl by Ohio. What the spending can do is take a program from the bottom of the conference and give them the type of roster that can compete for a conference championship. Basketball is the same way St. Louis and VCU spent 3-4 million on their basketball roster and the outcome in the tournament was no different than Miami and Akron spending far less.

A lot of people also predicted that Liberty, because of their almost unlimited resources as one of the few private schools in the G6, would run CUSA into the ground and go the playoff with ease.

They went 4-8 last year.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/22/2026 3:18:51 PM

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I believe state capital funds cannot be used for dorms. Only academic infrastructure.

You appear to be correct on this matter. I checked and found out in the last biennium Ohio received $56 million in capital improvement funds from the General Assembly. Most of these funds were used for the construction of a new three-story, 120,000-square-foot building for the Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine. The new building, now under construction, is located on Union Street near main medical school building. Additionally, the funds also supported the renovation of the Human Resources Training Center. I think that this is in the west wing of Grosvenor Hall.

Do you have an article that supports the 56 million from the general assembly? It appears to me its a one off spot contribution from the state rather dependable money source for buildings. For that reason I definitely wouldn't count it as money the university can rely on. The University has wanted to fill the open lot behind BW3s for years since tearing down the building on that spot but according to the university its required a donation from the business college for that one to start building.

Look up the capital improvements budget for last biennium. I don't have time to find the URL again, it takes some shifting through a massive pdf file to find the right line items. Once you get to the right page, you'll see the money is clearly listed.

The capital improvement budget is voted on every two years by the General Assembly. There is no set formula, it's whatever the university lobbyist can get their favorite legislator to sponsor and get through the legislature. So, no it can't be depended upon in any literal sense, but the university has been requesting and receiving this money for years, some years they get more and some years less, depending on need and on the acumen of the university's lobbyists.

The osteopathic college was a favorite of the General Assembly in years past, in part, because of the lobbying skills of the late George Dunigan. George was very instrumental in getting the legislature to pass the bill creating our medical school. He was an employee of the Ohio Osteopathic Association at that time. Later, he was so good at his job that he became an employee of the medical school and lobbied not only for medical school projects but for other Ohio University projects. One time the Columbus Citizen-Journal published a list of the top ten lobbyist in Ohio and George was on that list!

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/22/2026 5:09:28 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

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OhioCatFan wrote:

SBH wrote:

I believe state capital funds cannot be used for dorms. Only academic infrastructure.

Interesting story. That goes to show how one person can make a big difference. I'm not sure what open projects the university has that could receive a state contribution as the academic ones are already done/accounted for. Research institutes perhaps if the demand can be justified.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/23/2026 10:24:05 AM

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The question is what role does athletics play? For many D3/NAIA colleges having athletics is a direct way of increasing enrollment by attracting students to play the sports. At a D1 university I would argue athletics is more about bringing alumni back to campus. The size and condition of the arena and stadium ends up being a point of pride for alumni. In recruiting the new facilities will help to keep up because the university doesn't have practice courts or a training table currently. Also based on my observation NIL money doesn't have the same impact for mid-majors because of the ceiling on recruiting at that level. Miami can spend that 8 million more on their football roster but its not going to get them really anything they don't have now a team that can challenge for a MAC Championship.

Fair enough but would you concede that having a team that is frisky and feels like they belong on the same floor as a P4-5 'decent' team would get the alumni more engaged than playing in the Lawnmower bowl and getting the brakes beat off of us in the 1st round of an NCAA tourney only to turn the entire roster over the next year? I don't disagree that decent facilities are a recruiting draw but when the system is fundementally broken for mid-majors seems like throwing good money after bad.

Last Edited: 4/23/2026 10:24:44 AM by JAF

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/23/2026 8:53:28 PM

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Throwing good money after bad is what Miami is doing with its 8 million dollar football NIL roster. Most of those players will be gone or wash out after one year. Eight million flushed down the drain.

Basketball is different in many ways. The ceiling on what top mid majors are spending is much lower, 3-4 million with revenue sharing and third party NIL combined. This is because revenue sharing at those places is tracking with revenue and its very limited for basketball. Spending 3 million though on a roster with 15 players is equivalent to spending 21 million in football so I can see where its possible to have more bang for dollar in basketball. Then its not as much of an arms race since nobody is adding basketball revenue down in the mids significantly.

Football spending is driven by the P4 and destined to accelerate whether the revenues are there or not. With the direction its going more conferences are going to have minimum spending requirements. I can see a situation in the near future where a conference like the Sun Belt sets a minimum spending floor of 10 million. Miami and Ohio are rumored to be interested in the SBC and this would be the main reason why because of lower MAC commitments to spend.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/29/2026 7:35:47 PM

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I'll say it again - the administration does not care about sports. They care about academics (good) and profit. They care about football inasmuch as it provides profit. Everyone else? Good luck to ya, because you're not even an afterthought. More like a nuisance.

Agree Graff! If the President were Rod McDavis or Nellis it would be different story. The current President is lacking in leadership skills. Read a copy of the most recent University student newspaper and you will find out what students and faculty think of the current President.

Last Edited: 4/29/2026 7:37:58 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/29/2026 8:49:16 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

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Anyone who cites Nellis as an effective president with leadership skills has ruined any crediblity they have left! McDavis, Glidden and Ping were good leaders. Nellis was an empty suit. I believe that he's probably a good professor of geography, but as president he was out of his element. I've had personal experience with all three men, so I'm not just speaking of the basis of hearsay.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/30/2026 8:30:48 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

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This is something that we can agree on OCF. We actually agree on a few things.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 4/30/2026 11:14:40 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

GraffZ06 wrote:

This is something that we can agree on OCF. We actually agree on a few things.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/1/2026 8:16:57 PM

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Not sure your buddy Coach Solich would agree with you OCF. He never had any problems with President Nellis. And if Nellis was out of his element what is that saying about Gonzalez?

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/1/2026 11:08:45 PM

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Not sure your buddy Coach Solich would agree with you OCF. He never had any problems with President Nellis. And if Nellis was out of his element what is that saying about Gonzalez?

Nellis was afraid of Solich. He knew Solich had more leadership skills and more understanding of the institution than he did. The fact that he never gave the head football coach any problems is not a mark of great leadership.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/2/2026 3:04:25 AM

Nellis was just following in Gordon Gee�s footsteps.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/2/2026 6:43:42 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

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Bobcat1996 wrote:

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Not sure your buddy Coach Solich would agree with you OCF. He never had any problems with President Nellis. And if Nellis was out of his element what is that saying about Gonzalez?

We get it. You hate it when women are in charge. Pathetic.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/3/2026 5:46:10 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

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Bobcat1996 wrote:

GraffZ06 wrote:

Not sure your buddy Coach Solich would agree with you OCF. He never had any problems with President Nellis. And if Nellis was out of his element what is that saying about Gonzalez?

Michael -- your thoughts on Cromer while generally not correct, were at least based on your friendship with Tim. Gonzalez has done a better job than Nellis. There isn't a person on campus - from athletics, to faculty, to staff - that disagree. While she has her problems and I wish she was more outwardly pro athletics, she has been lightyears ahead of Nellis who was the worst president in the last 100 years.

Using the students protest -- which is a very liberal stance - to criticize Gonzalez is comical considering your voting record.

Now, I beg you. Either go spend the season on the Charlotte sideline like you did last year, or work with the new male AD to raise some money like you said you were going to. You should have no problem getting along with the leadership since you hate women so much.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/4/2026 12:18:41 AM

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. . . While she has her problems and I wish she was more outwardly pro athletics, she has been lightyears ahead of Nellis who was the worst president in the last 100 years. . . .

Are you giving Sowle a pass, or something? Nellis was kind of a place holder. He didn't do much good, but he didn't flush the university down the toilet either. He was never found drunk in the gutter in Columbus after a Board of Trustees meeting. He didn't tear the university appart, pitting one college and against another with public budget hearings that produced wounds that took decades to heal. He wasn't so inept as an administrator that he let one branch campus get a public divorce from institution and become its own university. He didn't try to abolish the College of Engineering at a time when the demand for engineers was going up and the supply was going down. He didn't abolish the varsity Hockey program and deep six the School of Architecture. Yes, Sowle was here during some difficult years, but he managed to make the worst of a bad situation. If Charlie Ping had been president during that tumultuous period, much of the damage of the Sowle Era could have been prevented. Compared to Sowle, Nellis was Robert Hutchins, boy wonder president of the University of Chicago in the 1930s.

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RE: Slade Larscheid presenting to BOT today

Posted: 5/5/2026 9:24:15 AM

I did see we picked up Tennessee in football for 2030 within the meeting

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