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Even my quick googling paired with what I recall of NFL players suffering injuries is that the surgery comes weeks after the injury, after swelling has come down. I'd love to have a medical professional answer this, but I highly doubt an ACL surgery would occur in the hours after the injury. If it was performed last week, that means that it would've been done in the 72 or so hours following the injury. That seems highly skeptical. Again I say, I do not blame the skepticism...but I will continue to defend the idea. It seems quite plausible that this is a non-traumatic tear with minimal swelling, as supported by Albin saying Wed there was no swelling. Piecing all our info together, I think the MRI scan revealed the ligament damage and they said the area appears ready for surgery and we can fit you in right away (with next fall in mind). Keeping this info from the public could come down to wanting to keep BG guessing...or it could be as simple as we literally do not have anyone doing actual journalistic work on the Bobcats so no one with any credentials has asked / had anything to report and everyone else doesn't feel authorized to publicly give such news. I'm not directing the skepticism directly at you personally, but you did just drop an ACL bomb on here an hour or two ago to get things swirling. We've all been under the assumption it's a knee sprain and then you threw a credible source post with that little nugget. Back to Top spongeBOB CATpants General User Member Since: 8/16/2016 Post Count: 945 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 3:59:22 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Kevin Finnegan wrote: My issue with this isn't that the injury seems far-fetched or out of line from what I thought in the immediate moments after the injury, my questioning is the statement that he already had ACL surgery last week. Even my quick googling paired with what I recall of NFL players suffering injuries is that the surgery comes weeks after the injury, after swelling has come down. I'd love to have a medical professional answer this, but I highly doubt an ACL surgery would occur in the hours after the injury. If it was performed last week, that means that it would've been done in the 72 or so hours following the injury. That seems highly skeptical. Keeping this info from the public could come down to wanting to keep BG guessing...or it could be as simple as we literally do not have anyone doing actual journalistic work on the Bobcats so no one with any credentials has asked / had anything to report and everyone else doesn't feel authorized to publicly give such news. This was my crazy conspiracy since the day after the game. Why wouldn't Albin tell everybody that Rourke is good to go? Is there any sort of rule he is breaking by telling a little white lie? If the media were to ask him why he was being optimistic on Rourke's status, he could easily deflect to "I didn't know for sure." Back to Top Eagle66 General User Member Since: 3/13/2005 Post Count: 1,329 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 4:01:47 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Kevin Finnegan wrote: My issue with this isn't that the injury seems far-fetched or out of line from what I thought in the immediate moments after the injury, my questioning is the statement that he already had ACL surgery last week. Even my quick googling paired with what I recall of NFL players suffering injuries is that the surgery comes weeks after the injury, after swelling has come down. I'd love to have a medical professional answer this, but I highly doubt an ACL surgery would occur in the hours after the injury. If it was performed last week, that means that it would've been done in the 72 or so hours following the injury. That seems highly skeptical. Again I say, I do not blame the skepticism...but I will continue to defend the idea. It seems quite plausible that this is a non-traumatic tear with minimal swelling, as supported by Albin saying Wed there was no swelling. Piecing all our info together, I think the MRI scan revealed the ligament damage and they said the area appears ready for surgery and we can fit you in right away (with next fall in mind). Keeping this info from the public could come down to wanting to keep BG guessing...or it could be as simple as we literally do not have anyone doing actual journalistic work on the Bobcats so no one with any credentials has asked / had anything to report and everyone else doesn't feel authorized to publicly give such news. So, this begs the question: Who was your source? Obvously, we don't expect a name, but you haven't even given us anything as vague as "an informed source," or even "former equipment manager." My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Kurtis pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious. #SaveFerris Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 4:16:27 PM  Eagle66 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Kevin Finnegan wrote: My issue with this isn't that the injury seems far-fetched or out of line from what I thought in the immediate moments after the injury, my questioning is the statement that he already had ACL surgery last week. Even my quick googling paired with what I recall of NFL players suffering injuries is that the surgery comes weeks after the injury, after swelling has come down. I'd love to have a medical professional answer this, but I highly doubt an ACL surgery would occur in the hours after the injury. If it was performed last week, that means that it would've been done in the 72 or so hours following the injury. That seems highly skeptical. Again I say, I do not blame the skepticism...but I will continue to defend the idea. It seems quite plausible that this is a non-traumatic tear with minimal swelling, as supported by Albin saying Wed there was no swelling. Piecing all our info together, I think the MRI scan revealed the ligament damage and they said the area appears ready for surgery and we can fit you in right away (with next fall in mind). Keeping this info from the public could come down to wanting to keep BG guessing...or it could be as simple as we literally do not have anyone doing actual journalistic work on the Bobcats so no one with any credentials has asked / had anything to report and everyone else doesn't feel authorized to publicly give such news. So, this begs the question: Who was your source? Obvously, we don't expect a name, but you haven't even given us anything as vague as "an informed source," or even "former equipment manager." My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Kurtis pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious. #SaveFerris Well, I have it more directly from the roommate of the kid who is going with the girl who saw Kurtis, but he says that his roommate said that she said that he was running up Jeff Hill (Putnam Hill to us oldtimers) and fell down and broke his collarbone and had surgery on it on Friday. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 4:42:59 PM  Victory wrote: Turney13 wrote: Vegas is still at -7 -- my guess is they would know if he wasn't playing and the spread would have moved much lower. IMO, this is a little closer to what the spread would be if the bets were expecting Harris, harder to know but I think around 4 or 5, and if Rourke were 100% which I expect 11 or 12. I think Albin has managed to keep if we have 90% Rourke, extremely hobbled Rourke and Harris, or just Harris a good secret. This tip sheet leads me to believe that 7 is just an amalgamation of all possibilities - Rourke at 90%, Rourke seriously hampered by injury, or no Rourke at all - and nobody outside the team actually knows anything. https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story/2022/... / As I have been saying, I agree with "Bowling Green is 6-5, but this is not a very good team." If we lose tonight I hope Buffalo beats Kent St. I don't have any issue rooting for one school with respect to the other it is just that Buffalo is a much, much better team and Rourke's injury, to me, is just another is a series of lucky breaks that are helping keep a very bad team alive in a weak conference. I'd hate to see this continue and Bowling Green represent the MAC in the bowls as its champion and humiliate the conference by losing by 45 to Boise St., or Tulane, or Troy......I'm not sure any MAC team (Ohio, Toledo, Buffalo) is going to fare well in a matchup like that this year but they'll be a much lesser underdog than BG. I thought that the Buffalo snow storm was might be another gift from on high to help make that happen, and although I disagree with the MAC's policy on this, I am thankful for it in this case. Buffalo probably wasn't going to lose to Akron and we don't need BG getting any more motivation, help, or breaks. Last Edited: 11/22/2022 6:07:26 PM by Victory Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 4:53:01 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Use this thread for any and all updates and speculation regarding the status of our beloved leader's knee..... A very apt title you chose for this thread. In the end, Ohio needs to beat BG with, or without Rourke, and BG will be beaten. Go Bobcats. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top El Gato Roberto General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,070 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 4:55:21 PM  L.C. wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Use this thread for any and all updates and speculation regarding the status of our beloved leader's knee..... A very apt title you chose for this thread. In the end, Ohio needs to beat BG with, or without Rourke, and BG will be beaten. Go Bobcats. Now that’s what I’m talking about!! PASS THE DOGGONE KOOL-ADE, L.C!! GO BOBCATS!! "The name's Ohio University, but everybody calls me Ohio. Any of you guys call me Ohio U, and I'll kill you." Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 5:46:36 PM  One reporter claims Rourke is out. https://twitter.com/JustinFeldkamp/status/159518384198295... Back to Top Trevor Stephens General User Member Since: 12/13/2017 Post Count: 249 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 5:55:47 PM  Victory wrote: One reporter claims Rourke is out. https://twitter.com/JustinFeldkamp/status/159518384198295... He a BGSU reporter who covers their games. Back to Top 72 Guy General User Member Since: 11/19/2022 Post Count: 9 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:01:37 PM  OK, a BG guy. But if accurate, that would mean some pretty fair journalism beating a whole bunch of others to the punch. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:06:00 PM  He's also an Ohio Alum. Vegas Line as fallen 1 to 1.5 points in the last half hour or so depending where you look. I'd think this is credible. Back to Top boydhallbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 277 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:48:33 PM  I’m here.. he’s out.. I don’t even see him on the sidelines Back to Top joefromperry General User Member Since: 10/5/2013 Location: Perry, OH Post Count: 95 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:49:18 PM  listening to Russ and Rob doing pregame, Rourke is definitely out. They didn't offer any other info. Back to Top lovebobcat General User Member Since: 12/23/2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 505 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:53:01 PM  Statement from the team. Sounds season-ending. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball/status/15952028801302200... Back to Top RufusCat09 General User Member Since: 12/14/2019 Post Count: 636 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 6:56:33 PM  Tough break. Defense better step up tonight and help out our offense which I assume will be rather vanilla. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,782 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 7:07:52 PM  lovebobcat wrote: Statement from the team. Sounds season-ending. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball/status/15952028801302200... Rourke is out for the season, but not using crutches anywhere on campus? Someone should answer for this extreme failure. Even if it's Kurtis. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 904 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 7:10:24 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: lovebobcat wrote: Statement from the team. Sounds season-ending. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball/status/15952028801302200... Rourke is out for the season, but not using crutches anywhere on campus? Someone should answer for this extreme failure. Even if it's Kurtis. Chess game. Needed to keep BG on their toes. And a dual QB with hardly any tape isnt too bad. Hopefully we protect the ball and call a run-balanced game. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,782 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 7:31:10 PM  ExCat21 wrote: M.D.W.S.T wrote: lovebobcat wrote: Statement from the team. Sounds season-ending. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball/status/15952028801302200... Rourke is out for the season, but not using crutches anywhere on campus? Someone should answer for this extreme failure. Even if it's Kurtis. Chess game. Needed to keep BG on their toes. And a dual QB with hardly any tape isnt too bad. Hopefully we protect the ball and call a run-balanced game. You think they knowingly asked Rourke to walk around on a torn ACL in order to throw off the 106th ranked defense? Back to Top PhiTau74 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Columbia, SC Post Count: 455 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 8:06:32 PM  Tore his meniscus, I swear that’s what I thought because I tore mine and in a similar fashion. I was actually in a hotel in Hong Kong leaving the hotel with a couple of heavy bags, made a slight turn of my body and boom. Excruciating pain and barely made it back to the US, took the golf cart in Atlanta because I couldn’t walk. Had the MRI and they said rest, try and rehab or we can snip it but you may not be able to run long distance again. Now 70 and still run 20 miles a week, I was about 45 when I tore mine. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 904 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 8:09:36 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: ExCat21 wrote: M.D.W.S.T wrote: lovebobcat wrote: Statement from the team. Sounds season-ending. https://twitter.com/OhioFootball/status/15952028801302200... Rourke is out for the season, but not using crutches anywhere on campus? Someone should answer for this extreme failure. Even if it's Kurtis. Chess game. Needed to keep BG on their toes. And a dual QB with hardly any tape isnt too bad. Hopefully we protect the ball and call a run-balanced game. You think they knowingly asked Rourke to walk around on a torn ACL in order to throw off the 106th ranked defense? No, I dont't think they knew how bad it was at the time (and if they did, they played if off). But maybe Rourke didnt want to go out on crutches to keep the team spirits up during the game. Put on a smile for everyone. Sometimes leaders do that. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 1,782 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 8:13:23 PM  PhiTau74 wrote: Tore his meniscus, I swear that’s what I thought because I tore mine and in a similar fashion. I was actually in a hotel in Hong Kong leaving the hotel with a couple of heavy bags, made a slight turn of my body and boom. Excruciating pain and barely made it back to the US, took the golf cart in Atlanta because I couldn’t walk. Had the MRI and they said rest, try and rehab or we can snip it but you may not be able to run long distance again. Now 70 and still run 20 miles a week, I was about 45 when I tore mine. He said on air he tore his ACL and meniscus. We’ll be lucky to see him by October next year. Back to Top joefromperry General User Member Since: 10/5/2013 Location: Perry, OH Post Count: 95 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 8:54:01 PM  Not as worried about that now after seeing Harris get more comfortable. Back to Top El Gato Roberto General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,070 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 8:56:42 PM  I’m gonna say it…This is a well-coached team. Interchangeable parts. Maturity. Poise. They are the whole package. Extend Albin. "The name's Ohio University, but everybody calls me Ohio. Any of you guys call me Ohio U, and I'll kill you." Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 9:03:26 PM  I apologize to Andrew. His source was obviously impeccable. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BuddyLee General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 668 Status: Offline     RE: Obsessive Rourke Injury Watch    Posted: 11/22/2022 9:26:58 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: PhiTau74 wrote: Tore his meniscus, I swear that’s what I thought because I tore mine and in a similar fashion. I was actually in a hotel in Hong Kong leaving the hotel with a couple of heavy bags, made a slight turn of my body and boom. Excruciating pain and barely made it back to the US, took the golf cart in Atlanta because I couldn’t walk. Had the MRI and they said rest, try and rehab or we can snip it but you may not be able to run long distance again. Now 70 and still run 20 miles a week, I was about 45 when I tore mine. He said on air he tore his ACL and meniscus. We’ll be lucky to see him by October next year. Dang, that's worst case injury news. ACL is typically a year for full recovery by itself. Fingers crossed we can hopefully see him at some point next season. 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