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  Message Not Read  Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 10:47:23 PM 

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: December 3rd, 2022 12:00 PM

Opponent: Toledo  (7-4, 5-2 MAC)

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 10:52:53 PM 
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:24:28 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:27:28 PM 
Ohio simply can’t be beaten by anyone in the MAC. It’s that simple. I don’t care if Finn is back for Toledo or not, it won’t matter. Ohio is just too good and is winning this game. Period. End of story.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:30:19 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:36:22 PM 
Anyone going to the game? Might be your chance to see history.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:41:34 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


Yes, they held QB out. Mr. Exuberant, after like 5 years, may be correct with his optimism this year. A clock is right twice a day so he deserves to be right once.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:46:24 PM 
BuddyLee wrote:
Anyone going to the game? Might be your chance to see history.


Yep - No way I am missing this one

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/22/2022 11:59:17 PM 
I agree that this team is motivated and poised to win the MAC.
The Bobcats looked like men playing against boys tonight. If they play this way in the remaining 2 games they just might end up with an 11 win season, but one at a time... win the MAC
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   Posted: 11/23/2022 12:56:50 AM 
Why not us?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 7:45:18 AM 
Bobcat living in Detroit….you bet you green and white ass I’ll be there
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 8:34:21 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


And as well established, ESPN guys are always dialed in on the MAC. Toledo vs. BG is a serious mid-major rivalry, no way was Toledo bagging that game to just rest players.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 8:51:37 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


Finn was not held out, he was ruled out because he wasn’t cleared to play because of an ankle injury. He was in a walking boot on the sidelines from an ankle injury he suffered in the Ball State game. He was really laboring with his movement. He also missed the EMU game the week before because of a shoulder injury he suffered on the final play of the Buffalo game. He’s been really banged up since that Buffalo game and his play has taken a turn. He was tearing it up heading into the Buffalo game but got really roughed up and also had 4 pics. Since then he’s missed 2 of 4 games and hasn’t looked the same as he did prior to UB.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 9:24:26 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is . . . WHETHER DETROIT HAS A SHUTTLE TO FORD FIELD.


Fixed that for you.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 9:40:36 AM 
This feels like the MAC Championship that should have happened two or three times already given the consistency and trajectory of both programs over the last 10-15 years. Kinda feels like a culmination of sorts.

Like Lizzo says, "It's about damn time."
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   Posted: 11/23/2022 9:51:37 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
This feels like the MAC Championship that should have happened two or three times already given the consistency and trajectory of both programs over the last 10-15 years. Kinda feels like a culmination of sorts.

Like Lizzo says, "It's about damn time."


+1

This is the matchup I've been waiting for. Has potential to draw a nice crowd with Toledo being next door to Detroit. Hope the Bobcat faithful show up in full force and give these guys the support they have earned.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 9:55:17 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


Finn was not held out, he was ruled out because he wasn’t cleared to play because of an ankle injury. He was in a walking boot on the sidelines from an ankle injury he suffered in the Ball State game. He was really laboring with his movement. He also missed the EMU game the week before because of a shoulder injury he suffered on the final play of the Buffalo game. He’s been really banged up since that Buffalo game and his play has taken a turn. He was tearing it up heading into the Buffalo game but got really roughed up and also had 4 pics. Since then he’s missed 2 of 4 games and hasn’t looked the same as he did prior to UB.


You can tell by the results its not the same Toledo team that it was early in the season.

CMU 38-17 (W)
NIU 53-32 (W)
KSU 52-31 (W)

UB 34-27 (L)
EMU 27-24 (W)
BSU 28-21 (W)
BG 42-35 (L)

They've moved from 3-0 scoring 47.7ppg to 2-2 scoring 29.2ppg. Big drop off in production and that production was produced against 3 of the better defensive teams in the MAC (CMU, NIU, KSU). At this point Toledo is likely a TD better than BSU but represents some of the toughest competition Ohio's had this season.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/23/2022 11:50:33 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


Finn was not held out, he was ruled out because he wasn’t cleared to play because of an ankle injury. He was in a walking boot on the sidelines from an ankle injury he suffered in the Ball State game. He was really laboring with his movement. He also missed the EMU game the week before because of a shoulder injury he suffered on the final play of the Buffalo game. He’s been really banged up since that Buffalo game and his play has taken a turn. He was tearing it up heading into the Buffalo game but got really roughed up and also had 4 pics. Since then he’s missed 2 of 4 games and hasn’t looked the same as he did prior to UB.


I wouldn't give too much credence to anything an ESPN announcer says during a midweek MACtion game. Half the time they're not even at the site. Having grown up in Ohio's Great Northwest I know first hand that the BG-Toledo game is the only one that matters for the players, fans and alumni of both schools. A coach for either team who holds out healthy players from that game would wind up with a mouth full of Maumee Bay algae.

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   Posted: 11/23/2022 12:46:49 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is . . . WHETHER DETROIT HAS A SHUTTLE TO FORD FIELD.


Fixed that for you.


Well, if Toledo has shuttle buses from the hotel to the game and OHIO doesn't, my wife will tell me that's a sign we are going to lose. However, I must point out that last night before the game she said we could not possibly win without Rourke. So, her football predicting ability is about on par with most of us here on BA -- lousy! ;-)

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   Posted: 11/23/2022 2:28:01 PM 
I’ll be there +3
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   Posted: 11/23/2022 4:20:52 PM 
OU offering a student bus trip for $20 which leaves from convo at 6am day of game.
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   Posted: 11/23/2022 4:39:52 PM 
Ohio Information:

MAC Football Championship Bobcat Bash - http://engage.ohio.edu/site/Calendar?xd_co_f=Y2RhMjQxOTYt...

Tickets - https://ohiobobcats.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEv... =

Purchase tickets for the MAC Championship game here to secure your seats in Ohio's allotment (Sections 104-108). Seat locations will be determined by your Ohio Bobcat Club Priority Points status and ranking. Toledo allotted tickets are located in Section 125-129.

The deadline to purchase tickets and be included in the Ohio Bobcat Club Priority Points seating allocation is Monday, November 28th at 5:00 pm. If you would like to increase your priority points status and ranking prior to the deadline, click on Donate Now above and make your contribution to the Ohio Bobcat Club Annual Fund.

There is a maximum purchase limit of four (4) tickets per account. If you are looking to purchase more than four (4) tickets, please note that in the Comments sections during your online ticket purchase and we will notify you if we are able to fulfill your request.


Ford Field Information from Lions Website:

Parking is $20 in Ford Field lots. - https://www.fordfield.com/assets/doc/Ford-Field-Controlle...

Ford Field is located at 2000 Brush St, just south of I-75 (Fisher Freeway) and directly across Brush St from Comerica Park.

Pre-purchase parking ($15-$40): https://www.parkwhiz.com/ford-field-parking/?utm_campaign...

ADA parking is available in the Ford Field Parking Deck. All parking is available on a first come, first serve basis.

Wheelchairs are available from the Guest Services locations inside of each entrance if guests need assistance.

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   Posted: 11/23/2022 7:35:52 PM 
Wouldn't miss it. Watching this team morph from where they were at the beginning of the season to this has been a fun ride. Go Cats!!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official MAC Championship Game Thread: Toledo
   Posted: 11/24/2022 5:09:54 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
What has me worried is that Toledo appears to playing rope-a-dope with us by not playing key players against BG and in the upcoming game against WMU. They may be more rested, even if we have more prep time, theoretically at least.


They aren’t playing certain players because they’re hurt. They aren’t just sitting them out. Finn wasn’t even cleared last game so he was ruled out and now Gleason broke his hand. Rest is a bye week. Rust is what you get when you miss too much time.


I hope that's right, but I heard an ESPN guy on the BG-UT game say that they were just holding the QB out because the BG game wouldn't have any bearing on getting to Detroit. That's a paraphrase, but I thought that was what he was saying. Now ESPN announcers don't always know what they are talking about, particularly when they do G5 games.


Finn was not held out, he was ruled out because he wasn’t cleared to play because of an ankle injury. He was in a walking boot on the sidelines from an ankle injury he suffered in the Ball State game. He was really laboring with his movement. He also missed the EMU game the week before because of a shoulder injury he suffered on the final play of the Buffalo game. He’s been really banged up since that Buffalo game and his play has taken a turn. He was tearing it up heading into the Buffalo game but got really roughed up and also had 4 pics. Since then he’s missed 2 of 4 games and hasn’t looked the same as he did prior to UB.


The backup, Tucker Gleason, broke his left hand and continued to play in the BG game. He ended up having surgery on it. Not sure if either of them will play tomorrow against Western Michigan. I'd guess not since the game has little meaning.
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   Posted: 11/24/2022 7:21:34 PM 
Look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXA8IU9Di9c
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