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Topic:  RE: Potential candidates

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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 8:08:28 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
ohio9704 wrote:
Matt Entz, HC North Dakota State University.


That's an infinitely better job than Ohio.


But he could double his salary and probably win in the worse FBS conference and move on.
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shabamon
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 9:20:31 AM 
If you want to recapture the Solich profile, Chryst is the candidate.

If Tettleton weren't an alum, would he even be a mention?
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Rbrat10
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 3:13:07 PM 
My 1st choice for a young guy waiting to get a chance is easily Jay Harbaugh. Arguably the best assistant coach at Michigan. One of their best recruiters. If OU doesn't get him soon, another MAC team will, and it won't be a good thing. I would not be surprised to see him take over for his dad when he hangs it up.

#OUOHYEAH

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GoCats105
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   Posted: 10/3/2022 3:47:11 PM 
The biggest question is going to be "how much money can we offer Coach (fill in the blank)"

Half the names mentioned so far we have no shot at getting simply because we won't pony up the money it takes to get them. So where does that leave us? It's gonna probably these types of guys:

-Longtime coach who is looking for a soft landing spot to wind down his career
-Young up-and-comer looking for his first head coaching job - this guy probably won't be at a Power 5 school unless it's a middle to lower tier program.
-FCS or lower division All Star who's looking to make the jump up to FBS

No OC or DC in their right mind would take the job at Ohio if they're going to cut their salary in half to do it. Unless they think that the title "head coach" means that much more.

Last Edited: 10/3/2022 5:19:15 PM by GoCats105
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 5:34:06 PM 
shabamon wrote:

If Tettleton weren't an alum, would he even be a mention?


We're not interviewing the assistant running backs coach of any other NFL teams.

Tettleton's not an option. Good dude, but way too early in his career to be considered. He's never even run an offense, let alone a whole program.
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 6:09:12 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
shabamon wrote:

If Tettleton weren't an alum, would he even be a mention?


We're not interviewing the assistant running backs coach of any other NFL teams.

Tettleton's not an option. Good dude, but way too early in his career to be considered. He's never even run an offense, let alone a whole program.

If you are going to pick a recent ex-Ohio player, how about TJ Carrie? And before someone says "but he's never coached at all", I'll answer that he spent a lot of time working with the players during 2012 when he was injured. I seriously doubt he would apply, or that Ohio would consider him if he did, but he always impressed me as someone who is going to succeed at whatever he does. I think Ohio could do a lot worse. You have the added advantage that he might stay awhile if he succeeds.

Last Edited: 10/3/2022 6:11:16 PM by L.C.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 6:11:36 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
shabamon wrote:

If Tettleton weren't an alum, would he even be a mention?


We're not interviewing the assistant running backs coach of any other NFL teams.

Tettleton's not an option. Good dude, but way too early in his career to be considered. He's never even run an offense, let alone a whole program.

If you are going to pick a recent ex-Ohio player, how about TJ Carrie? And before someone says "but he's never coached at all", I'll answer that he spent a lot of time working with the players during 2012 when he was injured. I seriously doubt he would apply, or that Ohio would consider him if he did, but he always impressed me as someone who is going to succeed at whatever he does. I think Ohio could do a lot worse.


Interesting and creative thought, L.C. I also know he's kept in contact with some Athens folks and had some local business dealings, so he'd be well-received by the Athens community.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 6:29:55 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
shabamon wrote:

If Tettleton weren't an alum, would he even be a mention?


We're not interviewing the assistant running backs coach of any other NFL teams.

Tettleton's not an option. Good dude, but way too early in his career to be considered. He's never even run an offense, let alone a whole program.

If you are going to pick a recent ex-Ohio player, how about TJ Carrie? And before someone says "but he's never coached at all", I'll answer that he spent a lot of time working with the players during 2012 when he was injured. I seriously doubt he would apply, or that Ohio would consider him if he did, but he always impressed me as someone who is going to succeed at whatever he does. I think Ohio could do a lot worse.


Interesting and creative thought, L.C. I also know he's kept in contact with some Athens folks and had some local business dealings, so he'd be well-received by the Athens community.


^^^ This ^^^
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Bobcats1212
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/3/2022 11:37:15 PM 
Andy Kotelnicki- Kansas Offensive coordinator
He’s been with Lance Leipold since he was at Wisconsin Whitewater. So he knows how to build a program in the Mac.

Last Edited: 10/4/2022 12:19:45 AM by Bobcats1212
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71 BOBCAT
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   Posted: 10/4/2022 7:04:17 AM 
Coach O...GO BOBCATS







GO BOBCATS
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ytownbobcat
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   Posted: 10/4/2022 3:10:39 PM 
Anyone have an idea of the costs associated with bringing in a new staff? I was told that the contractual "soft costs" (not salaries) for the Saul to Boals transition was close to one million dollars. I think it consisted of relocation cost of new staff, obligations to old staff for fees for forfeited leases, COBRA related healthcare costs , real estate costs, and other buyouts.

A few years back our only option to replace our football head coach was to promote from the existing staff. That saves lots of money since it usually only involves one person and their related costs.

Since we are now in a better place financially, we could absorb more expenses associated with changing the entire football staff. It seems like a significant financial commitment to fire and rehire a new staff.
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Potential candidates
   Posted: 10/4/2022 4:16:55 PM 
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Coach O...GO BOBCATS







GO BOBCATS


This is the second time someone has mentioned this and can we just squash it?

He's not a good guy and he's not that great of a coach. He lucked into one of the best roster's in NCAA history and was the perfect guy for that job at that time as a lifelong Louisiana native. He wouldn't fit here and frankly, I wouldn't want him here. It's well reported he harassed women in the LSU community multiple times and left LSU to clean up the mess he left behind with the culture he created.

Last Edited: 10/4/2022 4:17:15 PM by GoCats105
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Buckeye to Bobcat
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   Posted: 10/4/2022 5:37:48 PM 
ytownbobcat wrote:
Anyone have an idea of the costs associated with bringing in a new staff? I was told that the contractual "soft costs" (not salaries) for the Saul to Boals transition was close to one million dollars. I think it consisted of relocation cost of new staff, obligations to old staff for fees for forfeited leases, COBRA related healthcare costs , real estate costs, and other buyouts.

A few years back our only option to replace our football head coach was to promote from the existing staff. That saves lots of money since it usually only involves one person and their related costs.

Since we are now in a better place financially, we could absorb more expenses associated with changing the entire football staff. It seems like a significant financial commitment to fire and rehire a new staff.


Most assistants are on year-to-year or two year contracts. Generally, they are not obligated to buyouts and such but will be intriguing to watch come Dec. 31
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bobcatsquared
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   Posted: 10/4/2022 8:58:43 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Coach O...GO BOBCATS

GO BOBCATS


This is the second time someone has mentioned this and can we just squash it?


Yeah, squash it. Because the people making these decisions in the convo are basing these decisions from BA posters' suggestions.
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:03:19 AM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
ytownbobcat wrote:
Anyone have an idea of the costs associated with bringing in a new staff? I was told that the contractual "soft costs" (not salaries) for the Saul to Boals transition was close to one million dollars. I think it consisted of relocation cost of new staff, obligations to old staff for fees for forfeited leases, COBRA related healthcare costs , real estate costs, and other buyouts.

A few years back our only option to replace our football head coach was to promote from the existing staff. That saves lots of money since it usually only involves one person and their related costs.

Since we are now in a better place financially, we could absorb more expenses associated with changing the entire football staff. It seems like a significant financial commitment to fire and rehire a new staff.


Most assistants are on year-to-year or two year contracts. Generally, they are not obligated to buyouts and such but will be intriguing to watch come Dec. 31


You still have to pay the balance of a contract. Contracts run until June 30th. So you fire a staff in December, you will pay two staffs for 6 months. You are renting 24 cars for 6 months, paying cell phone stipends for 6 months. You are paying for two country club memberships, etc., The soft cost are real.
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:05:45 AM 
No one has mentioned Mike Mitchell.
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:26:27 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
No one has mentioned Mike Mitchell.



He certainly specializes in an area we desperately need help in! ;-)

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GoCats105
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:40:18 AM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Coach O...GO BOBCATS

GO BOBCATS


This is the second time someone has mentioned this and can we just squash it?


Yeah, squash it. Because the people making these decisions in the convo are basing these decisions from BA posters' suggestions.


Yes, because that's the point I was trying to make.
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   Posted: 10/5/2022 10:49:27 AM 
My post was sarcastic in nature.
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   Posted: 10/6/2022 3:34:48 PM 
Here's an idea: wait a few months to see a) how the expansion of the CFP to 12 teams and b) how the ACC, PAC 12 and Big 12 react to the B1G and SEC expansion plans in light of a) each hit big-time college football. Then if there is still a reasonable place in FCS for a historically bottom tier Group of 5 program to function, we can pick up the dregs somewhere. At this moment, I'm not seeing the wisdom of throwing significant money at an FBS, G5 football program for any reason and certainly not to upgrade the coaching mid-contract.

I hope I'm wrong.
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