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OUVan
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  Message Not Read  More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 3:10:46 PM 
USC and UCLA to the Big Ten.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34173688/s...

Doesn't exactly seem like a natural fit.
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 3:12:12 PM 
Natural fit went out the window a long time ago.
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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 3:26:25 PM 
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 3:51:55 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


This may be our best bet to prevent this idiocy from continuing.

There are plenty of great programs in the midwest to make a conference. This is dumb.


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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 4:26:12 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


This may be our best bet to prevent this idiocy from continuing.

There are plenty of great programs in the midwest to make a conference. This is dumb.


Did B1G even perform an environmental impact analysis before pursuing this expansion?

California politicians need to inquire about the CO2 emissions that will be generated when the Rutgers water polo team has to fly to Los Angeles for away games.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 4:35:06 PM 
Mike Tyson would summarize this in one word.


"All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano.

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spongeBOB CATpants
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 4:56:30 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


This may be our best bet to prevent this idiocy from continuing.

There are plenty of great programs in the midwest to make a conference. This is dumb.


Did B1G even perform an environmental impact analysis before pursuing this expansion?

California politicians need to inquire about the CO2 emissions that will be generated when the Rutgers water polo team has to fly to Los Angeles for away games.


I'm sure the baseball/softball teams will enjoy coast to coast flights every other weekend.
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mf279801
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 10:04:45 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


This may be our best bet to prevent this idiocy from continuing.

There are plenty of great programs in the midwest to make a conference. This is dumb.


Did B1G even perform an environmental impact analysis before pursuing this expansion?

California politicians need to inquire about the CO2 emissions that will be generated when the Rutgers water polo team has to fly to Los Angeles for away games.


I'm sure the baseball/softball teams will enjoy coast to coast flights every other weekend.


I've heard a few reports (on podcasts) that this is most likely Football/Basketball only
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 6/30/2022 11:50:35 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Conferences that are not geographically-based cause climate change.


This may be our best bet to prevent this idiocy from continuing.

There are plenty of great programs in the midwest to make a conference. This is dumb.


Did B1G even perform an environmental impact analysis before pursuing this expansion?

California politicians need to inquire about the CO2 emissions that will be generated when the Rutgers water polo team has to fly to Los Angeles for away games.


I'm sure the baseball/softball teams will enjoy coast to coast flights every other weekend.


I've heard a few reports (on podcasts) that this is most likely Football/Basketball only


Did anybody break the news to Grand Canyon and Dixie State of Utah that they won't be candidates to join the new/unimproved Pac 12? Can't Jerry Colangelo just buy the conference and make them include his hobby/toy, Grand Canyon?
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 6:46:50 AM 
mf279801 wrote:

I've heard a few reports (on podcasts) that this is most likely Football/Basketball only


According to the papers out here, the B1G is saying all sports will transfer over to the conference.



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100%Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 8:22:19 AM 
Dolla dolla bills, ya'll.

What are we going to end up with when the dust settles? The Great Northern Conference, The Great Southern Conference, and "everybody else?"
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Urban Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 8:42:01 AM 
Transportation will ONLY be environmentally- friendly--electronic/solar---vehicles.

Advancement of green energy is the main reason the Big Ten is making such a geographically brainless decision.


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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 8:46:31 AM 
Urban Bobcat wrote:
Transportation will ONLY be environmentally- friendly--electronic/solar---vehicles.



Don't forget the huge rubber bands for the planes.
Of course they'll all have to be "props" not jets.
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 9:14:49 AM 
Eventually there will two or three super conferences that are going to conspire to cut out the St. Peters and Loyola Chicagos of college sports landscape for rea$on$. I hope the college basketball selection committee puts a cap on how many at large bids can come from one conference. "Oh neat, you created a 20 team conference with the intent to ruin the sport for everyone. Wonderful, you get only five bids. Enjoy the NIT, douchebags."

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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 9:20:17 AM 
shabamon wrote:
Eventually there will two or three super conferences that are going to conspire to cut out the St. Peters and Loyola Chicagos of college sports landscape for rea$on$. I hope the college basketball selection committee puts a cap on how many at large bids can come from one conference. "Oh neat, you created a 20 team conference with the intent to ruin the sport for everyone. Wonderful, you get only five bids. Enjoy the NIT, douchebags."



I'd love to watch Jay Bilas' head explode if/when that happened.
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spongeBOB CATpants
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 10:40:54 AM 
Obviously money is the main driver here but I would be curious to understand the "ROI" when you factor in the new travel requirements.
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 12:55:32 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Eventually there will two or three super conferences that are going to conspire to cut out the St. Peters and Loyola Chicagos of college sports landscape for rea$on$. I hope the college basketball selection committee puts a cap on how many at large bids can come from one conference. "Oh neat, you created a 20 team conference with the intent to ruin the sport for everyone. Wonderful, you get only five bids. Enjoy the NIT, douchebags."



For what it's worth, I don't think the major conferences are naive enough to misunderstand the NCAA Tournament's appeal as an event. They'll make sure to preserve the underdog component -- it's a huge money maker, and they know it.

What they're optimizing for is football revenue and regular season basketball TV revenue. And it's a wise business choice. Live TV is a dying medium and ad dollars are being poured into sports. If you're the Big 10 and you can add the second largest media market into your negotiations, you should.
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 2:06:36 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
mf279801 wrote:

I've heard a few reports (on podcasts) that this is most likely Football/Basketball only


According to the papers out here, the B1G is saying all sports will transfer over to the conference.





Huh…well maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/1/2022 2:40:51 PM 
Eventually, the Big Ten type conferences will be for football/basketball only. Olympic sports will be regional based. I could see Ohio State and West Virginia and Maybe MSU and Michigan being in the same conference as us for baseball, softball, and volleyball.
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/5/2022 9:16:49 AM 
Hot take - They'll add Notre Dame & Stanford next.


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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/5/2022 9:47:43 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Hot take - They'll add Notre Dame & Stanford next.


I'm fine with B1G adding Notre Dame. At least that fits the traditional geography.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/5/2022 9:10:00 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Hot take - They'll add Notre Dame & Stanford next.


I'm fine with B1G adding Notre Dame. At least that fits the traditional geography.


I don't think UND is fine with it, nor I would guess are most of their 76 million subway alumni. Obviously, that's an exaggerated figure, but many Notre Dame fans truly believe that every American Roman Catholic is a fan at some level.


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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/7/2022 11:52:44 PM 
If Big Ten takes Virginia, UNC, Notre Dame, and Duke while SEC takes FSU, Georgia Tech, Miami-Fl and Clemson. That makes ACC left with BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Va Tech, NC State, Wake Forest and Louisville. ACC becomes a lot more northeast of a league. Do they restock south again with Memphis, USF, UAB, ECU, Tulane, Charlotte, Temple, UConn and UMass for 16. A major hit for AAC yet again. MAC might survive with all 12 yet again as what is left of AAC would be too far west and south. If ACC took Buffalo over UMass that would be the only concern for the MAC.
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/8/2022 9:01:12 PM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
If Big Ten takes Virginia, UNC, Notre Dame, and Duke while SEC takes FSU, Georgia Tech, Miami-Fl and Clemson. That makes ACC left with BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Va Tech, NC State, Wake Forest and Louisville. ACC becomes a lot more northeast of a league. Do they restock south again with Memphis, USF, UAB, ECU, Tulane, Charlotte, Temple, UConn and UMass for 16. A major hit for AAC yet again. MAC might survive with all 12 yet again as what is left of AAC would be too far west and south. If ACC took Buffalo over UMass that would be the only concern for the MAC.


Would the SEC take Georgia Tech? They've already got a nerd school (one that actually tries at sports, unlike the Yellow Jackets), and they already dominate Atlanta. (Plus, one of the leading SEC programs hates them with a passion)
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  Message Not Read  RE: More Conference Realignment
   Posted: 7/9/2022 10:43:02 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Hot take - They'll add Notre Dame & Stanford next.


I'm fine with B1G adding Notre Dame. At least that fits the traditional geography.


I don't think UND is fine with it, nor I would guess are most of their 76 million subway alumni. Obviously, that's an exaggerated figure, but many Notre Dame fans truly believe that every American Roman Catholic is a fan at some level.


I think that is more last century. UND no longer holds a magical allure with todays high school athletes. perhaps with select catholic school athletes but not with others. and their NBC games are no longer unique as the consolidation. continues and everyone gets on TV every week.
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