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Topic:  NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/7/2022 10:51:03 AM 
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/8/2022 11:18:43 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


I knew a couple people that were in one of these commercials back in 2013 or 2014.

I want to say whoever produces the content asked for volunteers, which are not hard to find for some TV time.
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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/8/2022 12:26:36 PM 
Can schools pay for NILs? Right now, a college couldn't pay an athlete for to an NIL contract, right? It's only private businesses I believe.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/8/2022 3:00:02 PM 
Kevin Finnegan wrote:
Can schools pay for NILs? Right now, a college couldn't pay an athlete for to an NIL contract, right? It's only private businesses I believe.


No, however, schools can pay students for their role in promotional and advertising programs.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 8:17:16 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


How about NIL for a member of the 110?

Have there been any cheerleaders that have received NIL deals? That seems inevitable...


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 9:44:39 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


How about NIL for a member of the 110?

Have there been any cheerleaders that have received NIL deals? That seems inevitable...


How about those of us in the stands who are in the background in promotional campaign ads or other incidental exposures; especially if we are wearing Ohio gear? We want ours too!
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 10:56:33 AM 
CatsUp wrote:

How about those of us in the stands who are in the background in promotional campaign ads or other incidental exposures; especially if we are wearing Ohio gear? We want ours too!


Good luck. :-)

My wife and I have been filmed for Cedar Point and Great Adventure commercials.

Also been filmed for a couple of episodes of Insane Coaster Wars.

Not only didn't we not get paid anything, at CP and GA, if you didn't have a
ticket or Season Pass you had to leave ,after the filming.
Didn't even get breakfast or lunch.

Insane Coaster Wars took most of the day.
At least we got snacks.

Whenever we there for a filming there were signs all over the place saying that
"by riding _______ you agree to have yourself filmed . . .".

Same thing, we were at the Garden when they filmed Springsteen's "Live in NY" concerts.

Signs at every entrance saying that "by entering you agree to allow yourself
to be filmed ... ".



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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 11:13:22 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


How about NIL for a member of the 110?

Have there been any cheerleaders that have received NIL deals? That seems inevitable...


Band members have never been prohibited from an NIL deal.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 11:13:59 AM 
CatsUp wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


How about NIL for a member of the 110?

Have there been any cheerleaders that have received NIL deals? That seems inevitable...


How about those of us in the stands who are in the background in promotional campaign ads or other incidental exposures; especially if we are wearing Ohio gear? We want ours too!


Sorry, you waive that right when you purchase the ticket.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/10/2022 12:43:59 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Now that student athletes can get paid for use of their NIL, I was wondering about those non-athlete students who appear in the ads that schools run to boost enrollment applications. Are those students paid for use of their NIL, and if not, shouldn't they be? After all, they're potentially helping to bring in millions of dollars for their school. They should get something for it.


How about NIL for a member of the 110?

Have there been any cheerleaders that have received NIL deals? That seems inevitable...


The NCAA never legislated away the ability of a band member to make money. They don't need an NIL deal, they just need to, you know, become attractive to a business as a spokesperson.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/11/2022 10:47:43 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
. . .Signs at every entrance saying that "by entering you agree to allow yourself to be filmed ... ".


I have a friend who is a lawyer. He says that those signs have the same legal weight as those at a parking lot that say "We are not responsible for any damage to your car or it's contents while parked here." The purpose of these signs, he says, is to discourage people from suing for a loss and make them think they don't have a case. However, he says that that's not true and that the parking lot does have some liability that could be determined in a lawsuit. So, in summary, these types of disclaimers are not the last word in determining liability. You may, indeed, have a case that your likeness was used for commercial gain without your consent. You would have no case, however, if it was simply used in a news story on a local TV station. It's the commercial aspect that gives you a possible avenue for a successful lawsuit.


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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL for non-athelete students in schools' ads?
   Posted: 2/11/2022 11:30:47 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
. . .Signs at every entrance saying that "by entering you agree to allow yourself to be filmed ... ".


I have a friend who is a lawyer. He says that those signs have the same legal weight as those at a parking lot that say "We are not responsible for any damage to your car or it's contents while parked here." The purpose of these signs, he says, is to discourage people from suing for a loss and make them think they don't have a case. However, he says that that's not true and that the parking lot does have some liability that could be determined in a lawsuit. So, in summary, these types of disclaimers are not the last word in determining liability. You may, indeed, have a case that your likeness was used for commercial gain without your consent. You would have no case, however, if it was simply used in a news story on a local TV station. It's the commercial aspect that gives you a possible avenue for a successful lawsuit.


Agree 100% with your friend.

Still remember the old "watch your hat and coat" signs.

Then again, usually at coaster events, and especially at concerts, people go out of their way to get on camera.
Always hoping to see themselves on T.V. or in a video.

Whenever we do a shoot for a commercial or for Insane Coaster Wars we had
to sign an extensive formal waiver.



Last Edited: 2/11/2022 11:36:08 AM by rpbobcat

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