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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/22/2018 10:20:18 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
"On The Plains" is how long time residents of the area refer to that area.


As well as going down to Richland Avenue, is "going down on The Avenue."


"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/22/2018 10:49:15 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
"On The Plains" is how long time residents of the area refer to that area.


As well as going down to Richland Avenue, is "going down on The Avenue."



Hadn't heard that one but I know lots of local folks who have "chimlies" and are "flustrated."
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/22/2018 3:11:20 PM 
LOL! I love it. All I know is that my HS Diploma from 1979 says "Athens High School" -- not "On the Plains," "in the Plains," or "the plains High School." Whether true or an urban legend (aka: suburban or in the boonies legend), it is my understanding that the Plains was supposed to be the original location of Ohio University, but that the original settlers became lost.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/22/2018 11:37:58 PM 
The myth of Athens or Ohio University being located in The Plains is an old one that has no basis in truth. Athens became Athens because, 1. It had the buffalo road that went along the Hocking via East State Street then West State and then once across the river up Margarets Creek before going to Chillicothe. Athens first name was Middletown, the town half way between Ohio's first capitals Marietta and Chillicothe.
2. The farmers shipped their grain each spring in very wide shallow draft boats to the Ohio. The falls at White's Mill were the farest you could go upriver and the "bluffs" overlooked the valley. The bluffs are home to Cutler Hall and the river used to flow where the new Baker Center is now.
There are a few other sources I could cite but too late to dig out the history books. Ms. Marge Stone, author of a book on Athens History pointed out the above to me years ago.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/22/2018 11:53:46 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
"On The Plains" is how long time residents of the area refer to that area.


As well as going down to Richland Avenue, is "going down on The Avenue."



Hadn't heard that one but I know lots of local folks who have "chimlies" and are "flustrated."


That term, "on The Avenue" is primarily used by those who once lived in Mechanicsburg, which was at one time the community south of the old river and the old bridge over the same, which grew up as community after the establishment of the State Insane Asylum in Athens in the late 1860s.


"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 5/23/2018 12:01:59 AM 
yamaha45701 wrote:
The myth of Athens or Ohio University being located in The Plains is an old one that has no basis in truth. Athens became Athens because, 1. It had the buffalo road that went along the Hocking via East State Street then West State and then once across the river up Margarets Creek before going to Chillicothe. Athens first name was Middletown, the town half way between Ohio's first capitals Marietta and Chillicothe.
2. The farmers shipped their grain each spring in very wide shallow draft boats to the Ohio. The falls at White's Mill were the farest you could go upriver and the "bluffs" overlooked the valley. The bluffs are home to Cutler Hall and the river used to flow where the new Baker Center is now.
. . .


I agree with virtually everything you say here, with one exception. I'm not sure that the old rumor that the surveyors got drunk and placed the university in the wrong locations is false. I do know that years ago when I was reading some microfilm of local papers back in the 1835-45 period that I found a reference to that story and it was repeated as known fact. That, of course, doesn't mean it's necessarily true, but it does mean that the story is a very old (as you say), and that it's so old that it was being repeated only one generation after it supposedly occurred. To my knowledge there are no extant documents to prove or disprove it. No one appears to have the original orders that the surveyors were given. The only documents that I'm aware of that era that are still extant indicate that the university was to be in the center of the Ohio Company of Associates "purchase" from the Confederation Congress, and that the rental lands were to be in Athens and Alexander Townships. The Plains is in Athens Township. So, I still have an open mind on the question of whether or not the university was originally suppose to be in The Plains.

Last Edited: 5/23/2018 12:03:54 AM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 8/27/2018 6:43:45 PM 
Burrow starting for LSU. I think it’s safe to say he made the right decision.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24494846/...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 8/27/2018 7:14:50 PM 
BuddyLee wrote:
Burrow starting for LSU. I think it’s safe to say he made the right decision.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24494846/...


Yay, the Burrow stream is alive again on Bobcatattack.com, thus proving that "Hocking River Strong; Hocking River Proud" not only still flows proudly past Athens High School in the Plains, but Ohio University too. Good Luck, young man! You certainly picked a pressure packed way to start your career at LSU.
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   Posted: 1/30/2022 7:14:15 PM 
GO JOE! Absolutely amazing, now it's time for a ring. What an Athens story.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 1/30/2022 11:52:08 PM 
[MUSIC: "When you wish upon a star"]

Announcer: "Hey, Joe Burrow! You just won Super Bowl 56! What are you going to do next?"

JB: "I'm going to raise money to feed the poor in Southeast Ohio."


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 1/31/2022 10:18:19 AM 
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/2/2022 3:16:50 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?


I can’t answer your “(Athens) Townie question”, to which I believe you are referring to Fred Swearingen, but it made me wonder about southeastern Ohio historical representation overall in the Super Bowl. Just for discussion sake, for instance, those either born in, or raised in, counties that includes areas south of I70 and east of 23. I know of several…Ron McDole, born in Chester (Meigs County) and appearing in SB VII with Washington; Garin Veris, Chillicothe High School, appearing in SB XX with Patriots; Mike Bartrum, (Rutland area) Meigs High School, appearing in both SB XXXI with Patriots and SB XXXIX with the Eagles. Are there others?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/3/2022 9:12:47 AM 
CatsUp wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?


I can’t answer your “(Athens) Townie question”, to which I believe you are referring to Fred Swearingen, but it made me wonder about southeastern Ohio historical representation overall in the Super Bowl. Just for discussion sake, for instance, those either born in, or raised in, counties that includes areas south of I70 and east of 23. I know of several…Ron McDole, born in Chester (Meigs County) and appearing in SB VII with Washington; Garin Veris, Chillicothe High School, appearing in SB XX with Patriots; Mike Bartrum, (Rutland area) Meigs High School, appearing in both SB XXXI with Patriots and SB XXXIX with the Eagles. Are there others?


Jim Cordle, Lancaster, OSU, NY Giants, SB XLVI
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   Posted: 2/3/2022 9:28:30 AM 
Although his team lost in the NFCC game, Colton McKivitz from Union Local High School in Belmont County was and is an offensive lineman for the San Francisco 49er's.

Last Edited: 2/3/2022 9:29:49 AM by ou79

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   Posted: 2/3/2022 10:17:05 PM 
BBHacker wrote:
CatsUp wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?


I can’t answer your “(Athens) Townie question”, to which I believe you are referring to Fred Swearingen, but it made me wonder about southeastern Ohio historical representation overall in the Super Bowl. Just for discussion sake, for instance, those either born in, or raised in, counties that includes areas south of I70 and east of 23. I know of several…Ron McDole, born in Chester (Meigs County) and appearing in SB VII with Washington; Garin Veris, Chillicothe High School, appearing in SB XX with Patriots; Mike Bartrum, (Rutland area) Meigs High School, appearing in both SB XXXI with Patriots and SB XXXIX with the Eagles. Are there others?


Jim Cordle, Lancaster, OSU, NY Giants, SB XLVI


Lancaster is NOT in the SE part of the state. The only two other SE Ohio people who played any real time would be Coy Bacon and Ben Hartsock. Hartsock played in 3 AFC Title games but never made the Super Bowl.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/4/2022 8:43:35 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
BBHacker wrote:
CatsUp wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?


I can’t answer your “(Athens) Townie question”, to which I believe you are referring to Fred Swearingen, but it made me wonder about southeastern Ohio historical representation overall in the Super Bowl. Just for discussion sake, for instance, those either born in, or raised in, counties that includes areas south of I70 and east of 23. I know of several…Ron McDole, born in Chester (Meigs County) and appearing in SB VII with Washington; Garin Veris, Chillicothe High School, appearing in SB XX with Patriots; Mike Bartrum, (Rutland area) Meigs High School, appearing in both SB XXXI with Patriots and SB XXXIX with the Eagles. Are there others?


Jim Cordle, Lancaster, OSU, NY Giants, SB XLVI


Lancaster is NOT in the SE part of the state. The only two other SE Ohio people who played any real time would be Coy Bacon and Ben Hartsock. Hartsock played in 3 AFC Title games but never made the Super Bowl.


The earlier post says south of I70 and east of 23. The last time l was in Lancaster it met both parameters.

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   Posted: 2/5/2022 10:40:49 PM 
BBHacker wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
BBHacker wrote:
CatsUp wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
Sure helped his team with his big runs!

Also helped playing an opponent which p..ssed its pants. KC lost the game at the end of the first half and nearly didn't make it to OT with very poor decisions.

The first Townie in the Super Bowl since an Athens NFL Ref called the game?


I can’t answer your “(Athens) Townie question”, to which I believe you are referring to Fred Swearingen, but it made me wonder about southeastern Ohio historical representation overall in the Super Bowl. Just for discussion sake, for instance, those either born in, or raised in, counties that includes areas south of I70 and east of 23. I know of several…Ron McDole, born in Chester (Meigs County) and appearing in SB VII with Washington; Garin Veris, Chillicothe High School, appearing in SB XX with Patriots; Mike Bartrum, (Rutland area) Meigs High School, appearing in both SB XXXI with Patriots and SB XXXIX with the Eagles. Are there others?


Jim Cordle, Lancaster, OSU, NY Giants, SB XLVI


Lancaster is NOT in the SE part of the state. The only two other SE Ohio people who played any real time would be Coy Bacon and Ben Hartsock. Hartsock played in 3 AFC Title games but never made the Super Bowl.


The earlier post says south of I70 and east of 23. The last time l was in Lancaster it met both parameters.



Well hell then, LeVon Bell fits into the conversation then. Seeing as how Groveport is east of 23 and South of 70.
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   Posted: 2/6/2022 8:33:29 AM 
Good find BTC! We both missed Tom Crabtree, Bloom Carroll, Green Bay, SB XLV.
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   Posted: 2/8/2022 1:01:34 PM 
Whether Lancaster likes it or not, they are Southeast Ohio. There’s a gap in urban sprawl between Lancaster and Columbus metro. Same rule applies to Circleville.
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   Posted: 2/8/2022 1:33:33 PM 
Donuts wrote:
Whether Lancaster likes it or not, they are Southeast Ohio. There’s a gap in urban sprawl between Lancaster and Columbus metro. Same rule applies to Circleville.


Actually, Lancaster is officially designated by the state of Ohio as part of the South Central region of Ohio. Southeast Ohio is actually part of the Appalachian region of Ohio, and neither Lancaster nor Circleville are Southeast.
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   Posted: 2/8/2022 9:28:58 PM 
Given the shape of the state, must cut it up four ways with Columbus metro as the central. This isn’t official, because, well, most people aren’t checking the rule books for how the state divides up.
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   Posted: 2/8/2022 10:02:45 PM 
Donuts wrote:
This isn’t official, because, well, most people aren’t checking the rule books for how the state divides up.


Betcha BTC is checking the rule books.
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   Posted: 2/8/2022 11:17:34 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Donuts wrote:
This isn’t official, because, well, most people aren’t checking the rule books for how the state divides up.


Betcha BTC is checking the rule books.


Don’t need to check a rule book. Because that’s actually part of my job. But, hatred is a form of envy, which I take as a compliment. And yeah, when it comes to my profession and side hustles, I know that rule book.

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   Posted: 2/9/2022 6:41:48 AM 
Gotta give you credit, BTC. At least you didn't claim to have written the rule books.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Burrow
   Posted: 2/9/2022 10:29:42 AM 
Anybody else notice that @OhioUniversity has now updated their profile picture to a Bengals themed Forever Ohio graphic?

The connection to the university is through his father, Joe isn't exactly "Forever Ohio". He is more like "Never Ohio and a little bit of OSU"

Curious to hear thoughts on this. We already get confused for OSU in other parts of the country.
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