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Just kind of sucks overall it happens once or twice within a season, but is what it is. Chase OU Engineering Technology and Management '24 Future Honda of America Engineer Bringing the noise! Muck Fiami Kant read, Kant write Bowling Green Normie School Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 12:48:41 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: giacomo wrote: GoCats105 wrote: A wise man once said "winning cures all ills." Put a good team on the floor and people will come watch it. This isn't new. That’s really not true in our case. We have a solid team coached by a former player who was on a great team back in the day. We only get 5k against Akron, coached by a former coach. Lots of drama and a very good team. The students and people of Athens county don’t really give a you know what. With the nature of our fan base, Friday night games aren't optimal. This woukd have been 6500-7000 on Saturday. Agreed Jeff. Athens is small. There’s often lot of k-12 stuff going on on Friday nights and that impacts attendance. That was true this Friday. I know of 10 empty seats due to middle/high school events Friday. All would have been filled Saturday. And you are gonna lose OU students on Friday night as well. Anyway. Boals had the team looking good. Way fun night. And, don't forget the 5,000 members of Larry Hunter's extended family who have never came back after he was fired! Don't have to be an ass all the time. Please tell us more about that new 45,000-seat football stadium! That joke don't play off a dead person, who's family was rightfully hurt that their relative who was an alum, won 19 games, had everyone returning and got fired. I'm sure if your son got canned from his job, you'd run right out and support his employer. I'm sorry if my sarcastic humor offends you. That might be a first! Though I engaged in a bit of hyperbole for emphasis, the basic point I was making is accurate. I've met and I'm sure you have folks who have not graced the inside of the Convo since Larry was fired. The hurt is real and has impacted our attendance. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,623 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 12:50:29 PM  I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 1:10:38 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: giacomo wrote: GoCats105 wrote: A wise man once said "winning cures all ills." Put a good team on the floor and people will come watch it. This isn't new. That’s really not true in our case. We have a solid team coached by a former player who was on a great team back in the day. We only get 5k against Akron, coached by a former coach. Lots of drama and a very good team. The students and people of Athens county don’t really give a you know what. With the nature of our fan base, Friday night games aren't optimal. This woukd have been 6500-7000 on Saturday. Agreed Jeff. Athens is small. There’s often lot of k-12 stuff going on on Friday nights and that impacts attendance. That was true this Friday. I know of 10 empty seats due to middle/high school events Friday. All would have been filled Saturday. And you are gonna lose OU students on Friday night as well. Anyway. Boals had the team looking good. Way fun night. And, don't forget the 5,000 members of Larry Hunter's extended family who have never came back after he was fired! Don't have to be an ass all the time. Please tell us more about that new 45,000-seat football stadium! That joke don't play off a dead person, who's family was rightfully hurt that their relative who was an alum, won 19 games, had everyone returning and got fired. I'm sure if your son got canned from his job, you'd run right out and support his employer. I'm sorry if my sarcastic humor offends you. That might be a first! Though I engaged in a bit of hyperbole for emphasis, the basic point I was making is accurate. I've met and I'm sure you have folks who have not graced the inside of the Convo since Larry was fired. The hurt is real and has impacted our attendance. sarcasm at the expense of dead alumni and their family. OCF, keeping sarcasm classy since 2004. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 1:14:51 PM  giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. Not on Friday and Tuesday nights in Athens County and all of SE Ohio. Fans are forced between the high school and college games, and many of those games involve family,. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,401 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 2:46:18 PM  giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... RS Bobcat Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/13/2023 5:57:44 PM  RSBobcat wrote: giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... In Athens and the immediate surrounding counties there are 14 high schools, high school players and their families are definitely part of the crowd that would come to games not in conflict, as would several of the fans of those schools. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,623 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/14/2023 10:49:49 AM  My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 11:02:53 AM  RSBobcat wrote: giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... As a person who drives 90 miles for games, I can assure you that the Friday games make it harder. And that the high school sports makes it harder to get people to come along for the ride. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 11:52:08 AM  giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Movie attendance is crashing, there is NO shopping in Athens, and the concert world changed and passed OHIO University right on by. We do draw well for resturants though. Back to Top Cellis033 General User Member Since: 11/11/2021 Location: Powell, OH Post Count: 1,565 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 12:08:46 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Movie attendance is crashing, there is NO shopping in Athens, and the concert world changed and passed OHIO University right on by. We do draw well for resturants though. Numbers Fest used to draw quite a bit in the early 00's and even the Convo drew artists like Led Zep back in the day - but with the decline and ultimate cancellation of NF and Convo schedule being pretty backed up at times - kind of screws us as a concert location for mid / large bands / artists Chase OU Engineering Technology and Management '24 Future Honda of America Engineer Bringing the noise! Muck Fiami Kant read, Kant write Bowling Green Normie School Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 3:51:21 PM  If you look at attendance trends, NCAA Division I has steadily declined for decades now. You can parse the numbers however you want, but 2022 average was 4,202. 2012 average was 4,994. 2002 average was 5,053. 1993 average was 5,382. Some of that is from more DI teams, but a lot of it is just a downward trend across the board. https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/11/27/ncaa-men-s-basketb... Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 5:10:13 PM  Cellis033 wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Movie attendance is crashing, there is NO shopping in Athens, and the concert world changed and passed OHIO University right on by. We do draw well for resturants though. Numbers Fest used to draw quite a bit in the early 00's and even the Convo drew artists like Led Zep back in the day - but with the decline and ultimate cancellation of NF and Convo schedule being pretty backed up at times - kind of screws us as a concert location for mid / large bands / artists numbers fest was a student party for the most part, not a destination of the locals from surronding counties. Look up the folks who used to play the Convo. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/15/2023 8:29:31 PM  giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Your premise is that Athens County is the totality of where the fans are from. Other towns are out there within 45 minutes and Columbus is a huge market to draw potential fans from. If you are thinking Athens County as a limitation for sponsorships and donations I can see that point but there is enough population around to fill up a major D1 arena. Unlike football where OU is asking for fans to show up at a high level FCS stadium, a 13,000 seat arena is like having 65,000 seats in football. The expectation for many is the NFL 60,000+ seat experience is what football is about. Thats something the town doesn't have the infrastructure to support and competing against programs in the region that are 60,000+. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/16/2023 1:40:59 PM  Campus Flow wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Your premise is that Athens County is the totality of where the fans are from. Other towns are out there within 45 minutes and Columbus is a huge market to draw potential fans from. If you are thinking Athens County as a limitation for sponsorships and donations I can see that point but there is enough population around to fill up a major D1 arena. Unlike football where OU is asking for fans to show up at a high level FCS stadium, a 13,000 seat arena is like having 65,000 seats in football. The expectation for many is the NFL 60,000+ seat experience is what football is about. Thats something the town doesn't have the infrastructure to support and competing against programs in the region that are 60,000+. You really should probably spend some time in these surrounding counties. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/18/2023 4:27:34 PM  RSBobcat wrote: giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... BillyTheCat wrote: Campus Flow wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Your premise is that Athens County is the totality of where the fans are from. Other towns are out there within 45 minutes and Columbus is a huge market to draw potential fans from. If you are thinking Athens County as a limitation for sponsorships and donations I can see that point but there is enough population around to fill up a major D1 arena. Unlike football where OU is asking for fans to show up at a high level FCS stadium, a 13,000 seat arena is like having 65,000 seats in football. The expectation for many is the NFL 60,000+ seat experience is what football is about. Thats something the town doesn't have the infrastructure to support and competing against programs in the region that are 60,000+. You really should probably spend some time in these surrounding counties. The original post is accurate to the point that there is still an immense amount of pride in the local communities. It is NOT because there is "nothing to do" as much as it is that basketball and friday night lights are still "The thing to do". Barr Reeve and other southern IN schools regualrly fill the gyms while perennial champions in leagues around Indy, Ft Wayne and Gary are 5K plus student bodies with NBA bound talent that has hundreds of game day tickets and choice of great seats all over the gym as no one goes to the games. Same as I saw when I lived in Chicago. No one really has much pride or support in schools around the metro areas...more in the burbs than in the city but still not hard to get a ticket. Downstate in IL OH or IN those tix are hard to come by and old rivalries are still bringing conflict and drama. Ball st, IN State, even IU on a friday night see attendance down a bit going against HS ball. Last Edited: 2/18/2023 4:29:07 PM by bornacatfan never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/18/2023 5:40:59 PM  bornacatfan wrote: RSBobcat wrote: giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... BillyTheCat wrote: Campus Flow wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Your premise is that Athens County is the totality of where the fans are from. Other towns are out there within 45 minutes and Columbus is a huge market to draw potential fans from. If you are thinking Athens County as a limitation for sponsorships and donations I can see that point but there is enough population around to fill up a major D1 arena. Unlike football where OU is asking for fans to show up at a high level FCS stadium, a 13,000 seat arena is like having 65,000 seats in football. The expectation for many is the NFL 60,000+ seat experience is what football is about. Thats something the town doesn't have the infrastructure to support and competing against programs in the region that are 60,000+. You really should probably spend some time in these surrounding counties. The original post is accurate to the point that there is still an immense amount of pride in the local communities. It is NOT because there is "nothing to do" as much as it is that basketball and friday night lights are still "The thing to do". Barr Reeve and other southern IN schools regualrly fill the gyms while perennial champions in leagues around Indy, Ft Wayne and Gary are 5K plus student bodies with NBA bound talent that has hundreds of game day tickets and choice of great seats all over the gym as no one goes to the games. Same as I saw when I lived in Chicago. No one really has much pride or support in schools around the metro areas...more in the burbs than in the city but still not hard to get a ticket. Downstate in IL OH or IN those tix are hard to come by and old rivalries are still bringing conflict and drama. Ball st, IN State, even IU on a friday night see attendance down a bit going against HS ball. The Tues/Fri thing for TV is hurting for sure. The program would have better time windows if it was a regular tournament type program. There is enough people in the region and students on campus to put 13,000 in The Convo on weekend games if the team was good an average 10,000 (tickets sold) overall. That is plenty enough fans to be taken seriously in D1. Last Edited: 2/18/2023 5:44:46 PM by Campus Flow Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: OU still leads the MAC in attendance in 22-23    Posted: 2/18/2023 11:15:06 PM  bornacatfan wrote: RSBobcat wrote: giacomo wrote: I've read about some of the little towns in Indiana that have 6-10k gyms and pack them in, because it's really the only thing in town to do. Maybe I'm incorrect on this, but I see Athens county like that, the only game in town would be Bobcat football and basketball, thus we should always draw better crowds. OHIO draws attendance from several counties plus travelling alums/supporters from even further away. Therefore several dozen HS's - and therefore certainly not the only game in "town"..... BillyTheCat wrote: Campus Flow wrote: giacomo wrote: My thinking is that the university and Athens would be a magnet for the surrounding area in all things: sports, concerts, theater, movies, shopping and restaurants. Unless Chauncey and Coolville have become hot spots. So, if we don't draw well the level of interest must not be that great. I certainly see the HS sports conflict sometimes. Your premise is that Athens County is the totality of where the fans are from. Other towns are out there within 45 minutes and Columbus is a huge market to draw potential fans from. If you are thinking Athens County as a limitation for sponsorships and donations I can see that point but there is enough population around to fill up a major D1 arena. Unlike football where OU is asking for fans to show up at a high level FCS stadium, a 13,000 seat arena is like having 65,000 seats in football. The expectation for many is the NFL 60,000+ seat experience is what football is about. Thats something the town doesn't have the infrastructure to support and competing against programs in the region that are 60,000+. You really should probably spend some time in these surrounding counties. The original post is accurate to the point that there is still an immense amount of pride in the local communities. It is NOT because there is "nothing to do" as much as it is that basketball and friday night lights are still "The thing to do". Barr Reeve and other southern IN schools regualrly fill the gyms while perennial champions in leagues around Indy, Ft Wayne and Gary are 5K plus student bodies with NBA bound talent that has hundreds of game day tickets and choice of great seats all over the gym as no one goes to the games. Same as I saw when I lived in Chicago. No one really has much pride or support in schools around the metro areas...more in the burbs than in the city but still not hard to get a ticket. Downstate in IL OH or IN those tix are hard to come by and old rivalries are still bringing conflict and drama. Ball st, IN State, even IU on a friday night see attendance down a bit going against HS ball. These are very true observations. And, I had a friend tell me last week that he still goes to as many OHIO games as he can, but that the switch to Tuesday from Wednesday for MAC games has been a problem for him. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. 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