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Back to Top Bobcat110 General User Member Since: 3/5/2005 Location: Mount Gilead, OH Post Count: 698 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/3/2022 6:02:23 AM  Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? The thing that I’m curious about is how this impacts the lower tier bowls (MAC)? The first round playoff games will evidently be played during the weekend before Xmas (Dec 16-22), which is when most of the MAC bowls were programmed. The MAC bowls would lose purpose now as kind of filler games. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,156 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/3/2022 8:01:02 AM  Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? Yep, another 450 million. It’s for sure just not about the ribbons Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,341 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/3/2022 2:56:54 PM  Bobcat110 wrote: Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? The MAC bowls would lose purpose now as kind of filler games. Thanks for the chuckle. I don’t think anyone outside of the MAC (or SBC, etc) thinks of those as anything but filler now. May as well make it official. Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,904 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/3/2022 4:43:07 PM  I'm sure the Asparagus Bowl presented by Larry's Mower Repair is at the forefront of these CFP discussions. Welcome to reality. I don't like it any more than any of you but the reality is the MAC is playing for a chance at irrelevant filler already. But hey, we're a football conference because we have prime time Tuesday night games. Back to Top BobcatLackey2017 General User Member Since: 9/17/2021 Post Count: 50 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/4/2022 1:39:32 AM  Bobcat110 wrote: Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? The thing that I’m curious about is how this impacts the lower tier bowls (MAC)? The first round playoff games will evidently be played during the weekend before Xmas (Dec 16-22), which is when most of the MAC bowls were programmed. The MAC bowls would lose purpose now as kind of filler games. They are literally all filler games. Like I’m legitimately confused by this take. Is the Dollar General Bowl held in high esteem? Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,695 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/4/2022 6:23:38 PM  I'd like to see other tourneys pop up for fun all at the same place. Maybe 8 team tourneys over the course of 8 days? Is it really that unreasonable to play football games Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday? Bringing multiple fan bases into the fold for the event could help make these destination events for viable. I know it's way outside the box but I'd totally make a vacation out of something like this. I've just never been able to get excited for a bowl game. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,904 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/4/2022 10:58:32 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Is it really that unreasonable to play football games Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday? Yes. It takes a full week to fully recover. The NFL already complains bigly about making guys play Sunday/Thursday. You see more injuries in short weeks. If you tried this, while it would be awesome for fans, it would absolutely suck for the players. Player safety would dictate that you couldn't. You already see guys opting out of bowl games. You'd have half the team opt out of this I imagine. Back to Top Bobcat Jerry General User Member Since: 5/3/2017 Post Count: 215 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/5/2022 7:21:34 AM  Bar Stool TV network ? Where do I get a bar stool for my TV ? Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,695 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/8/2022 11:13:28 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Is it really that unreasonable to play football games Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday? Yes. It takes a full week to fully recover. The NFL already complains bigly about making guys play Sunday/Thursday. You see more injuries in short weeks. If you tried this, while it would be awesome for fans, it would absolutely suck for the players. Player safety would dictate that you couldn't. You already see guys opting out of bowl games. You'd have half the team opt out of this I imagine. Just seems soft to me. But I come from a baseball play games constantly perspective. I realize football is a physical game. But it'd be only 2 of the 8 teams playing the 3 games and it would be to end their season. They practice throughout the week and are constantly active. I know the scrutiny and whining would be there no question, I just think it's overstated. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/8/2022 9:19:49 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: GraffZ06 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Is it really that unreasonable to play football games Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday? Yes. It takes a full week to fully recover. The NFL already complains bigly about making guys play Sunday/Thursday. You see more injuries in short weeks. If you tried this, while it would be awesome for fans, it would absolutely suck for the players. Player safety would dictate that you couldn't. You already see guys opting out of bowl games. You'd have half the team opt out of this I imagine. Just seems soft to me. But I come from a baseball play games constantly perspective. I realize football is a physical game. But it'd be only 2 of the 8 teams playing the 3 games and it would be to end their season. They practice throughout the week and are constantly active. I know the scrutiny and whining would be there no question, I just think it's overstated. Let's have a playoff where everyone makes it. Make it a true national championship tournament. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,695 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 8:51:38 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Let's have a playoff where everyone makes it. Make it a true national championship tournament. Great irrelevant sarcastic insight BTC. Appreciated as always. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 9:44:20 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Let's have a playoff where everyone makes it. Make it a true national championship tournament. Great irrelevant sarcastic insight BTC. Appreciated as always. Nah, that is not sarcasm, its the only way there will ever be a true national championship. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 9:49:31 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Let's have a playoff where everyone makes it. Make it a true national championship tournament. Great irrelevant sarcastic insight BTC. Appreciated as always. Nah, that is not sarcasm, its the only way there will ever be a true national championship. If they play one game a week, they might crown the national champion before the next season starts. My need to go to "flag football " and play a couple of games a week. Then they could set it up like March Madness. :-) Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 9:55:00 AM  rpbobcat wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Let's have a playoff where everyone makes it. Make it a true national championship tournament. Great irrelevant sarcastic insight BTC. Appreciated as always. Nah, that is not sarcasm, its the only way there will ever be a true national championship. If they play one game a week, they might crown the national champion before the next season starts. My need to go to "flag football " and play a couple of games a week. Then they could set it up like March Madness. :-) If anything, it should be larger because the system we currently have does NOT really give us a true representation - you have to win a popularity contest to get in. It's rigged from the get go. Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 210 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 10:03:23 AM  Bobcat110 wrote: Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? The thing that I’m curious about is how this impacts the lower tier bowls (MAC)? The first round playoff games will evidently be played during the weekend before Xmas (Dec 16-22), which is when most of the MAC bowls were programmed. The MAC bowls would lose purpose now as kind of filler games. I think it will lessen the importance of what will most certainly considered even more conciliatory bowls - but how much of the national audience really cares about those bowls anyway? I don't really believe the viewing audience changes that much for them. Perhaps they become even more like football's version of the NIT but, they already kinda are. That said, as far as scheduling, you simply schedule the Quicklane, Frisco, and Wasabi bowls of the world on days where there isn't a playoff game. Pretty simple really. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/9/2022 12:32:55 PM  Deion is big at the gate as he put 40,000 fans in the stands at Jackson St. PAC-12 mostly isn't big recruiting so should be alright. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/11/2022 1:49:57 PM  Bobcat Jerry wrote: 12 team college playoff seems a bit much. It can't be about the money right ? One of the main arguments by the powers that be was that by expanding the playoff to 12 the possibility of more geographical representation than Ohio-Michigan or Georgia-Alabama than in the 4 team playoff. Top 6 conference champions are guaranteed and when the PAC-12 or ACC has that down year the G5 can very well get a second rep once in a while. There is a second vehicle of a G5 outright finishing in the Top 10-12 without winning the conference, unlikely unless they have a Heisman caliber player. Two G5s might happen once every 6-8 seasons. Latest I read while they are using bowl games for quarterfinal sites in 2024 and 2025 there is momentum for having those games at home in 2026 and having the semifinals on New Years as its played today. That would mean the first round and semifinal round teams won't be playing in bowl games so the system will need 4 less games, not accounting for the FCS move ups. Then who do you put in the Fiesta, Cotton, Peach, Orange, Sugar when they aren't hosting a semifinal? The entire bowl system as we know it should be redesigned. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,341 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/11/2022 4:00:23 PM  I think it should be noted that the first time a team seeded lower than 4 wins the CFP, there will be a resounding whine from fans of the top 4 that it doesn’t really matter. The idea that you can make people satisfied with a “definitive” football national champ is naive. SEC doesn’t respect a B1G champ who doesn’t respect the Big 12 and no one respects the PAC 12 or the AAC. More TV is all that matters here. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,280 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/11/2022 5:43:09 PM  Bobcatbob wrote: I think it should be noted that the first time a team seeded lower than 4 wins the CFP, there will be a resounding whine from fans of the top 4 that it doesn’t really matter. The idea that you can make people satisfied with a “definitive” football national champ is naive. SEC doesn’t respect a B1G champ who doesn’t respect the Big 12 and no one respects the PAC 12 or the AAC. More TV is all that matters here. That college football fans became so used to a system where deciding who the best team is often didn't involve the best teams playing football against each other doesn't strike me as a good argument against an expanded playoff. In fact, the opposite seems true to me. Deciding it on the field makes fans' perceptions of other conferences irrelevant. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,912 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/12/2022 2:18:56 PM  In the minority and the horse has been beaten to death, but the FCS playoff game I watched this weekend between SDSU-Holy Cross was way more fun to watch compared to Larry's Tire Shop Cheez Whiz Bowl presented by Citizens Bank of Athens County.com. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,280 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/12/2022 3:04:17 PM  GoCats105 wrote: In the minority and the horse has been beaten to death, but the FCS playoff game I watched this weekend between SDSU-Holy Cross was way more fun to watch compared to Larry's Tire Shop Cheez Whiz Bowl presented by Citizens Bank of Athens County.com. It was a more meaningful game than Ohio has played in in the last, I dunno, 40 years? 50? Forever? I'm in total agreement. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/12/2022 3:53:29 PM  GoCats105 wrote: In the minority and the horse has been beaten to death, but the FCS playoff game I watched this weekend between SDSU-Holy Cross was way more fun to watch compared to Larry's Tire Shop Cheez Whiz Bowl presented by Citizens Bank of Athens County.com. Any game OHIO is playing is categorically more important than any other game being played that day! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,304 Status: Offline     RE: Everyone gets a ribbon !    Posted: 12/13/2022 10:17:51 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: GoCats105 wrote: In the minority and the horse has been beaten to death, but the FCS playoff game I watched this weekend between SDSU-Holy Cross was way more fun to watch compared to Larry's Tire Shop Cheez Whiz Bowl presented by Citizens Bank of Athens County.com. Any game OHIO is playing is categorically more important than any other game being played that day! Boom. 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