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Posted: 7/26/2021 3:09 PM
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Pretty sure it will be either 14-0 or 13-1(TAMU) for both Texas and Oklahoma’s SEC membership. Once it’s clear they have the votes to get in, everyone will vote yes for it.
Just heard a sports blurb on the radio.

Its an anonymous source, but they said its a done deal,13-1 with
A&M voting no.
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Posted: 7/26/2021 6:13 PM
I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division.
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Posted: 7/26/2021 7:20 PM
If it ends up with 4 conferences, then that would be perfect for me. Keep the playoffs at four teams - the four conference champions. No polls, no politics. Just the four teams who won their way in on the field.
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Posted: 7/26/2021 7:27 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division.
Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )?
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Posted: 7/26/2021 9:42 PM
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If it ends up with 4 conferences, then that would be perfect for me. Keep the playoffs at four teams - the four conference champions. No polls, no politics. Just the four teams who won their way in on the field.
Like the time Penn State was the Big 10 conference champ, but Ohio State went to the "playoffs"?
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:30 AM
Precisely !!!
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:02 AM
colobobcat66 wrote:expand_more
I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division.
Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )?
Army, Navy, and Air Force will want in and Congress will (in public and behind the scenes) make it happen.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:30 AM
this is why i think you need to either think about 5 16 team leagues or 4 20 team leagues. because when you break down all the teams and influences that your not going to get down to 64 but there will be a break in next 10 years and it will be 80 teams or less

unless you go totally the other way and you dwindle it down to 48 teams.
Last Edited: 7/27/2021 11:31:29 AM by SVAC83
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:36 PM
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
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Posted: 7/27/2021 1:51 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 2:16 PM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
Last Edited: 7/27/2021 2:17:00 PM by GoCats105
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Posted: 7/27/2021 4:43 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
I've seen crazier things happen.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 5:05 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard.

And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 10:31 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Pretty sure it will be either 14-0 or 13-1(TAMU) for both Texas and Oklahoma’s SEC membership. Once it’s clear they have the votes to get in, everyone will vote yes for it.
Just heard a sports blurb on the radio.

Its an anonymous source, but they said its a done deal,13-1 with
A&M voting no.
A&M released a statement today that they would support Texas.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:01 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard.

And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad.
Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC:

East
UConn
Buffalo
UMass
Temple
WVU
Ohio
Louisville
Cincy

West
Memphis
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State

Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state.
I've seen crazier things happen.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:35 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard.

And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad.
Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC:

East
UConn
Buffalo
UMass
Temple
WVU
Ohio
Louisville
Cincy

West
Memphis
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State

Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state.
Well, I don't think anything like this will happen now, but years ago the MAC blew a deal that had Louisville and Cincinnati ready to join the MAC. It was a big headline in newspapers around the area -- including the Columbus Citizen-Journal (anybody remember that one?). However, the deal fell through because at the last minute the MAC Daddies refused to increase the MAC football scholarship number to the then national D1 limit of 105. In UC's case, of course, it was a chance to rejoin the MAC. This was back in the days when the MAC was a seven team league with Ohio, Toledo, BGSU, WMU, Kent State, Miami, and Marshall. These additions would have made it a nine-team league. I was so excited when this was announced, and I felt crushed when it fell through a few days later. I won't get my hopes up again, and it seems much less logical and possible today than it did back then. Louisville was much less a power program in football and basketball at that time, and Cincinnati had not yet tasted the glory of the Big East and BCS football. I think that boat has sailed.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 7:00 AM
I believe UC was a charter member of the MAC. UC was a member from 1946 and left in 1953.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 7:20 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard.

And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad.
Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC:

East
UConn
Buffalo
UMass
Temple
WVU
Ohio
Louisville
Cincy

West
Memphis
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State

Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state.
Really living up to your username here.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 10:27 AM
Flat Tire wrote:expand_more
I believe UC was a charter member of the MAC. UC was a member from 1946 and left in 1953.
And, their leaving was not voluntary, either, despite how it looks on paper. My father was president of the Faculty Advisory Council (precursor to Faculty Senate) and was in on the debate. Ohio University and a majority of the MAC administrations asked UC to withdraw. I don't remember the details that Dad told me, but it revolved around recruiting and/or player eligibility irregularities in football.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 10:29 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today.

Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit?
If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason.

If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons.
The former. Of course they would join the super.
It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football.
Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard.

And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad.
Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC:

East
UConn
Buffalo
UMass
Temple
WVU
Ohio
Louisville
Cincy

West
Memphis
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State

Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state.
Hey if you wanna get silly, at least be a little bit realistic.

Conference-USA blows up and the remaining parts are spread to the MAC, Sun Belt, and upcoming new WAC. Army decides they want to join a conference because of the new playoff structure.

Calling this 16-team conference BIG MAC, sponsored by McDonalds.

POD 1: Kent State, Akron, Buffalo, Army
POD 2: Miami, Toledo, Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan
POD 3: Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, Northern Illinois
POD 4: Ohio, Marshall, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee

In this scenario Ohio is probably getting screwed the most because they don't maintain any of their natural rivalries. But this makes it easiest on travel for everyone.

Nine game conference schedule, playing everyone in your POD every season. Then you play two opponents from every other POD on a rotation schedule.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 10:37 AM
Don't know about the pods, GoCats105, but I do think Marshall, WKU, and maybe MTU make a lot of sense in a realigned MAC. I'd also throw EMU out, and maybe Akron. Maybe add Illinois State and Indiana State.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:15 PM
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Don't know about the pods, GoCats105, but I do think Marshall, WKU, and maybe MTU make a lot of sense in a realigned MAC. I'd also throw EMU out, and maybe Akron. Maybe add Illinois State and Indiana State.
Sure lets throw out some and try to establish new conference mates AND level them up from FCS to FBS. If we're gonna do that, at least bring in a great football program like James Madison.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:51 PM
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I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division.
Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )?
Army, Navy, and Air Force will want in and Congress will (in public and behind the scenes) make it happen.
And I personally would be more than OK with this.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 4:38 PM
As they say here in Western PA, yinz guys are really thinking about this stuff!
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Posted: 7/28/2021 7:11 PM
Introducing the 20 Team SEC.

Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Texas A&M
Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss and Mississippi State
Alabama. Auburn, Tennessee and Vanderbilt
Georgia, Florida, Kentucky and South Carolina
Ohio, West Virginia, Clemson, Florida State

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