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Author Message Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/4/2016 8:42:38 PM  I seem to remember several seasons ago there was a much ballyhooed emphasis from the conference office for all MAC teams to schedule up for RPI and other reasons. There was talk of certain penalties for teams that wouldn't do that. Now, it seems that over the half the league played a pretty weak OOC schedule this year. What happened to the previous directive to play tougher schedules? Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,597 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 8:28:48 AM  Jeff McKinney wrote: I seem to remember several seasons ago there was a much ballyhooed emphasis from the conference office for all MAC teams to schedule up for RPI and other reasons. There was talk of certain penalties for teams that wouldn't do that. Now, it seems that over the half the league played a pretty weak OOC schedule this year. What happened to the previous directive to play tougher schedules? Wasn't there some secret formula with multiple factors. I ask this because wasn't overall OOC wins part of that formula? Maybe (speculation) teams felt getting wins more important to the payday than RPI. Not sure, but I agree this years overall OOC schedule seems weak.. With a lot of garbage wins. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,619 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 9:21:56 AM  Jeff McKinney wrote: I seem to remember several seasons ago there was a much ballyhooed emphasis from the conference office for all MAC teams to schedule up for RPI and other reasons. There was talk of certain penalties for teams that wouldn't do that. Now, it seems that over the half the league played a pretty weak OOC schedule this year. What happened to the previous directive to play tougher schedules? Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. It's win the MAC Tournament or nothing. You could be 0-28 entering the MACT and win 4 games and you're going dancing. It sucks but that's the way it is. So teams are doing what they need to do to get wins. Look how few games everyone played vs big named schools and how many non DI schools there were. It's why I'm glad MAC play is finally here. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 10:43:33 AM  When you look at the number of non-D1 opponents, that's something that must change. The conference needs to install some kind of mandate about that, such as, you get to play 1, and be granted exception if someone backs out on your schedule. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 11:16:16 AM  OhioBobcat wrote: Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. Toledo in 2014 (I assume that's the Rocket team you are referring to) is the poster child for why the MAC doesn't get at-large bids. It has nothing to do with the MAC getting shafted. It has everything to do with Toledo not deserving it. What was their signature win that year? Cleveland State? Their second best OOC win was a Boston College team so bad they stole our coach after the season. Their not getting an at-large should have been a confirmation of how their scheduling practices cost them any consideration just as Akron's had in 2007. They played three games against teams in the top 100 (Ken Pom) all season long (and one of those was in the NIT) and lost to two of them. If they had played our schedule (We played six top 100 teams) they probably get in. You don't have to play a ton of P5 teams in their gyms. But you do have to schedule good teams. Getting home and homes against MVC or A-10 teams and playing neutral court tournaments against P5s should be the goal IMO. But the MAC isn't getting shafted and it's not impossible to get at-larges. It just hasn't happened. The teams that might have gotten an at-large have won the tournament. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 12:59:09 PM  OUVan wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. Toledo in 2014 (I assume that's the Rocket team you are referring to) is the poster child for why the MAC doesn't get at-large bids. It has nothing to do with the MAC getting shafted. It has everything to do with Toledo not deserving it. What was their signature win that year? Cleveland State? Their second best OOC win was a Boston College team so bad they stole our coach after the season. Their not getting an at-large should have been a confirmation of how their scheduling practices cost them any consideration just as Akron's had in 2007. They played three games against teams in the top 100 (Ken Pom) all season long (and one of those was in the NIT) and lost to two of them. If they had played our schedule (We played six top 100 teams) they probably get in. You don't have to play a ton of P5 teams in their gyms. But you do have to schedule good teams. Getting home and homes against MVC or A-10 teams and playing neutral court tournaments against P5s should be the goal IMO. But the MAC isn't getting shafted and it's not impossible to get at-larges. It just hasn't happened. The teams that might have gotten an at-large have won the tournament. This may be going back too far, but the 94-95 Bobcats should have had an at-large with a 24-10 record with road losses to Kentucky, Iowa and Xavier. They had one of the best OOC schedules in history, an NBA player, a national preseason tourney win... I don't foresee a MAC at-large again in the very near future, regardless of the OOC schedule. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 2:28:56 PM  OhioStunter wrote: This may be going back too far, but the 94-95 Bobcats should have had an at-large with a 24-10 record with road losses to Kentucky, Iowa and Xavier. They had one of the best OOC schedules in history, an NBA player, a national preseason tourney win... I don't foresee a MAC at-large again in the very near future, regardless of the OOC schedule. Doomed by the loss of Jeff Boals. The problem with that team was that our NCAA resume was all in November. We finished a mundane 8-5 after Boals went down. We finished 2nd in the conference and lost in the semis. If Miami had beaten Ball State in the tournament we might have gotten in. But with Ball State winning that meant that Miami, who finished 1st and beat us twice was getting the at-large. I don't remember who the last teams in that year were but I do remember that I didn't think we were getting in. We just didn't have anything but the Pre-season NIT and Gary Trent to hang our hat on. Back to Top LuckySparrow General User Member Since: 10/15/2012 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,754 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 3:58:31 PM  Definitely weak all across the board. NIU played 4 non-DI schools, but also played at Mizzou and Ohio A&M. And it looks like EMU sort of did the same thing, with 4 non-DI schools and then games against Oakland, Louisville, Michigan State, and Penn State. The MAC doesn't really feature a GREAT team this season, yet. CMU had the looks of a dominant MAC team, hasn't fared well so far. Akron... yeah, they're pretty solid but I don't think they'll run through this league. Toledo lost a lot. Ohio is above average, potentially. NIU and Eastern are both looking improved... It's going to be fun to figure these teams out as we enter conference play. What a day at the Convo.....Wow! Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 4:14:29 PM  OUVan wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. Toledo in 2014 (I assume that's the Rocket team you are referring to) is the poster child for why the MAC doesn't get at-large bids. It has nothing to do with the MAC getting shafted. It has everything to do with Toledo not deserving it. What was their signature win that year? Cleveland State? Their second best OOC win was a Boston College team so bad they stole our coach after the season. Their not getting an at-large should have been a confirmation of how their scheduling practices cost them any consideration just as Akron's had in 2007. They played three games against teams in the top 100 (Ken Pom) all season long (and one of those was in the NIT) and lost to two of them. If they had played our schedule (We played six top 100 teams) they probably get in. You don't have to play a ton of P5 teams in their gyms. But you do have to schedule good teams. Getting home and homes against MVC or A-10 teams and playing neutral court tournaments against P5s should be the goal IMO. But the MAC isn't getting shafted and it's not impossible to get at-larges. It just hasn't happened. The teams that might have gotten an at-large have won the tournament. Exactly. Last season is another good example. The MAC finished 10th in RPI but was the only conference in the top 12 to not earn an at-large bid. The regular season MAC champ and MACC runner up was CMU. CMU was also 2nd in the conference in RPI at #70 and had an SOS of #162. Buffalo, the MACC Champ and auto-bid winner was #28. CMU were eliminated from at-large consideration before conference play began with an absurdly awful OOC schedule. Here's their OOC schedule ranked by RPI- W 127 Northwestern W 274 Grand Canyon W 279 McNeese St. L 288 Bradley W 291 Youngstown St W 292 SIU Edwardsville W 301 AR Pine Bluff W 339 Maine Not listed are the 3 non-D1 opponents. You can't put together a non conference schedule where 1 team finishes with an RPI better than #274 and expect to be given an at-large bid at the end of the season. By comparison, here's CMU's RPI/SOS compared to the teams from the 11th and 12th ranked conferences that earned at-large bids last year for added context- 17/98 Wichita St 26/76 SDSU 28/79 Buffalo 40/116 Boise St 70/162 CMU Buffalo was in a good position to make a case for an at-large but it was CMU's terrible OOC scheduling that kept them out of at-large consideration, not any conspiracy or bias against the MAC. And this season will be no different. With conference play about to begin tonight here's the current SOS for the teams in the MAC- SOS (out of 351) 51 EMU 65 Buffalo 95 Kent St 178 Miami 206 WMU 209 Ohio 280 CMU 295 NIU 319 Akron 329 Toledo 345 BGSU 349 Ball St Absolutely pathetic. Out of 32 conferences the MAC's SOS ranks 27th. Last Edited: 1/5/2016 4:15:34 PM by perimeterpost MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 4:27:56 PM  perimeterpost wrote: OUVan wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. Toledo in 2014 (I assume that's the Rocket team you are referring to) is the poster child for why the MAC doesn't get at-large bids. It has nothing to do with the MAC getting shafted. It has everything to do with Toledo not deserving it. What was their signature win that year? Cleveland State? Their second best OOC win was a Boston College team so bad they stole our coach after the season. Their not getting an at-large should have been a confirmation of how their scheduling practices cost them any consideration just as Akron's had in 2007. They played three games against teams in the top 100 (Ken Pom) all season long (and one of those was in the NIT) and lost to two of them. If they had played our schedule (We played six top 100 teams) they probably get in. You don't have to play a ton of P5 teams in their gyms. But you do have to schedule good teams. Getting home and homes against MVC or A-10 teams and playing neutral court tournaments against P5s should be the goal IMO. But the MAC isn't getting shafted and it's not impossible to get at-larges. It just hasn't happened. The teams that might have gotten an at-large have won the tournament. Exactly. Last season is another good example. The MAC finished 10th in RPI but was the only conference in the top 12 to not earn an at-large bid. The regular season MAC champ and MACC runner up was CMU. CMU was also 2nd in the conference in RPI at #70 and had an SOS of #162. Buffalo, the MACC Champ and auto-bid winner was #28. CMU were eliminated from at-large consideration before conference play began with an absurdly awful OOC schedule. Here's their OOC schedule ranked by RPI- W 127 Northwestern W 274 Grand Canyon W 279 McNeese St. L 288 Bradley W 291 Youngstown St W 292 SIU Edwardsville W 301 AR Pine Bluff W 339 Maine Not listed are the 3 non-D1 opponents. You can't put together a non conference schedule where 1 team finishes with an RPI better than #274 and expect to be given an at-large bid at the end of the season. By comparison, here's CMU's RPI/SOS compared to the teams from the 11th and 12th ranked conferences that earned at-large bids last year for added context- 17/98 Wichita St 26/76 SDSU 28/79 Buffalo 40/116 Boise St 70/162 CMU Buffalo was in a good position to make a case for an at-large but it was CMU's terrible OOC scheduling that kept them out of at-large consideration, not any conspiracy or bias against the MAC. And this season will be no different. With conference play about to begin tonight here's the current SOS for the teams in the MAC- SOS (out of 351) 51 EMU 65 Buffalo 95 Kent St 178 Miami 206 WMU 209 Ohio 280 CMU 295 NIU 319 Akron 329 Toledo 345 BGSU 349 Ball St Absolutely pathetic. Out of 32 conferences the MAC's SOS ranks 27th. The last tourney win from a MAC team not named Ohio was 12 years ago. Back to Top NIU007b General User Member Since: 11/25/2011 Post Count: 69 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 5:07:09 PM  I don't know what's up with scheduling 4 non-Division 1 teams. I've never seen anything like it. Most years (since I can remember) we'll have maybe 1 exhibition game against a lower division, and 1 regular game against a lower division. If this had been done a few years ago, with how bad the team was, I could almost see it. This year, I have no idea why they did that. And EMU did that too. Puzzling. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 9:22:50 PM  perimeterpost wrote: And this season will be no different. With conference play about to begin tonight here's the current SOS for the teams in the MAC- SOS (out of 351) 51 EMU EMU's schedule strength is a complete lie. Yes, their D1 schedule has been tough but they lost to all the toughies by double digits. Half their wins are against non-D1 teams. But they played 4 teams worse than our bottom three opponents (have no idea how Ohio Dominican stacks up in the creampuff line). #eyetest Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/5/2016 10:00:24 PM  OUVan wrote: perimeterpost wrote: And this season will be no different. With conference play about to begin tonight here's the current SOS for the teams in the MAC- SOS (out of 351) 51 EMU EMU's schedule strength is a complete lie. Yes, their D1 schedule has been tough but they lost to all the toughies by double digits. Half their wins are against non-D1 teams. But they played 4 teams worse than our bottom three opponents (have no idea how Ohio Dominican stacks up in the creampuff line). #eyetest non-D1 opponents are not factored into SOS. The SOS is accurate, you just have to view it it in context of a record of 4-5, not 8-5. L 6 @Michigan St L 30 @Louisville L 73 @Penn St W 111 Detroit W 123 Vermont L 134 N Florida L 138 @Oakland W 179 @Omaha W 289 @Coppin St That's a solid OOC schedule, the biggest issue I see is 6 of 9 games are on the road. By comparison, here is Ohio's schedule- L 75 @St. Bona L 82 vTulsa L 90 vFlorida St W 163 Florida GC W 169 Marshall W 174 vCleveland St W 205 vNorfolk St W 216 AR Pine Bluff W 223 Jackson St W 226 Tennessee St W 279 UC Riverside The bottom 3 teams on our schedule are all better than any non-D1 team we would schedule but does it really matter? They're still considered buyout cupcake games. Is EMU being smart by scheduling cupcakes that don't sink their SOS? MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 9:45:50 AM  perimeterpost wrote: And this season will be no different. With conference play about to begin tonight here's the current SOS for the teams in the MAC- SOS (out of 351) 51 EMU 65 Buffalo 95 Kent St 178 Miami 206 WMU 209 Ohio 280 CMU 295 NIU 319 Akron 329 Toledo 345 BGSU 349 Ball St Absolutely pathetic. Out of 32 conferences the MAC's SOS ranks 27th. Besides the actual SOS numbers, why aren't non-D1 opponents factored in? Why not make every one of them the highest RPI possible? The MAC has to mandate something with regard to SOS. This is absurd. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 10:11:03 AM  perimeterpost wrote: non-D1 opponents are not factored into SOS. The SOS is accurate, you just have to view it it in context of a record of 4-5, not 8-5. L 6 @Michigan St L 30 @Louisville L 73 @Penn St W 111 Detroit W 123 Vermont L 134 N Florida L 138 @Oakland W 179 @Omaha W 289 @Coppin St That's a solid OOC schedule, the biggest issue I see is 6 of 9 games are on the road. By comparison, here is Ohio's schedule- L 75 @St. Bona L 82 vTulsa L 90 vFlorida St W 163 Florida GC W 169 Marshall W 174 vCleveland St W 205 vNorfolk St W 216 AR Pine Bluff W 223 Jackson St W 226 Tennessee St W 279 UC Riverside The bottom 3 teams on our schedule are all better than any non-D1 team we would schedule but does it really matter? They're still considered buyout cupcake games. Is EMU being smart by scheduling cupcakes that don't sink their SOS? It does matter. If you remove the bottom three RPI teams we played and replace them with non-D1 opponents then our SOS goes from 172 to 140. Or assign an RPI value to the non-D1 opponents, which would be somewhere around 340+ then all of a sudden EMU's SOS is crap. But the bigger point is that they have put together a schedule that removes them from any at-large consideration unless they have an other-worldly conference record (think 17-1 or 18-0). But as soon as you set them next to other at-large worthy schools the first thing that the analyst will say is "Hey, they played 4 non-D1 teams". Sorry, but their SOS is an illusion. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 1:19:38 PM  The coaches pretty much set the schedule. I figure the weak schedules are due to: 1. MAC Coaches think the MAC is a low-major and schedule similar programs. 2. MAC Coaches realizing they don't have that much talent, and scheduling accordingly. 3. MAC Coaches knowing that when it comes to keeping your job your overall record is far more important than anything else, so schedule some wins and keep your job. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,597 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 1:40:40 PM  OUVan wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: Yes, you are correct, there was a concerted effort to do that. It was a good idea, but since the NCAA still won't give the MAC an at-large bid (like Toledo should have gotten a few years ago), what's the point anymore. Toledo in 2014 (I assume that's the Rocket team you are referring to) is the poster child for why the MAC doesn't get at-large bids. It has nothing to do with the MAC getting shafted. It has everything to do with Toledo not deserving it. What was their signature win that year? Cleveland State? Their second best OOC win was a Boston College team so bad they stole our coach after the season. Their not getting an at-large should have been a confirmation of how their scheduling practices cost them any consideration just as Akron's had in 2007. They played three games against teams in the top 100 (Ken Pom) all season long (and one of those was in the NIT) and lost to two of them. If they had played our schedule (We played six top 100 teams) they probably get in. You don't have to play a ton of P5 teams in their gyms. But you do have to schedule good teams. Getting home and homes against MVC or A-10 teams and playing neutral court tournaments against P5s should be the goal IMO. But the MAC isn't getting shafted and it's not impossible to get at-larges. It just hasn't happened. The teams that might have gotten an at-large have won the tournament. +1000 The myth that the MAC doesn't get at-large bids because of some conspiracy is one of the dumbest things I read on this board. Anyone perpetuating this needs to apply their brain cells more effectively. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 2:23:19 PM  Optimist, I will ask this though: Do you think there's a bias toward "power conference" teams, and therefore against mid-majors, in the selection process? I've always wondered when they're looking at this first in, last out list of at-large teams, if they know specifically what teams they're looking at, or if they're looking at numbers of a resume for team 1, team 2, etc. I ask for thoughts on that, while agreeing with the notion that the MAC typically hasn't had many teams with non-conf resumes worthy of consideration. I sometimes think mid-majors get jobbed when bubble time comes around though. And if SOS can't include non-D1 teams in it's equation, it's effectively useless. I've argued it's useless to measure at-large teams on SOS anyway unless they use only non-conference SOS. That shows a team's real mettle to me, because it shows who they CHOSE to play on their own. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 2:45:46 PM  OU_Country wrote: Optimist, I will ask this though: Do you think there's a bias toward "power conference" teams, and therefore against mid-majors, in the selection process? I've always wondered when they're looking at this first in, last out list of at-large teams, if they know specifically what teams they're looking at, or if they're looking at numbers of a resume for team 1, team 2, etc. I ask for thoughts on that, while agreeing with the notion that the MAC typically hasn't had many teams with non-conf resumes worthy of consideration. I sometimes think mid-majors get jobbed when bubble time comes around though. And if SOS can't include non-D1 teams in it's equation, it's effectively useless. I've argued it's useless to measure at-large teams on SOS anyway unless they use only non-conference SOS. That shows a team's real mettle to me, because it shows who they CHOSE to play on their own. I would say that there is most decidedly a bias against mids but not as much in basketball as there is in football. But that doesn't mean that it's hopeless. I'd also add that it's not always been the OOC resume that has done our teams in. We've had a few at-large worthy teams coming out of December that have been done in by the conference schedule. Miami in 2005, Ball State around 2002 and us in 1995 come to mind. Back to Top BuddyLee General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 682 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 6:56:23 PM  I have to imagine we are the top rated conference not to have multiple teams make the tourney, since the last time it actually happened. Scheduling may be a factor, but our conference just seems to have too many good but not great teams year to year. Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/6/2016 6:59:35 PM  The lowest RPI ranked team to get an at-large bid last year was #61 Indiana. Here's a list of every team ranked better than 61 that didn't receive an auto or at large bid- RPI/SOS 29/111 Colorado State 34/62 Temple 45/146 Old Dominion 46/91 Tulsa 49/190 Iona 54/148 Green Bay 56/186 La Tech 57/47 Richmond 59/46 Stanford Raw data: http://realtimerpi.com/2014-2015/rpi_Men.html Does this prove a bias vs mid majors, or did these specific teams just not have a good enough resume? BTW you have to add 8 more teams to that list before you get to the 2nd best MAC team, CMU. Hard to say that the MAC deserved a 2nd a bid when 17 other teams in front of CMU were left out too. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top oubobcatjohn General User Member Since: 1/1/2005 Post Count: 825 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/7/2016 12:29:37 AM  Ohio should play Ohio State, West Virginia, Pitt, Cincinnati, Xavier, and Dayton every year even if none of them will come to Athens. Get those games all on TV. Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/7/2016 12:57:47 AM  I thought the directive coming from the MAC in regards to OOC scheduling was to prioritize home games, they wanted to get away from the Fiami model of pay-for-play road warriors. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top bn9 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 422 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/7/2016 8:55:13 AM  oubobcatjohn wrote: Ohio should play Ohio State, West Virginia, Pitt, Cincinnati, Xavier, and Dayton every year even if none of them will come to Athens. Get those games all on TV. I agree, we should play all of those teams every year, even if they don't want to play us. We will just show up WWE style after one of their home games, grab the PA mic and demand that they play us by insulting their team, home town, coach and university as a whole. Seems like it should work. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: MAC scheduling philosophy...what has happened?    Posted: 1/7/2016 12:32:07 PM  oubobcatjohn wrote: Ohio should play Ohio State, West Virginia, Pitt, Cincinnati, Xavier, and Dayton every year even if none of them will come to Athens. Get those games all on TV. Would love to play some of these teams. But, all 6 every year is program suicide. Nobody plays that tough a non-conference schedule. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 25 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 183 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 183 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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