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FearLeon
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 5:33:39 PM 
They've obviously mailed it in.
Playing with no intensity and zero desire to focus on transition defense.
Not fouling the opposition down 11 with 2:45 to go?
2-3 from the free throw line?
Outscored by 25 points over final 30 minutes to Miami (OH)??? Not Duke...not Kentucky....not Kansas...but Miami (OH)???

Has to rank as one of the worst performances in OHIO basketball history.


Last Edited: 2/14/2015 5:37:18 PM by FearLeon

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Danny's Knee
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 5:35:37 PM 
BANG !! .... Unbelievable !!

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 5:50:20 PM 
The away game at Eastern has to be worse. I doubt this is in the bottom 25. We have had much better Ohio teams lose to teams as bad or worse than this Miami team so I'm not buying it.

Last Edited: 2/14/2015 5:55:04 PM by colobobcat66
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 6:15:15 PM 
Miami just followed the playbook on how to beat us in the second half. Pressure our guards on defense and drive on offense. Our bigs didn't look like they were interested in our perimeter players getting them in foul trouble today. I don't know that we have a player on the roster that wants to make defense his calling card. Would love to see what the mentality of this team would be if Ricardo Johnson had been granted another year.

It was pretty shocking to see the coaching staff decide to punt there at the end though.
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Danny's Knee
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 6:23:44 PM 
Why don't the bobcats rebound on offense ? .... It's unbelievable !!

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 6:30:44 PM 
Danny's Knee wrote:
Why don't the bobcats rebound on offense ? .... It's unbelievable !!


Did you see the play late in the game where Tony took a three and the three players other than Mo sprinted back behind half court before the ball had even hit the rim? I'm sitting there thinking "Now we decided to hustle back on defense when what we really need to be doing is crashing the boards."
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 6:39:35 PM 
On that play is when I created the NO REBOUNDING !!!! thread

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 7:13:05 PM 
I just don't understand why we shoot 28 3'a in a game? That's lazy basketball.. We HAVE to penetrate the middle and get some shots inside.. WE ARE NOT THREE POINT SHOOTERS!!!
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 7:15:02 PM 
boydhallbobcat wrote:
WE ARE NOT THREE POINT SHOOTERS!!!


speak for yourself boydhallbobcat !!

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 7:20:43 PM 
BANG
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 7:30:20 PM 
my first game at Miami, had to show my respect for charlie.

first half was fun. halftime speech by Mrs coles was tremendous. the 2nd half was almost unbearable.

my impressions: Hurley isn't ready for prime time. he looked completely dejected on more than one occasion after losing possession via held ball or turnover (s). I hope he builds on this and increases his assertiveness and intensity.

Bean is a gunner. too many shots withouthe making a single pass and having no offensive rebounder near the bucket.

Taylor - I thought he played hard. I don't recall him creating a turnover.

Tony - love his game. an off season of hitting the weights hard will take his game up another notch.

Ndour- no idea why he doesn't touch ball, at least, on more possessions. I'm going to miss him. fun to watch.

R Taylor/Laster- too small of a sample size.

Treg- not the best game I've seen him play but I love his energy and enthusiasm. he'd be on my squad 7 days a week.

Miami really frustrated the Bobcats with their press. we seemed overpowered and timid on several occassions, whichave led to turnovers. Bean and Stevie seemed to struggle with press defenders length. passes were crisp. when we did break press we didn't attack rim at all. Miami did, almost at will.

I imagine Coach made an inspired speech at halftime in the Redhawks lockerroom. afterwards their squad was aggressive and changed the game.

I'm still behind Saul 100%. loved him putting in the walk on. he got burned for two threes, but had to come off his man to help prevent a layup both times.

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 8:33:11 PM 
OUVan wrote:
Danny's Knee wrote:
Why don't the bobcats rebound on offense ? .... It's unbelievable !!


Did you see the play late in the game where Tony took a three and the three players other than Mo sprinted back behind half court before the ball had even hit the rim? I'm sitting there thinking "Now we decided to hustle back on defense when what we really need to be doing is crashing the boards."


Teams typically have two options on shots. A) crash the boards B) get back on d. My least favorite thing from today is how we opted for B) yet still got beat back to the rim multiple times. Not good.
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oubobcatjohn
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 9:35:58 PM 
This team keeps proving why it one of the worst Ohio team in the last 25 years. Its going to be a long offseason for Phillips because the honeymoon is over. He will have a young team with his recruits next year. They may need a couple years to get back to where this program was, but at a minimum those players better play hard next year. Way to many double digit losses with the talent on this roster. Had a feeling Miami would beat us this year, because Miami despite their record plays hard. Ohio doesn't show up unless its a Big East team or hated Akron or Buffalo. Probably a good thing for Miami to beat us this year to remind us that this is a rivalry. These guys better have something waiting for Red Chicken in the next meeting. Even the worst Ohio teams don't let Miami beat us in Athens.
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 9:39:41 PM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
Even the worst Ohio teams don't let Miami beat us in Athens.


lolwut

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 9:52:56 PM 
OUVan wrote:
Miami just followed the playbook on how to beat us in the second half. Pressure our guards on defense and drive on offense. Our bigs didn't look like they were interested in our perimeter players getting them in foul trouble today. I don't know that we have a player on the roster that wants to make defense his calling card. Would love to see what the mentality of this team would be if Ricardo Johnson had been granted another year.

It was pretty shocking to see the coaching staff decide to punt there at the end though.


It's crazy how beatable this team can look when teams deploy this strategy. No rim protection. Really the only thing Ohio does well on defense is Mo/Tony blocking shots.

I agreed with punting at the end. We didn't even earn the right to pretend to be in the game.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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giacomo
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:17:36 PM 
What is embarrassing is the tone in this thread. Games are played and somebody wins and somebody loses. Our players play hard and want to win.
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RSBobcat
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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:38:03 PM 
giacomo wrote:
What is embarrassing is the tone in this thread. Games are played and somebody wins and somebody loses. Our players play hard and want to win.


OK - "Somebody" wanted to win "MORE". Who do you think it was?

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:47:06 PM 
Obc2 wrote:
my first game at Miami, had to show my respect for charlie.

first half was fun. halftime speech by Mrs coles was tremendous. the 2nd half was almost unbearable.

my impressions: Hurley isn't ready for prime time. he looked completely dejected on more than one occasion after losing possession via held ball or turnover (s). I hope he builds on this and increases his assertiveness and intensity.

Bean is a gunner. too many shots withouthe making a single pass and having no offensive rebounder near the bucket.

Taylor - I thought he played hard. I don't recall him creating a turnover.

Tony - love his game. an off season of hitting the weights hard will take his game up another notch.

Ndour- no idea why he doesn't touch ball, at least, on more possessions. I'm going to miss him. fun to watch.

R Taylor/Laster- too small of a sample size.

Treg- not the best game I've seen him play but I love his energy and enthusiasm. he'd be on my squad 7 days a week.

Miami really frustrated the Bobcats with their press. we seemed overpowered and timid on several occassions, whichave led to turnovers. Bean and Stevie seemed to struggle with press defenders length. passes were crisp. when we did break press we didn't attack rim at all. Miami did, almost at will.

I imagine Coach made an inspired speech at halftime in the Redhawks lockerroom. afterwards their squad was aggressive and changed the game.

I'm still behind Saul 100%. loved him putting in the walk on. he got burned for two threes, but had to come off his man to help prevent a layup both times.



Extremely nice post. Real and true and with insight.

I always those posts on EVERY board where fans are embarrassed and the team quit or had no pride or the most generic and patently wrong, "outcoached".

We all blow off steam but I am not sure this team or any Ohio team could embarrass me. I am a Bobcat fan and truly enjoyed seeing and talking to all the fans today. Seeing Ric and Paul Baron was special. Both shook their heads at the loss and gave an opinion but neither was embarrassed to be a Bobcat. None of us are happy with the team performance or that of individuals and some are angry with how their "investment" is performing. I do not think the staff or the players are very happy with the performance. If they are embarrassed I think they are really the ones have to shoulder that load, not us. Players come and go. Ohio University and the program are bigger than those individuals. Is anyone permenantly scarred by the football teams that underperformed?

I think we saw a bit of how our frosh are not quite ready to play a whole game and how the upper class who would normally mentor is not really providing that. I remember when we played teams that barked at each other and chewed each other out on the floor. We loved to see those teams. Today, we were that team... particularly in the 2nd half.

SO those that want to sit folks do not have a leg to stand on if they admonish Laster, harley or Taylor who are clearly not polished enough to fend off the redchicken pressure... Those that want folks to sit can not yell if Crabtree loses his man. Like giacomo, who may have some insight said above, there are kids out there trying hard. I do not believe any of them are going out there NOT wanting to win or build their skills. I do not believe any of them are going out there to embarrass us intentionally.

We have a team that is an amalgam of 3 coaches. Saul is delicately balancing egos, talent and skill levels, fragile frosh psyches and a number of other things. We all can imagine how hard it is to balance that time out huddle, locker room or practice time with all those different persons and issues flying every which way. None of us envy Saul and many would trade places for the money but we would find ourselves in the same crosshairs dodging the bullets the fans fire at us. Make no mistake...it is times like these that a coach truly earns his money. It is times like these that fans show their bones...it is not by sniping at each other. It is by looking at the program realistically and not rtionalizing but understanding what is going on and supporting our Bobcats while we rebuild and trust a bit in the process.

This is all of course, just one man's humble opinion. Feel free to voice your own.



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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:49:18 PM 
I don't think Ohio played as hard as they could have today. Playing hard isn't just hustling and those kind of obvious things.

Some tweets from Arkley to back up why I don't think we played hard today:

@JasonAmessenger
Saul Phillips said it was simple. Game turned on "our inability to get back defensively, take care of the ball, contain the dribbler."

@JasonAmessenger
Phillips also frustrated with team's attitude/psyche. Saw some Bobcats blaming other Bobcats today. That's not going to help anyone

@JasonAmessenger
"I'd rather see guys pick each other up, and I didn't see that. That's very frustrating for me." - Saul Phillips.

@JasonAmessenger
How many on-court huddles did you see? Especially after things started turning. Get together, help one other, that's what Phillips means

@JasonAmessenger
"You better respect the heck out of your teammates, out of the shared sacrifice. It helps guys not compound errors in their own mind." -- SP


Last Edited: 2/14/2015 10:49:42 PM by LuckySparrow

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:51:02 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
Obc2 wrote:
my first game at Miami, had to show my respect for charlie.

first half was fun. halftime speech by Mrs coles was tremendous. the 2nd half was almost unbearable.

my impressions: Hurley isn't ready for prime time. he looked completely dejected on more than one occasion after losing possession via held ball or turnover (s). I hope he builds on this and increases his assertiveness and intensity.

Bean is a gunner. too many shots withouthe making a single pass and having no offensive rebounder near the bucket.

Taylor - I thought he played hard. I don't recall him creating a turnover.

Tony - love his game. an off season of hitting the weights hard will take his game up another notch.

Ndour- no idea why he doesn't touch ball, at least, on more possessions. I'm going to miss him. fun to watch.

R Taylor/Laster- too small of a sample size.

Treg- not the best game I've seen him play but I love his energy and enthusiasm. he'd be on my squad 7 days a week.

Miami really frustrated the Bobcats with their press. we seemed overpowered and timid on several occassions, whichave led to turnovers. Bean and Stevie seemed to struggle with press defenders length. passes were crisp. when we did break press we didn't attack rim at all. Miami did, almost at will.

I imagine Coach made an inspired speech at halftime in the Redhawks lockerroom. afterwards their squad was aggressive and changed the game.

I'm still behind Saul 100%. loved him putting in the walk on. he got burned for two threes, but had to come off his man to help prevent a layup both times.



Extremely nice post. Real and true and with insight.

I always those posts on EVERY board where fans are embarrassed and the team quit or had no pride or the most generic and patently wrong, "outcoached".

We all blow off steam but I am not sure this team or any Ohio team could embarrass me. I am a Bobcat fan and truly enjoyed seeing and talking to all the fans today. Seeing Ric and Paul Baron was special. Both shook their heads at the loss and gave an opinion but neither was embarrassed to be a Bobcat. None of us are happy with the team performance or that of individuals and some are angry with how their "investment" is performing. I do not think the staff or the players are very happy with the performance. If they are embarrassed I think they are really the ones have to shoulder that load, not us. Players come and go. Ohio University and the program are bigger than those individuals. Is anyone permenantly scarred by the football teams that underperformed?

I think we saw a bit of how our frosh are not quite ready to play a whole game and how the upper class who would normally mentor is not really providing that. I remember when we played teams that barked at each other and chewed each other out on the floor. We loved to see those teams. Today, we were that team... particularly in the 2nd half.

SO those that want to sit folks do not have a leg to stand on if they admonish Laster, harley or Taylor who are clearly not polished enough to fend off the redchicken pressure... Those that want folks to sit can not yell if Crabtree loses his man. Like giacomo, who may have some insight said above, there are kids out there trying hard. I do not believe any of them are going out there NOT wanting to win or build their skills. I do not believe any of them are going out there to embarrass us intentionally.

We have a team that is an amalgam of 3 coaches. Saul is delicately balancing egos, talent and skill levels, fragile frosh psyches and a number of other things. We all can imagine how hard it is to balance that time out huddle, locker room or practice time with all those different persons and issues flying every which way. None of us envy Saul and many would trade places for the money but we would find ourselves in the same crosshairs dodging the bullets the fans fire at us. Make no mistake...it is times like these that a coach truly earns his money. It is times like these that fans show their bones...it is not by sniping at each other. It is by looking at the program realistically and not rtionalizing but understanding what is going on and supporting our Bobcats while we rebuild and trust a bit in the process.

This is all of course, just one man's humble opinion. Feel free to voice your own.





Good post. I agree. I still think one team wanted to win "more" than the other.

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 10:52:59 PM 
3 FT's. How is that not embarrassing? Clear evidence of degree of "wanting"...........

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 11:04:22 PM 
RSBobcat wrote:
3 FT's. How is that not embarrassing? Clear evidence of degree of "wanting"...........


Points in the paint - Fiami 38, OHIO 18 - That's Domination. Who "wanted" it more?

Embarrassing. Who wanted it more? "Going to" and "Stopping"?

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 11:10:43 PM 
From the ashes rises the Pigeon. I am very intoxicated! The Cats will rise from their Crappiness!

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 11:14:15 PM 
Urban Bobcat wrote:
From the ashes rises the Pigeon. I am very intoxicated! The Cats will rise from their Crappiness!


Yes we will. This year is just tough to swallow. We have lot's of parts, no "Bob the Builder"

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   Posted: 2/14/2015 11:17:19 PM 
WOW .. the doctor has many good points .. BANG .. oh baby what a big time post !!

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