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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  score the basketball
   Posted: 3/18/2015 11:06:11 PM 
I think that this has been discussed here before, but I was watching a little NIT tonight -- kind of warming up my watching skills for the Big Dance, and I heard this ridiculous expression. The announcer said that Vanderbilt had a lot of guys who knew how to "score the ball." This is right up there, IMHO, with "score the rock." Can't you just say, "lots of guys who can score"? Or, lots of good scorers? I wonder what things will be like tomorrow weather-wise? ;-)


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/18/2015 11:39:53 PM 
I still like it.


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   Posted: 3/19/2015 9:14:05 AM 
What type of marks qualify as scoring the basketball? Do you use an awl????


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 9:30:26 AM 
This has been discussed before, but I'm with you. You don't score the ball, you score points, and it's not even needed to use either. "Score" works just as well by itself.
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 9:39:31 AM 
Touchdown Seahawks! Marshawn Lynch just scored the football!

(said no one ever)



I think it's implied, and unnecessary to say when describing the game.
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 10:03:51 AM 
Along these same lines are the fools at ESPN who insist on pronouncing the "National Football League" every time. Just say NFL and move on, were are not discussing a sacred text here.

Brad Daugherty during his first go around as a hoops analyst would always use the word basketball too much.

"He is great at moving the basketball up the court and dishing the basketball off to a big guy for a basket. Just an all around good basketball player."
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 10:20:36 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I think that this has been discussed here before, but I was watching a little NIT tonight -- kind of warming up my watching skills for the Big Dance, and I heard this ridiculous expression. The announcer said that Vanderbilt had a lot of guys who knew how to "score the ball." This is right up there, IMHO, with "score the rock." Can't you just say, "lots of guys who can score"? Or, lots of good scorers? I wonder what things will be like tomorrow weather-wise? ;-)


I wonder if Dick Vitale and Bill Raftery might be regarded as the "fathers" of these annoying isms. Both men clearly worked hard at becoming descriptively creative.


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   Posted: 3/19/2015 11:44:39 AM 
Nice golf shot.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 12:04:56 PM 
And my favorite, "OCF, he." No wonder our grammar is so bad in this country today.
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 12:26:18 PM 
Why do we have to say "moving forward." Why not just say "in the future"?
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   Posted: 3/19/2015 12:34:49 PM 
Mine is "added bonus". I do not believe I have ever seen a bonus subtracted.
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 1:21:47 PM 
bn9 wrote:
Mine is "added bonus". I do not believe I have ever seen a bonus subtracted.


That's as grating a redundancy as ATM machine or PIN number. My first corporate job was in communications at a bank, and I fought those two in a sisyphean battle throughout my tenure.
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 2:05:45 PM 
bn9 wrote:
Mine is "added bonus". I do not believe I have ever seen a bonus subtracted.


I never thought about that!

Jeff: "Moving forward" implies progress.


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   Posted: 3/19/2015 4:59:45 PM 
prepositions ending a sentence and redundancies are pet peeves. Get the Preposition H was a favorite saying of my Grammie.

Where else but BA can you find SISYPHEAN asa regular part of message board chatter?


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 6:34:55 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
prepositions ending a sentence and redundancies are pet peeves.


Generally, it is good to avoid doing it, but few people realize it's not a grammar rule at all. Deep dive into word nerd land:

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-.../
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 10:16:09 PM 
My two latest pet sportscasting peeves:

* Basketball/football game, as in "We have two minutes left in this football game" or "He's the leading scorer in this basketball game." We know what kind of game it is.

* Announcers who don't know what time of day it is. They mostly think it's night, such as "He's had quite a night" even though it's 3:00 in the afternoon. Basketball announcers do this a lot, probably because they're indoors.


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 10:25:17 PM 
Then there's:

-"good no-call" (Usually said after the other player has been mugged, and the replay shows the mugging, and the announcers ignore what the reply actually shows.)

-"it is what it is" (Could it be what it wasn't?)

-or in the oblong-ball sport: "He made a football move" (Were you expecting a hockey move?)




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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 11:20:23 PM 
Isn't "football move" codified in the rules?


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/19/2015 11:57:28 PM 
JSF wrote:
Isn't "football move" codified in the rules?


Doesn't mean it's not trite.


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/20/2015 12:30:44 AM 
JSF wrote:
bn9 wrote:
Mine is "added bonus". I do not believe I have ever seen a bonus subtracted.


I never thought about that!

Jeff: "Moving forward" implies progress.


I can see that may have been the original intention, but doesn't it seem to you that most people use this as synonymous with "in the future"?
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   Posted: 3/20/2015 12:46:40 AM 
The team that scores the most points is going to win this game. Duh?


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/20/2015 9:06:32 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
The team that scores the most points is going to win this game. Duh?


"Team A is going to have to outscore Team B."


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/21/2015 12:39:39 AM 
JSF wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
The team that scores the most points is going to win this game. Duh?


"Team A is going to have to outscore Team B."


My favorite quote from Detroit firstbaseman Norm Cash. When asked about a pennant race when the Tigers were chasing the Yankees (as they usually were in the early '60s), he said "If we keep winning and they keep losing, we'll gain on them." Keen eye for the obvious, Norm.


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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/21/2015 12:44:26 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I think that this has been discussed here before, but I was watching a little NIT tonight -- kind of warming up my watching skills for the Big Dance, and I heard this ridiculous expression. The announcer said that Vanderbilt had a lot of guys who knew how to "score the ball." This is right up there, IMHO, with "score the rock." Can't you just say, "lots of guys who can score"? Or, lots of good scorers? I wonder what things will be like tomorrow weather-wise? ;-)


There was some comedian who brought this up for some reason a few years back. I just remember the follow-up being "what else are they supposed to do with the ball, punt it?"
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  Message Not Read  RE: score the basketball
   Posted: 3/21/2015 3:28:59 PM 
ts1227 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I think that this has been discussed here before, but I was watching a little NIT tonight -- kind of warming up my watching skills for the Big Dance, and I heard this ridiculous expression. The announcer said that Vanderbilt had a lot of guys who knew how to "score the ball." This is right up there, IMHO, with "score the rock." Can't you just say, "lots of guys who can score"? Or, lots of good scorers? I wonder what things will be like tomorrow weather-wise? ;-)


There was some comedian who brought this up for some reason a few years back. I just remember the follow-up being "what else are they supposed to do with the ball, punt it?"


The difference is that punting is actually something done TO a ball. points are scored. runs are scored. balls are thrown, hit, passed, fielded, kicked, caught, punted, dropped. The only time they are scored is at a Ginsu demonstration...and that would be an odd ginsu demonstration.
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