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Topic: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Topic: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

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xman
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Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/17/2015 9:35:07 PM

The sub players practice like everyone else and can't get one minute to feel like part of the team. The team can't even practice with 7 players

ts1227
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/17/2015 11:51:32 PM

xman wrote:

The sub players practice like everyone else and can't get one minute to feel like part of the team. The team can't even practice with 7 players

Because this isn't church league?

Urban Bobcat
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/18/2015 12:08:34 AM

ts1227 wrote:

xman wrote:

The sub players practice like everyone else and can't get one minute to feel like part of the team. The team can't even practice with 7 players

Because this isn't church league?

If we played the subs we would probably lose more games!!!

URBAN BOBCAT

LuckySparrow
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/18/2015 12:10:16 AM

But just one minute of Chandler Thomas couldn't hurt?

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

PhiTau74
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/18/2015 10:02:56 AM

More than the 20+ games we are on track to lose, who cares. Empty the bench.

OhioCatFan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 10:35:50 AM

I agree. I don't understand why we haven't seen more of the bench on the floor. [For you scoring at home, don't take that sentence literally.] The only explanation that I've been able to come up with is that at this point Saul has a very big "dog house" with about half the team in it. If this theory is correct a lot of guys aren't playing right now because of lack of effort in practice, violation of team rules, attitude problems, etc. Just one man's hypothesis.

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xman
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 6:41:55 PM

I know for sure that one of subs was told that they would not have a scholarship for the next season. So I know why he is getting passed buy when it comes to substitutions. Thought scholarships were pretty much a guaranteed if you didn't violate any team rules? Can't explain why any other of other players aren't seeing the floor.

BillyTheCat
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 6:45:12 PM

xman wrote:

And kudos to the P5 Conferences for voting this exact thing out of existence!!!! Scholarships should not be lost with new coaches, if true this is simply wrong.

xman
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 6:51:13 PM

This is the truth! Students first and athletes second, each student/athlete invest into the program. To have that taken away is a big deal fot the kids academics and futute. I see why so many student/athletes tranfer when there is not a full commitment from the athletic program.

bobcatsquared
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 7:36:27 PM

I, no doubt, rate xman as a credible source when it comes to Ohio basketball info.

bornacatfan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 9:36:10 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

I, no doubt, rate xman as a credible source when it comes to Ohio basketball info.

wait wait wait

you are going to doubt someone that joined 1/17 and has 5 posts?

I am gonna wait and see how this developes and see what other tidbits of inside info we get...should be good.

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OhioCatFan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 9:37:07 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

I, no doubt, rate xman as a credible source when it comes to Ohio basketball info.

Can you tell us why?

bornacatfan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 9:43:36 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

bobcatsquared wrote:

I, no doubt, rate xman as a credible source when it comes to Ohio basketball info.

Can you tell us why?

I have a feeling there was a missing ;)

OhioCatFan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/19/2015 10:45:59 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

bobcatsquared wrote:

I, no doubt, rate xman as a credible source when it comes to Ohio basketball info.

Can you tell us why?

I have a feeling there was a missing ;)

I was kind of wondering about that myself.

perimeterpost
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 12:11:01 AM

xman wrote:

You're telling us that either Setty, Chandler, Wadley or Harley has been told that his scholarship is being pulled next year? I don't believe you.

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OU_Country
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 9:13:48 AM

perimeterpost wrote:

xman wrote:

You're telling us that either Setty, Chandler, Wadley or Harley has been told that his scholarship is being pulled next year? I don't believe you.

I'd concur with this statement, but it wouldn't surprise me if 1 or 2 of them chose on their own to go elsewhere with more PT as their motivation.

FearLeon
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 10:11:46 AM

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

GoCats105
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 10:47:55 AM

FearLeon wrote:

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

I just don't get the lack of communication at this point. Seems like we heard all about his transfer and then the issues with the paperwork. Now? It's like he's not even on the team.

100%Cat
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 11:40:58 AM

GoCats105 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

I just don't get the lack of communication at this point. Seems like we heard all about his transfer and then the issues with the paperwork. Now? It's like he's not even on the team.

I hate to have to say it because I have read here he is a high character guy, but he was a bench player for one of the worst teams in the country before coming here, right? Have we considered he may just not be that good?

BillyTheCat
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 11:41:39 AM

GoCats105 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

I just don't get the lack of communication at this point. Seems like we heard all about his transfer and then the issues with the paperwork. Now? It's like he's not even on the team.

Edit: I just saw where he is a grad student, so I assume he has one to play one, since he has also been an undergrad transfer as well.

Last Edited: 1/20/2015 11:43:58 AM by BillyTheCat

Andrew Ruck
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 1:05:53 PM

100%Cat wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

I just don't get the lack of communication at this point. Seems like we heard all about his transfer and then the issues with the paperwork. Now? It's like he's not even on the team.

I continue to be baffled by others being baffled over Chandler Thomas' role. I guess it is a little surprising he hasn't had literally even a minute, but he was never going to be in the regular roation. I will once again quote our own Ted Thompson, who paraphrased this from Saul at the Dayton Caravan:

"Phillips said he won't take a lot of transfers but some here and there to fill holes. Said Thomas is a high-character guy. Phillips told him he would back up Ndour this season and that they would potentially recruit someone ahead of him the following year. Thomas told Phillips he just wanted to be a part of the Ohio program."

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GoCats105
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 1:25:34 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

The Chandler Thomas fiasco pretty much sums up the year. At this point, a wasted scholarship until proven otherwise.

I just don't get the lack of communication at this point. Seems like we heard all about his transfer and then the issues with the paperwork. Now? It's like he's not even on the team.

I see what you're saying Andrew and the reasoning, but not even a minute? If he's just a practice player then why waste the scholly?

OhioCatFan
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 1:29:13 PM

Very interesting quote. My translation of coach speak:

"We've got a few guys on this team who lack character and are kind of rudderless. The other good guys on the team aren't leaders. So, I'm going to give this guy a scholarship so that he can be a role model for these other players and take a leadership role in the locker room. I don't really care if he ever sees the floor during a game."

This is just one man's translation. Alternate translations solicited.

FearLeon
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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 1:53:51 PM

Absolutely mind boggling to waste a scholarship on a guy who wants to be part of the program, but might not have the ability to contribute. This one is on Saul. Given our lack of depth, why doesn't someone like Arkley or student media member ask Saul about this more in-depth?

As for Wadley, how does this guy come back next year? From starter at Florida Gulf Coast to zero minutes....just bizarre.

Last Edited: 1/20/2015 1:55:19 PM by FearLeon

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RE: Are the subs good enough to play one minute?

Posted: 1/20/2015 2:00:26 PM

FearLeon wrote:

As for Wadley, how does this guy come back next year? From starter at Florida Gulf Coast to zero minutes....just bizarre.

Probably because he's from Florida so he got to start on a "homecoming" game. Campbell came in for him at the 1st media timeout.

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