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Topic: Trouble in Paradise

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Speaker of Truth
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Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/25/2014 7:56:49 PM

By the looks of Twitter, I would say there is some drama on the team right now. Check out the Twitter feeds of some of the players. Hopefully nothing serious, but it's an underrated part of coaching to manage the locker room.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/25/2014 10:10:02 PM

I'm not on Twitter, can you post them for us or just summarize?

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/25/2014 10:41:05 PM

Twitter over past few hours. These are copied and pasted verbatim. No editing. NOT SURE OF CONTEXT, Just posting for all, so that you can draw your own conclusions.

Stevie (3 hours ago): Things have to change.

Nature Boy (3 hours ago) (Retweeted by Stevie): Wish I could go home and get away from Basketball.

Treg (3 hours ago): Drama drama drama smh

Stevie (3 hours ago): Gotta clear my head for a couple days.

Stevie (3 hours ago): A fresh start is needed.

Stevie (2 hours ago): Enjoyed my time here in Hawaii! Time to get back home and a start fresh awaits me.

Antonio (2 hours ago): Doesn't feel like Christmas!!

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/25/2014 10:45:47 PM

Like you said, no context and you never know what this all means. But for sure, this probably isn't the kind of stuff you want or expect from veteran leadership. Yes, it's been a rough start but you're in freaking Hawaii playing hoops as a 20 year old. Life can't be all that bad can it? I was over 75% in on going on this trip, then did a quick 360, glad I didnt' go.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/26/2014 12:04:04 AM

If you did a 360, then you went, right?

I'm not too worried about the social media stuff. They went on a trip that didn't work out well on the court. There appears to be no leader on the court. They're just pissed off about losing games. I think the team has a really good coaching staff. They'll figure it out and continue to get better as the year ends. The advantage in basketball is that you are still alive in March no matter what. A hot week or two can make all these losses forgettable.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/26/2014 8:24:02 AM

Well I certainly would not begin to speculate on the issues, but 3rd coach in 3 years is a possible cause.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/26/2014 8:28:46 AM

Unrelated, but quite a few tweets that their plane ride to leave the island was particularly rough.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 12/26/2014 8:33:40 AM

Jeff Hill wrote:

All of these could be taken as just frustration with personal or team play except for Treg's. That clearly points to something more serious.

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B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 9:29:48 AM

Yesterday was my first look at this season's Bobcats and one game isn't necessarily an accurate assessment tool. That said, what struck me most about yesterday's Bobcats was a collectively wanting Basketball IQ. Soooo many bad choices. A couple examples: #1 Bobcat has ball at top of key, his back is to basket, is covered by two Huskers - and tries to dribble between them. #2 Bobcat has ball down low to right of basket. Tries a short pass to teammate even closer to basket, but that teammate is blanketed by two Huskers. One intercepts and seconds later another Husker converts the turnover into an easy lay-up. And on and on...

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 9:39:36 AM

Mike Johnson wrote:

Completely agree with this. It goes even further than that. Nebraska knew that Mo and Tony were in foul trouble and repeatedly went right after them. They had a couple of their players get in foul trouble in the first half and we didn't try to exploit it at all. That and when we drive we do all we can to avoid contact as opposed to subtly initiating contact to get a call.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 9:56:15 AM

What I saw yesterday was Bean trying to do too much and some others not trying to do enough at times (let me stress at times). Bean as point guard doesn't work well. He's a shooting guard. He was looking to shoot first and not looking to run an offense. Maybe because he feels he has to carry the team.

Trouble may be that Saul doesn't have enough confidence in the other guards to let them take the point. Stevie needs to step up and gain Saul's confidence. I don't think he likes his current role, but only he can change it.

Some others were looking to pass instead of shoot when they had an opening, which wasn't often because Neb played really good D for most of the game. The one that sticks in my mind was toward the end of the 2nd half; Ndour had an open shot but tried to pass to Campbell underneath and it was stolen away. There were others; I'm not singling out Mo.

Liked what I saw from Campbell. He's suddenly become dangerous from outside as well as inside. That'll keep the opposition thinking.

This team still seems to be finding itself, and they have one more game to do it before MAC play starts.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 10:39:41 AM

Who is Nature Boy?

Hopefully the mistakes on offense can be cleaned up. I liked the overall effort.

The game was there for the taking.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 10:48:54 AM

Nature Boy is Maurice's nickname. I'm not as down on this team as many, but someone has to want to run the PG spot efficiently. Borna says it often. The PG has to run the show, not be the show. Until Saul talks a guy into embracing that role, this team's success will rest solely on jump shooting, which is a dangerous game plan.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/26/2014 11:46:09 AM

I'm against reading tweets from college students and trying to interpret them. What if we tweeted a daily stream of consciousness with all our negative thoughts about our jobs? People would swear we were on the verge of quitting all the time.

This is typical stuff. Let it rest.

Last Edited: 12/26/2014 11:48:38 AM by Jeff McKinney

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/27/2014 6:11:41 PM

The only one of these that worries me is Ndour's . He has played this year a lot like he wishes he was home and not in Ohio. IMHO, he has not been the same Mo this year that he was last year. He seems to lack the fire in the belly he had last year. My impressions certainly could be wrong, but this tweet certainly is more of a confirmation than a disconfirmation.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/27/2014 7:14:01 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Ndour might also be a bit fatigued. He was on the Senegal national team in the World Cup and played six games, averaging 21 mins per (plus all the prep). With last season's CIT run, he didn't have much of a break.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/27/2014 7:55:44 PM

I know it's tough for the young mens who are right in the middle of it. It's so intense and immediate

But wasn't this year likely to be middling, finding-ourselves early on with hope for improvement and a reasonable showing in the MAC?

We fans need to step back a bit and hope for that bit by bit improvement that a few have posted that the good coaches preach and provide.

This year? Hope for entertaining and reasonably competitive in growth is probably a fair expectation. Building a base for the future after years of turnover.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/29/2014 4:51:59 PM

A coach once told me, "play or sit".

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/29/2014 6:25:57 PM

giacomo wrote:

A coach once told me, "play or sit".

whatdya do?

never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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RE: B-ball IQ

Posted: 12/29/2014 9:40:16 PM

I played. Good advice to anyone, anywhere. Just play.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 1/8/2015 11:50:40 AM

Thought this might need bumped. I don't know anything personally, except the team does not appear to be playing as one.

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RE: Trouble in Paradise

Posted: 1/8/2015 12:00:15 PM

Yeah, but we played arguably our best half of basketball in the home game last week, which was after the Hawaii trip.

Of course DePaul keeps winning, so I guess you'd have to say both halves against them were our best.

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