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bornacatfan
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12/2 games.

Posted: 12/2/2014 7:48:28 PM

B10/ACC challenge gets underway in full scale tonite. Michigan, Illini and Indiana get big tests. Niagara faces St john's, first look at this year's version of Mt St Mary's. Belmont is off to Middle TN St and VCU sees Illinois State so we can see the new redbirds coach. should be a good nite

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/2/2014 7:55:55 PM

Ohio State @ Louisville, and we get to see how Akron handles Ark Pine Bluff

bornacatfan
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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/2/2014 8:58:52 PM

yeah I just refuse to watch that crap sorry

Minny and Indiana looking good ACC taking a whupping this evening.

NIU at Depaul follows this Niagra game which is surprisingly close at St Johns home court. WOw...just as i say that St Johns flexes their muscles and gets the running game going.

Seton Hall just slaughtering a M ST M team with no stand out and not much offense.

Illinois State and VCU playing close. VCU not getting the pressure we have seen in past years. Still it is close in downstate IL . Hated playing there and the visiting folks were parked up in the nosebleeds. Fired a letter off to the AD and the NCAA as that was the only place that egregiously violated the NCAA mandate regarding visiting team placement in 4 years of following the Cats.

Belmont comfortably over MTSU in the Bruins home court. 19 pts off of turns. They are looking pretty good as I bounce in and out. Recognize the MTSU coach but can't place him. Married life has made Vince Gill a very large man....surprising with AG at his side.

CIncy playing stony brook with the expected outcme

Cuse and Michigan (announcing at halftime Brady is gone I am sure) playing pretty close Dakich on the call making listening worthwhile. 45 48 and playing each other tough. orange on yellow is a bit disconcerting though

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/2/2014 11:33:48 PM

ACC getting drilled except for Miami catching Illinois at the end of the Las Vegas tourney and a quick turn from west coast to east coast. tO$U getting drilled early but making a game late. lots of A&M fans got tix in the YUM.

neb-Omaha out on top of KState early. Can't last I would not think. Cincy biggest margin of victory yet this year on Stony brook.

rest of the acc/Big challenge has been all Big.

Gardner Webb over came Arizona's ugly non descript Grey unis with some 70's throwbacks with a big obnoxious stripe at mid nut level that were positively hideous. Zona looks pretty good.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/2/2014 11:36:46 PM

I dunno what is worse under 2 mins. A & M going 2-3 and not challenging or UL not attacking the zone and getting the ball inside then taking a contested 3 late in the shot clock.

Shane battier on the call. Must have retired officially

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 12:08:33 AM

Battier retired almost immediately after the Finals, if not before he left the arena.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 10:32:59 AM

I actually really enjoyed Battier in the broadcast role. I'm not usually a big fan of former players jumping right into these roles (particularly in the NFL) but he was very solid.

A lot of teams are still rounding into form. I think OSU is still trying to figure out and define roles. Cincinnati, who struggled a lot in their first few games, seems to be figuring things out a bit. They have a freshman thats just going to get better and better in Gary Clark. They still need either Caupain or Shaq Thomas to really emerge as consistent scorers. By march, I think both UC and OSU will be pretty damn good.

One team I'm impressed with thus far is Miami. They're very much legit, and Rodriguez seems to be an elite PG.

I love John and the Illini, but I think the absence of Abrams is going to show up as the Big Ten schedule wears on.

To me, there's no doubt that the B1G is the elite conference this year as a whole. I'm interested to see Duke play at the Kohl Center tonight.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 11:20:50 AM

I think the acc/big 14 challenge is a complete sham. this is the worst example of tv controlling schedules and it takes away games that might otherwise be chances for mid majors to play these teams. In addition, for either league, win or lose, it artificially inflates RPI, which weighs schedule strength way too much.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 11:28:00 AM

The only mid majors that most of these teams are gonna play are the Central Michigan's or Wright State's of the world. They won't play 'good' mid majors much of the time.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 12:08:41 PM

True. Fuss' job of finding winnable games against good comp has become so much harder than it was prior to the 2010 season. now it is up to the athletic department to figure out how Gonzaga, Butler, VCU and Wichita State bumped their scheduling to include bigger teams and find winnable games that expose the program and help fandom, exposure for the program and recruiting.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 9:00:23 PM

I was at NIU/DePaul last night and came away impressed with the Blue Demons and a little optimistic about the Huskies. A few thoughts mostly centered around Northern:

-NIU dominated the boards all game and it wasn't just Threloff.
-Bowie got off to a very quick start for NIU and then disappeared a bit. Showed a good ability to attack the hoop, which NIU likes to do.
-DePaul played a full court press for the entire game and forced countless turnovers before center stripe. They'd trap the ballhander with two defenders. NIU had no answer for this all game. I think they had 21 turnovers.
-On the other side of the coin, NIU had 11 steals. They also got to the line a fair amount.
-On DePaul's end, their G Billy Garrett Jr dazzled me with his ball handling skills. He is a natural. He also didn't miss a shot (not even a FT) all game. They spread their scoring out very evenly and I think they had 28 pts off turnovers. Very good showing, they might be decent this season.
-Lastly, the Allstate Arena is a miserable venue for college basketball. I'm glad DePaul will apparently be upgrading soon.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 10:56:15 PM

Good take. I always liked the Horizon but then I got to see Depaul vs Dayton, UCLA. ND. Loyola and a number of others so it may have been the team, Ray Meyer or just being there that fr overshadowed the venue....then again ....back in the 80's we were getting in for nothing or next to it and we did not expect much for he little money we paid.

Not sure where you live but driving to the SOuth loop area is not going to be fun compared to running out the Kennedy and Public transportation as far as i can tell is going to be horrible.It will be interesting to see how Depaul ends up down there by the lake.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 11:29:40 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

For Depaul students, I'd imagine the new location will be much better. They can still take the Red Line to get there.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/3/2014 11:37:32 PM

LuckySparrow wrote:

-NIU dominated the boards all game and it wasn't just Threloff.

The Huskies hold their own on the defensive glass, but it's on offense where they shine. They're getting back 43.9% of their misses, fifth-best in the country.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 12:27:55 AM

JSF wrote:

LuckySparrow wrote:

-NIU dominated the boards all game and it wasn't just Threloff.

The Huskies hold their own on the defensive glass, but it's on offense where they shine. They're getting back 43.9% of their misses, fifth-best in the country.

They've only have 83 3PA on the season, good for 306th. So they're probably getting a ton of put back and second chance type rebs, I would guess. That was definitely the case last night - it didn't seem like their bigs were great finishers, but they could sure get a rebound. Now, they've only played 5 games, so SSS and everything, but still...something to talk about.

Also, for the record, Ohio has 84 3PA on the season so far.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 9:21:42 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

I'm confused as to why you think it's a sham? I think it's a fun event and I wish we would find a conference to pair up with to do the same thing. And sorry but there isn't a great public outcry for more games between the Big Ten and midmajors. That cry is only coming from fans of the midmajors.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 9:52:16 AM

OUVan wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Yeah I completely disagree as well. We criticize the major programs for staying home and playing weak programs, and yet we criticize them for playing each other as well? I think it's nice to see an event that forces teams to play opponents that they match up pretty evenly with. And in the end, it is just one game.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 11:09:39 AM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

OUVan wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Mostly it bothers me that the television networks are controlling scheduling and not in the sense of "can you move this game to 7 pm so we can put you on TV?" but in the "We're going to schedule these games for you" sense. Can someone, just once, not blow Disney at every turn? Yeah, no one is screaming for more mid major/big38 games, but I stand by the RPI inflation. When the two best basketball conferences get 12 test-tube games against one another each year before any other scheduling decisions are made, you have to consider the boost to conference rpi, but also individual rpi that every team gets whether they deserve it or not. remember not just teams strength of schedule but your opponents and your opponents opponents and your father's brother's sister's cousin's uncle's former roommate's strength of schedule.

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 11:36:22 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

s and your father's brother's sister's cousin's uncle's former roommate's strength of schedule.

What does that make us?

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RE: 12/2 games.

Posted: 12/4/2014 12:21:07 PM

OUVan wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Count me in this category. Before they fell apart, I wanted to see a MAC vs CAA deal like this. Now, I don't know what conference we'd matchup well with? The OVC? Ideally, the MVC or A10, but there's no chance they'd want any part of that.

While it's a pipe dream, I've been suggesting the idea of "requiring" the Power 5 schools to play two road games every season against the mid-major schools to sort of level out the RPI. In the end, it's a matter of going into their barns and beating them, when and if they'll schedule you.

Last Edited: 12/4/2014 12:23:30 PM by OU_Country

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