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Topic: Still very good

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Bobcat1998
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Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 8:00:44 AM

I will not debate that with the new recruits we would be better but even if our five spots are filled with projects or transfers not eligible this year, we are still going to be very good next year. With Ndour, Stevie, Bean and Tony we have the best foursome in the MAC, hands down. That will be tested if Brown is allowed back at Western, but no team has four players in the starting lineup that rivals that group.

Toss in Setty and if Arkley is correct, a much improved Harley and a maintainable Wadley, then we have seven men in rotation with Crute probably playing as well. You know Saul will bring in some impact makers for this year but next year, that will be the key. Who will team with Treg and Tony?

But I feel like we can win 20 games and make a MAC run.

The Optimist
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 10:44:51 AM

I agree. When JC left my biggest hope was that nobody transfers... That is a realistic outlook whereas keeping all the prized recruits of the previous regime just doesn't seem to happen in these types of situations.

With our core returning next year, I still see this as a program that is positioned to win 20 games EVERY single year moving forward.

Wing is without question our area of need with all of the loses. I like that Saul recruits 4 year guys but I was excited that JC was bringing in some JUCO wings to give us some extra experience in that department. I fully expect Crute to come in and play immediately. Even with that, we will have some minutes open for wing recruits. Beyond that, give me at least 1 PG and a BIG and I'll be happy with best available.

I've seen crazier things happen.

SBH
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 12:54:25 PM

We're also one significant injury away from being a fourth-place team in the East. That could change with a couple of hellacious JC signings in the next few weeks, but right now our depth is a real concern.

catfan28
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 2:27:43 PM

A little birdie told me there's a decent chance that Ricardo is back. He is appealing partially on the basis of the team being so shorthanded due to JC's departure. Many around the AD seem optimistic this will happen.

He's practicing with the team right now as though he'll be a part of it. Fingers crossed, we'll see!

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 2:56:55 PM

As is, we've got 8 players but I'm not sure we have 5 starters, getting Ric back would be huge.

Here's how I see the rotation, too many question marks to say definitively that we're "still very good".

1- Taylor/Willis
2- Willis/Crute
3- Setty/Harley
4- NDour/Setty
5- Campbell/Monpremier

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SBH
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 4:08:04 PM

catfan28 wrote:

How does that work? Is there precedent?

colobobcat66
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/27/2014 4:08:31 PM

If a graduating senior doesn't see this as an opportunity to play as a transfer, I don't know what is. I don't see the scoring here to make up for Kellogg. We need a lot of help to give us any kind of depth.

Casper71
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/28/2014 12:06:48 AM

Guys, assuming no injuries(???) going with 8 guys is fine. Not that many teams play more than that once january rolls around. And, I would bet Saul has a guy or two of his liking lined up. We'll be fine. As has been pointed out pretty much the same thing happened when JG went on to greener pastures.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/28/2014 7:39:36 AM

Let all 5 open spots roll and bring in 8 freshmen in 2015 for a mega class!

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 1:05:43 AM

The more I think about it with the group we have coming back, we will be good. A healthy Ndour has the potential of being POY. A focused Stevie (the opportunity of being the Bobcat with the most victories) and Campbell both have the potential of being on an all conference team. Phillips already sounds high on Harley. I think a top four seed is not completely out of the question. My concerns can we adjust to a new system that puts value on possessions. We had plenty of silly turnovers last season that cost us a couple of games.

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 2:41:18 AM

Optimism good. Ignoring chance of injuries, behavior and such and and overestimating our talent not so good.

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 8:37:30 AM

we have 2 starting PGs, 1 starting PF and 5 question marks.

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 9:28:45 AM

We also have a starting center.

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 2:49:11 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

we have 2 starting PGs, 1 starting PF and 5 question marks.

It's this that leads me to believe we'll end up somewhere in between very good and pedestrian this year. If Ric can play that would help immensely, but I'm going to remain on the skeptical side until I hear otherwise. The NCAA is not that predictable, and he played in more than 30% of the games last year. Being healthy (or just healthier) next year would be huge. We need the core of this team to stay on the floor so we don't have to rely so much on newcomers.

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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 3:01:26 PM

Haha 100%, at this point, what newcomers? Come on Saul get me two wing players, please!

perimeterpost
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RE: Still very good

Posted: 4/29/2014 4:47:41 PM

Harley and Crute are new comers, Monpremier only played 74 minutes, I'd put him in the newcomer category as well. That's 3 of 8.

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