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Pete Chouteau
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  Message Not Read  A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 9:15:53 PM 
Brad Bates was an AD at a MAC member institution for 10 years. He took the position at Boston College, where he paid a headhunter to find Jim Christian. He essentially bought a membership at match.com and got paired up with the girl that sat next to him in physics class last semester. The next time you think an unkind thought about Jim Schaus, reread this.

I fell in love with Christian over these last two years and I'm not afraid to admit it. I've believed in every word he's spoken since stepping foot in Athens. I love his coaching style and his candid manor. I want to be happy for him. I want to buy a BC hat and happily wear it. Call me naive, I can take it. I really, really want to believe him when he gives his account of the week's events. But I am having a hard time reconciling his assertion that he's not out there looking for new work and his presence on Eddie Fogler's rolodex. It's not a lie, but I find it terribly disingenuous. I would feel so much better if the story was that a former Miami AD called Ohio's coach directly and said "You killed me when I was there, I want you on my team here." That would make me so proud. That was the narrative I expected. That is the source of my disappointment.

There is no point in speculating who Schaus will hire. He will surprise us all.
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D.A.
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 9:20:16 PM 
Your next podcast is long overdue my friend.

The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats!

And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's.

"This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday
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Mark Lembright '85
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 9:30:14 PM 
Pete Chouteau wrote:
Brad Bates was an AD at a MAC member institution for 10 years. He took the position at Boston College, where he paid a headhunter to find Jim Christian. He essentially bought a membership at match.com and got paired up with the girl that sat next to him in physics class last semester. The next time you think an unkind thought about Jim Schaus, reread this.

I fell in love with Christian over these last two years and I'm not afraid to admit it. I've believed in every word he's spoken since stepping foot in Athens. I love his coaching style and his candid manor. I want to be happy for him. I want to buy a BC hat and happily wear it. Call me naive, I can take it. I really, really want to believe him when he gives his account of the week's events. But I am having a hard time reconciling his assertion that he's not out there looking for new work and his presence on Eddie Fogler's rolodex. It's not a lie, but I find it terribly disingenuous. I would feel so much better if the story was that a former Miami AD called Ohio's coach directly and said "You killed me when I was there, I want you on my team here." That would make me so proud. That was the narrative I expected. That is the source of my disappointment.

There is no point in speculating who Schaus will hire. He will surprise us all.






Great post.  I loved everything JC was doing up until 3 days ago.   Maybe LongDistanceBobcat was correct in that JC was on the up-and-up about leaving, but the one thing that I have trouble with is the position he left the b-ball program.  Groce left the program better than when he inherited it.  I don't think we can say that with JC.    But props to JC for talking to his players and communicating with them about this.
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crackerbaby00
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 10:09:46 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Pete Chouteau wrote:
Brad Bates was an AD at a MAC member institution for 10 years. He took the position at Boston College, where he paid a headhunter to find Jim Christian. He essentially bought a membership at match.com and got paired up with the girl that sat next to him in physics class last semester. The next time you think an unkind thought about Jim Schaus, reread this.

I fell in love with Christian over these last two years and I'm not afraid to admit it. I've believed in every word he's spoken since stepping foot in Athens. I love his coaching style and his candid manor. I want to be happy for him. I want to buy a BC hat and happily wear it. Call me naive, I can take it. I really, really want to believe him when he gives his account of the week's events. But I am having a hard time reconciling his assertion that he's not out there looking for new work and his presence on Eddie Fogler's rolodex. It's not a lie, but I find it terribly disingenuous. I would feel so much better if the story was that a former Miami AD called Ohio's coach directly and said "You killed me when I was there, I want you on my team here." That would make me so proud. That was the narrative I expected. That is the source of my disappointment.

There is no point in speculating who Schaus will hire. He will surprise us all.






Great post.  I loved everything JC was doing up until 3 days ago.   Maybe LongDistanceBobcat was correct in that JC was on the up-and-up about leaving, but the one thing that I have trouble with is the position he left the b-ball program.  Groce left the program better than when he inherited it.  I don't think we can say that with JC.    But props to JC for talking to his players and communicating with them about this.

I think we should wait to see what recruits/current players stick around before we decide whether JC has left us in a better spot.  If the only recruit we lose is Owens, it will hurt, but it is not program crushing.  We would still have Campbell, Mo, Momp, and Setty in the post and a lot of length on the wings.  I will wait to see who we have come the fall.

 
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OhioStunter
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 10:24:02 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:


Great post.  I loved everything JC was doing up until 3 days ago.   Maybe LongDistanceBobcat was correct in that JC was on the up-and-up about leaving, but the one thing that I have trouble with is the position he left the b-ball program.  Groce left the program better than when he inherited it.  I don't think we can say that with JC.    But props to JC for talking to his players and communicating with them about this.


When Groce left, only one senior in Kenny Belton was leaving.

Christian is leaving when some pretty good seniors -- record-holders -- are leaving.
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perimeterpost
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/3/2014 10:49:04 PM 
the bur in my saddle with this whole ordeal is how he handled, or didn't handle, Tariq Owens. He was still the head coach at Ohio when he had a conversation with Owens this week. I know that coach relationships are important in a recruit's selection process but it doesn't look as if JC made any effort to convince the kid to not back out of his LOI.

MY STATE. MY TEAM.
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Jerry86
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  Message Not Read  RE: A couple observations
   Posted: 4/4/2014 9:57:42 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
the bur in my saddle with this whole ordeal is how he handled, or didn't handle, Tariq Owens. He was still the head coach at Ohio when he had a conversation with Owens this week. I know that coach relationships are important in a recruit's selection process but it doesn't look as if JC made any effort to convince the kid to not back out of his LOI.


And how do you know the conversation they had wasn't about convincing him to honor the LOI? Not sure why some people assume the worst ... but it's been made public and very clear that JC communicated with all team members PRIOR to talking to BC.

Tariq Owens has had some bumps along the way ... why did he mysteriously leave FL in mid-season this past year?  As has been stated more than once here it may be Owens was just looking to jump ship and his AAU coach may be the one behind this.
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