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Topic: BC = TCU Redux

Topic: BC = TCU Redux

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OhioCatFan
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BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 10:22:49 AM

Just took a quick scan of topics on one of the BC fan boards. Virtually everything on this board was about football -- transfers, recruits, spring practice, next year's opponents, etc. There was very little about the JC basketball drama. It looks to me like BC is very much the TCU of the East Coast. That is, it's a parochial school in a conference dominated by state schools and has a fan base that's much more interested in football than basketball. Does JC really want that all over again? I thought that was what he was escaping from. I know that he's an East Coast guy, but I didn't think he was as "geographically dependent" as TOS. (Yes, that's strange syntax, but I'm in a strange mode at the moment.)

Last Edited: 4/3/2014 10:26:09 AM by OhioCatFan

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 10:26:26 AM

It's not the same at all.

They are focused on football only because they've been awful in basketball for a few years. They have a decent hoops tradition. The Big 12 is a football conference, Texas is a football state. The ACC and East Coast are hotbeds for basketball. Oh, and I don't think JC was making a guaranteed seven figure salary at TCU, so there's that.

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 10:54:23 AM

The AD who brought JC to TCU left to become the president of the Carolina Panthers after JC's first year. He and the next AD did not see eye to eye. Going into a situation he had not signed on for, JC asked for a raise and extension to be competitive in the Big 12. When denied, JC knew the handwriting was on the wall. Schaus called and JC left. At BC, he is being recruited by the AD and promised support. That and a much greater salary, being in a metropolitan area, and closer to his family makes BC much different from TCU

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 12:16:21 PM

Like I said elsewhere, BC is 22-19 in the NCAA tourney and went 7 times from 2000-2010 or so. Way different places to me.

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 12:21:35 PM

Just made a case in a different post about why BC is good job.

I agree...this is TOTALLY different than TCU.

TCU = no tradition

BC = strong tradition. Maybe no national titles or Final Fours...but were consistently on the national scene for most of the 80's, 90's & 2000s until Donahue destroyed things.

Not sure JC can resurrect it....but it's a solid job in a great league

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 2:01:47 PM

I see this more like the situation Groce went to.

A program that once had great basketball success, but was on a downswing.

A program that lives in a very competitive conference with powerhouse teams, so the expectation wasn't realistically to be a conference champion, but to be in the upper tier of the conference and maybe make some noise in the tournament.

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RE: BC = TCU Redux

Posted: 4/3/2014 2:06:51 PM

OhioStunter wrote:

I see this more like the situation Groce went to.

Illinois is a better job but I agree that BC is quite a bit different than TCU. Of course, if Bates gets canned in a couple of years it might not be.

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