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Topic: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

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bobcatsquared
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MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 10:47:03 AM

There will be a MAC-Sun Belt Challenge starting next season, per Jeff Goodman.

12 MAC teams matched up with 12 SBC teams. They will each play two games each season - one home and one on the road.

shabamon
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 11:10:39 AM

Cool!

CatsUp
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 11:12:19 AM

Wonder if this will more or less eliminate the quasi series with Marshall, at least for the foreseeable future. I would personally prefer playing someone else in �the challenge� simply for the variety.

FJC31
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 11:34:57 AM

Love the concept, but was hoping Missouri Valley would have been the opposing conference. Exciting overall. Guessing teams are paired based on previous season records?

Jeff McKinney
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 11:41:16 AM

Nice concept. Looking forward to it.

Victory
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/7/2022 12:18:16 PM

FJC31 wrote:

Love the concept, but was hoping Missouri Valley would have been the opposing conference. Exciting overall. Guessing teams are paired based on previous season records?

I suggested this over email to, Doug Elgin, the commissioner of the MVC, and Jerry Ippoliti, the commissioner of the MAC, back in the late 90's. This was back when both conferences expected a fairly realistic chance at at-large bids but it wasn't an every year thing. Ippoliti never responded to me. Elgin was very, very interested in the idea. You guys might know that I can be quite the nerd when I want to be. I has used my real name in the email and had posted analysis of the RPI and other basketball related stuff online. Elgin either somehow knew who I was or had done a web search on me. Then in an email exchange he started asking how the RPI is flawed, then if each conference going .500 in the challenge would raise or lower the collective RPI of the two conferences, and then he started asking me if it is so flawed if you could take advantage of the flaws.

You know what happened. The MAC's computer averages remained pretty high and on close to on par with the very best conferences outside the P6 until pretty recently. But hyper-parity was usually the culprit preventing any single team from being able to claim an at-large bid. The MVC sort of went on an at-large binge in the early 2000s while sometimes getting 3 teams. Then around maybe 2005 it came out that the MVC had internally been collectively planning non-conference scheduling in a way that would make it the very easiest for the teams to get wins that would raise the collective RPI of the MVC. I could not make this story up if I tried.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: MAC v. Sun Belt challenge

Posted: 11/14/2022 8:53:47 AM

They have 14 and we only have 12, so I guess they'll have 10 teams play 2 and 4 only play 1 each year?

This will be fun to root extra hard for the MAC teams for a couple weeks each year.

Andrew Ruck
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