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JSF
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TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 2:16:07 PM

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9096499/minnesota-gophers-dismiss-tubby-smith-day-ouster-report-says

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 2:29:46 PM

He was just signed to a 3-year extension in July, had 21 wins this year (8 in the toughest conference in America) and gets fired?

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 2:36:20 PM

Both Tubby & Howland will be counting their money while sitting on the beach in the Caymans.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 3:22:10 PM

This shocks me. Granted I don't have my finger on the pulse of Gopher nation but seemed like he had them headed in the right direction.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 4:40:11 PM

Unless they have someone distinctly better already in place, this makes little sense.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 5:02:08 PM

Yeah, I am legitimately shocked by this.

B.S. Journalism, 2012.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 5:15:07 PM

I also was shocked too. The article mentioned though that the Minnesota AD is in his second year, came from VCU, and everyone supposed wanted to bring in Shaka Smart or at the very least put his own stamp on the program... Should be interesting to see if he can do it. I'll be surprised if he's not a candidate for the USC and UCLA jobs.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 5:21:41 PM

HeHateMiami wrote:

If I'm UCLA, I'm offering John Groce twice as much as he's making now...just to see if he'd bite. Tubby would probably be a good fit for USC. Haven't heard anything from them other than OJ Mayo.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 5:54:51 PM

Tyler Charles wrote:

HeHateMiami wrote:

If I'm UCLA, I'm offering John Groce twice as much as he's making now...just to see if he'd bite. Tubby would probably be a good fit for USC. Haven't heard anything from them other than OJ Mayo.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 6:48:31 PM

Looks like having unrealistic expectations and the belief that its easy to find coaches who will turn you into Duke is not just for messageboard posters.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 7:43:02 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

Looks like having unrealistic expectations and the belief that its easy to find coaches who will turn you into Duke is not just for messageboard posters.

Hahaha. Good work.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/25/2013 11:14:31 PM

In 6 seasons at Minnesota, Coach Smith was 46-62 in Big 10 play. No surprise that he was fired.

As for going 21-8 overall, no big deal. Minnesota, like most Big 10 teams, lards its non-conf schedule with home games. Each season they might play a couple non-conf games on neutral courts and then only a couple true road games. Heck, even Northwestern's non-conf record this season looked pretty good. You could make a case that Big 10 teams have to be really bad not to win 20.

This season one Big 10 team - Minnesota or Illinois? - started out 15-1 and played sub .500 in the conference. Doubt if that team ventured much from its home court in non-conf play.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 9:06:28 AM

His firing should scare John Groce. At Ohio, making the NCAA tourney was more or less enough. At Illinois, he had better produce in the conference and advance deep into the tourney or it will be his head on the block in 4-5 years. Competing against Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan, and Michigan State, it will be far easier said than done.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 10:08:38 AM

100%Cat wrote:

I'm not so sure about that. In his first year, he took a team and exceeded expectations. Almost knocked off the ACC champion and made the Sweet Sixteen again, which is no small feat. He's earned a lot of trust this year and just wait until he can get his guys in there.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 12:09:38 PM

Tyler Charles wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

Ilinios lost to Miami Sunday so they didn't make the Sweert 16 this year.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 12:15:08 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

Tyler Charles wrote:

Ilinios lost to Miami Sunday so they didn't make the Sweert 16 this year.

He said "almost". Took me a couple reads as well.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 1:01:12 PM

OUVan wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

Tyler Charles wrote:

Ilinios lost to Miami Sunday so they didn't make the Sweert 16 this year.

He said "almost". Took me a couple reads as well.

My bad !

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 1:34:02 PM

If Groce makes 6M in 5 years and gets fired and never gets a head coaching job again, sing no sad songs for him. Sing this one instead: "Your castles may tumble, that's fate after all, life's really funny that way. No use to grumble, just smile as they fall, weren't you king for a day"?

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 4:15:09 PM

Tyler Charles wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

Uh huh. Illinois and Minnesota both: started hot and faded after the weak schedule went bye-bye, finished 8-10 in Big Ten play, both had 13 overall losses, both were highly ranked and then faded, and both finished a win away from the Sweet 16. Groce has a Sweet 16 in his history as a coach...all Tubby Smith has is a national title.

Finish 5th-6th in the conference consistently, play a non conference schedule of mostly nobodies, and not do much in March for a few years and we will see some serious heat on the coach's seat at Illinois.

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/26/2013 6:42:51 PM

I'm tempted to go on a Minnesota message board under an assumed name and post:

"The recruiting ties are already in place! Halbert! King! Annen! He'll get all the big names Tubby was never able out of the Big Moose Bear Elk Lake Woebgone region!"

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/27/2013 11:58:28 AM

Finish 5th-6th in the conference consistently, play a non conference schedule of mostly nobodies, and not do much in March for a few years and we will see some serious heat on the coach's seat at Illinois.

JG took an Illinois team not expected to do anything, and gets them to the second round of the tournament, and while they certainly played better before they hit the conference schedule, they did have wins against Indiana and O.S.U. I think if you ask the Illini faithful last year whether they would take twenty plus wins, an NCAA tournament win, and wins against O.S.U. and Indiana, this year, they would have been more than happy.

TOS had some pretty decent records at O.U. And where is he now?

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/28/2013 9:57:47 AM

Mike Johnson wrote:

Thank you, Mike, for being the one poster here who has a grasp on reality.

Are the rest of you that unaware of the expectations--like them or not--of such jobs?

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/28/2013 1:51:03 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Mike Johnson wrote:

Thank you, Mike, for being the one poster here who has a grasp on reality.

Are the rest of you that unaware of the expectations--like them or not--of such jobs?

The biggest surprise in the firing is that the AD gave him a big three-year contract EXTENSION in July when his conference record was 38-52 (.422). Did the AD really think they'd be much more than a .500 team in the conference this year based on that track record and with OSU, MSU, Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin as extremely tough games?

Why give the extension and be on the hook for a $2.5M buyout?

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RE: TOS to Minnesota

Posted: 3/28/2013 4:29:23 PM

redrustler wrote:

He may have exceeded expectations this year, but he had senior talent with Richardson and Paul. He loses that now. Will he take a step foward as fans will expect...or backwards from here?

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