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Topic: Note to Jim Christian

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berniebobcat
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Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 3:02:12 PM

This team needs to be coached on rebounding. This is a fundamental skill and has more to do with positioning than size. It is frustrating to watch opponents get repeated offensive rebounds and put-backs when you know that they are preventable.

LongDistancebobcat
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 4:03:11 PM

It's a good thing you posted this. He probably wouldn't have noticed any such problem.

Bobcat110
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 4:11:09 PM

so...313th is bad?

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 4:45:57 PM

Baltic and Kellogg had a couple nice interior rebounds, but yeah, it's bad. Consistency is the key and we really don't have any consistency.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 4:50:51 PM

I'm not sure the number of rebounds per game means much. It's a variable of how many shots each team takes and what their respective shooting percentage is. I would say that rebound margin is a better indicator of rebounding prowess.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 4:53:25 PM

Alan is correct.

We're actually not the worst rebounding team in the conference! Kent State is a DR% of 61.4%, worse than our 62.1%.

Last Edited: 2/9/2013 4:59:19 PM by JSF

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 5:04:19 PM

LongDistancebobcat wrote:

It's a good thing you posted this. He probably wouldn't have noticed any such problem.

"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorence on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon..."

LongDistancebobcat
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 5:06:03 PM

Ironic. It's "ignorance".

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 5:20:29 PM

Sorry, cut and pasted from a Seinfeld site guess you can't trust anything in the internet these days

Last Edited: 2/9/2013 5:21:25 PM by cc-cat

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 5:37:25 PM

He seems to have accepted the situation and is concentrating on the team's strengths. From yesterday's Post:

Still, Ohio is second in the conference with 9.5 steals per game.

Christian admitted that the Bobcats have to keep that mark constant in order to keep their opponents on their heels and away from second-chance opportunities, as their rebound margin is the second-worst in the MAC.

“We’re not the greatest rebounding team of the world — we all know it — so we have to try and find ways to get extra possessions and get easy baskets,” he said.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 5:57:37 PM

This is why your energetic, speeded up defense is key: leads to steals and spread-floor situations in which our rebounding disadvantge is minimized (because leads to fewer traditional-rebounding-position situations).

Hoop is not rocket science.

Last Edited: 2/9/2013 5:58:02 PM by Monroe Slavin

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 6:28:46 PM

cc cat wrote:

LongDistancebobcat wrote:

It's a good thing you posted this. He probably wouldn't have noticed any such problem.

Onion headline:

Ohio hoops coach claims rebounding unimportant, cites Globetrotters winning percentage as proof

And coachspeak be damned, it really does help to be really big and really strong on the glass.

Last Edited: 2/9/2013 6:31:28 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

LongDistancebobcat
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 6:36:21 PM

You're going to have to wait until next year for big and tough.

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 6:43:03 PM

That's why Christian gets high marks from me. He's winning with a John Groce line-up when it's nothing like the roster he had at Kent State or the roster he'll construct shortly.. He hasn't tried to jam this round piece into the square hole that is his system. Rightfully so, given what Ohio had coming back.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 8:03:44 PM

berniebobcat wrote:

You could probably come down at 3:00 on Monday and work with them. I'm sure JC would love your expertise.

Panda
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 9:19:12 PM

Hey we are winning so rebounding is not as important. I say that while I yelled for rebounding and blockouts during the game.

Just keep the defense strong and make the transitional game strong. Victories will continue.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/9/2013 9:58:15 PM

LOTS of big'uns coming in next year...

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/10/2013 1:53:54 PM

I'm really not excited about going from Groce's style to Christian's.

LongDistancebobcat
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/10/2013 7:45:56 PM

Yeah, I can see why you're concerned. He has the best record of any coach EVER in the MAC. As Herm Edwards said, "You play to win the game". Without DJ would you expect anything to be similar?

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/10/2013 7:51:04 PM

LongDistancebobcat wrote:

Yeah, I can see why you're concerned. He has the best record of any coach EVER in the MAC. As Herm Edwards said, "You play to win the game". Without DJ would you expect anything to be similar?

To be fair I think he meant he does not particularly enjoy watching that style of basketball. Definitely did not hint at his style being unsuccessful.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/10/2013 8:11:20 PM

Yeah, it's mostly a preference thing. But I also have the feeling Groce's system is closer to where the sport is headed and gives us a better chance to make an impact nationally. We had excellent forwards before and went nowhere because the guard play wasn't up to snuff. I fear that will happen again.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/11/2013 2:49:30 PM

I think the rebounding problems could be tied to Coach Christian's unfortunate tendency to keep his head down too much.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/11/2013 3:50:53 PM

Christian coached two MAC POTYs at Kent...Al Fisher and DeAndre Haynes, both point guards. DJ could be his third. I'm not sure we're going to see guard play diminish greatly.

LongDistancebobcat
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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/11/2013 5:06:21 PM

I would think someone who started in the Big 12 for two seasons should be just fine. He works hard against DJ every day and Omni Smith is doing a great job in helping him put in extra time.

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RE: Note to Jim Christian

Posted: 2/11/2013 5:49:14 PM

LongDistancebobcat wrote:

I would think someone who started in the Big 12 for two seasons should be just fine. He works hard against DJ every day and Omni Smith is doing a great job in helping him put in extra time.

I was wondering when someone would step out there and give him the spot.

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